South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

June 29, 2009 -

Rather surprisingly, South Korea's intelligence service is operating an online game designed to raise public awareness of infiltrators from the North.

The AFP reports that the National Intelligence Service will run the game through July 21st. The timing concides with the 59th anniversary of the outbreak of the Korean War. A variety of prizes are being offered, including laptops, camers and video game consoles. From the AFP:

The first stage invites users to identify suspicious characters in a crowded park. One figure is shown holding a placard reading "Love Kim Il-Sung," the North's founding president who died in 1994.

The game urges players to look out for people who leave Internet cafes quickly after posting "impure" articles, or protesters who spread groundless rumours or incite violence at anti-US and anti-government rallies.

Other suspects include those who photograph sensitive military and industrial facilities, people who cover their mouth with their hand when they talk, and those who bring sticks to street demonstrations.

The game, however, has provoked ridicule among some Korean bloggers:

I never met a spy before as far as I know, but I don't think they will be waving 'I love Kim Il-Sung' signs or carrying walkie-talkies and pro-North Korean documents and books in public parks.


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Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

I think it's a funny idea for a game.  I like it.

 

Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

"Suspicion breeds confidence"?

The whole idea sounds ridiculous, btw, more like "spot the looney"...

ZAR.

 

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

In South Korea, they are not very Pro American but they do know North Korea and its reputation to cross the borders take women and men and put them into slave camps. Again the kidnapping in Japan and South Korea has made it a very sensitive subject as shown in links even video games are altered in these countries because of North Korea’s actions.

Again Liberal Americans cannot understand what it is like to live in fear and under the threat of another nation.

Cuban Teens born in the US want to talk to Cuba yet their parents and grandparents who came here in make shift rafts who left because of the Tyranny of Cuba Communist Government.

Or Israel who has been under attack since the day they got a small section or land and every Arab nation attacked and that small nation won and took its entire land back but its been under attack since its founding and we preach do nothing just sit there and be attacked.

Americans are Apathetic, they live in a bubble that when it bursts the majority will not be able to survive. Just like the Romans in the Western Roman Empire, cut off your thumbs so you don’t have to serve and that the Government will always be here to protect me.

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

Wow! There's actually someone who believes in FOX News propaganda!

BTW: You forgot to mention Vietnam and Russia. Most certainly "evil" countries in your point of view. Whereas Egypt, Myanmar and Saudi Arabia are keepers of the human rights and best friends of democracy.

ZAR

 

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

Guys, don't let what DrKefka has said previously colour everything he says.

If you actually read the links that he provided you will see that he isn't just making shit up. Also, he didn't refer to Egypt and the various other countries you mentioned. They have no relevance to the topic that he was discussing. 

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

The New York Times Article has nothing to do with Egypt what are you talking about?

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/04/international/asia/04deserter.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

That is a story about a Solider who deserted and Japanese Family who was kidnapped and brought to North Korea!

Or are you just saying that not to click the links? Nothing you have said in your response even applies to what I have said.

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

No this is Neo does,

Fact: A crime was committed.

Neo: The crime was committed because of Liberal American are causing all the crimes in the world. It was Barack Obama's fault that a crime was committed. If it wasnt for all these Liberal American's and Barack Obama the crime would never occur.

or in this case...

Fact: North Korea kidnapped people in the 1970s and 1980s.

Neo: The North Koreans are kidnapping and rapping people. Asian Hates America. I know what is going on in Asian better than everyone on here. They are still kidnapping people. Japanese are nothing but rapist. China is evil. These Liberal Americans are letting Asian win.

He has a speck of truth in what he says but the rest of it utterly stupid and ridiculous.

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

So you mean those two girls working for Al Gore's New Agency who were kidnapped in China and brought to North Korea are all lies made up by Al Gore?

Since is another New York Times, your parties favorite read.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/us/10hostages.html

Surely you say it all stopped in the 80s of course. Right. The Japanese and various other Asian Nations are just being jumpy its all lies right?

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

Did you even read the article?

there is no mentioning of the reports being kidnapped. The report says they were detained.

The two women were working on a story on the China-North Korea border when they were detained in mid-March. Long before that, Ms. Ling, 32, had shown a proclivity for life in front of the camera — her older sister, Lisa Ling, is a successful television reporter — and had been an on-air correspondent for Current since 2005.

They have been detained in mid-March at the North Korean-China border. It unknown why they were detained, except that North Korea reports they tried to enter the country illegally. You dont know that they there were kidnapped or not. All you can only speculate, which is all you ever do.

Speaking as someone who travels to Asian approximately every 3 months... you dont know shit.

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

Al Gore claims the women were in China, North Korea claims they are spies and invaded North Korea. With North Korea's track record you could say they were aducted.

Also, so then you don't believe Al Gore when he says they were aducted?  So you'll sit at the Church of Al Gore and believe his political views but not that his own people were abducted?

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

I m not going to speculate. But here is more information if you want to do more speculating. Lisa Ling, the sister Laura Ling, snuck into North Korea posing a Medical team for an article for the national geographic.

http://ngccommunity.nationalgeographic.com/ngcblogs/explorer/2007/02/ins...

When did Al Gore say they were kidnapped? Where is your proof?

I have not seen a response from Al Gore since this happened. He has been incredibly silent on the whole topic.

 

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

the North Koreans still and have actively gone into Japan to kidnap women and men and use them as they seen fit. In fact a Liberal Solider who hated himself and his country defected to North Korea and let’s just say the North Koreans didn’t treat him to well but he ended up marrying a Japanese wife who was kidnapped from Japan and forced the man and the woman to marry.

Where did I hear this the evil vile Fox News you say? Oh that evil Fauz news always lying, no? How bout the Liberal New York Times !

 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/04/international/asia/04deserter.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

http://www.parapundit.com/archives/002440.html

 

http://www.time.com/time/asia/2005/jenkins/story.html

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Robert_Jenkins

 

Again, Liberal Americans have no clue or idea whats going on down there.

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

Dude, I don't think ANY Asian countries are very Pro American at all, outside of maybe Japan, but they're basically America's lapdogs now, and even they still aren't very Pro-American.

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

South Korea and even rape loving Japan have one weak spot. Kidnapping. One thing that has been censored heavily in Japanese is the act of kidnapping. In fact, Final Fantasy VI and Final Fantasy XII has scenes removed in Japan that involve the act of kidnapping and beating.

What does this have to do with North Korea? Everything since North Koreans are known to travel to Japan and kidnap Japanese women and sometimes men for labor use.

Even two of Al Gore’s Journalists were recently kidnapped from a trip in North Korea. Without a doubt his side most likely will bow down and apologize but its very important for North Koreas and the Japanese to be suspicious.

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

Is this the NK GOVERNMENT doing it or just NK PEOPLE doing it? There's a significant difference here.

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

 

What the fuck are you talking about?  Ok, you're right about North Korea kidnapping people from the South and Japan.  But how the hell did you get the idea that Japanese kidnap people, you racist bastard.

What deleted scene in Final Fantasy Vi and XII??  I don't remember they censored that in Japan or anywhere else.

 

Care to back that up.

 

mikedo2007

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

Japan censors kidnapping heavily, if you read my post I never talk about the Japanese Kidnapping people. I did however note and have noted elsewhere the Japanese fondness for a Rape like Culture in which they still have not apologized for the millions they have raped nor the Chinese or the women they have aducted off of cruise boats during World War II from the United States, Canada and other Western Nations. Look up Comfort Women. We still blame, the German people and Gov who at least apologized for their actions in World War II, Japan still has not.

Now to answer your question on the Final Fantasy Part.

 

repost: I would be happy to prove it to you. As you may know, in Final Fantasy VI (III) when Locke first met Celes she is beaten and then chained up. In the Japanese Version, that scene was heavily censored. She ends up just falling to the ground and is not beaten or chained.

In fact, when Final Fantasy VI Advance was ported over, we in fact got the censored scene they just didn't feel like changing it. Anyone who has played both Final Fantasy VI (III) SNES/PSX can also confirm in the FFVI Advance Version you do see a different scene again this is the Japanese Censored scene they have always seen.

For those who have not seen the scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjEEeWfxFAU thats the orginal scene.

Final Fantasy XII (12) for example was also censored during a kidnapping scene. The United States Version shows the added scene but the Japanese had a censored scene.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157937

 

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

mikedo2007

OK, for the Final Fantasy 6 scene, you gave me the American version with the torture. I need to see teh Japanese version. But for Final Fantasy 12, I did remember reading something out of Wikipedia about the American version:

In term of general changes, the localization team introduced widescreen 16:9 ratio support and reinserted scenes that were left out of the Japanese version to preserve  an "all age" rating from CERO.

I think you were on to something when you mention that.  Now I remember that some scene were removed from the Japanese version, I'm going to assume the missing scene in the Japanese version were the kidnapped scene.  I didn't know the kidnapping in the game was too sensitive to the Japanese.  Here a bunch of dumb ironic censoring and banning in Japan:

-Saints Row 2 Japanese verison: they censored some part of the game(I don't know what), but it still got a Z rating from CERO. Why would the JPN localization team remove those if it's going to get a Z rating from CERO, they could have left those deleted scene there?

-Fallout 3, changing Fatman to Nuka Launcher I can understand why they did that. But removing the part where Mr. Burton and the press the button to blow up a area with a nuke was just stupid and unnessary.  Curse you, Bethesda, you should have listen to the Japanese fan and use your brain . I believe GP had a article on that

-Left 4 Dead: Although the game was uncut, they had to make some changes on the front cover design of the game.  I don't know why, some of the people on Kotaku think that has got to do with how the Yakuza cut off their finger for every fuck up a member done.

-Resistance: fall of man: censored, blood removed.  I don't know why, they could handle that.

-Uncharted: Drake's Fortune: Censored, there's not much blood.  Any Japanese gamers can handle that blood in the game, it's not like Nathan Drake grab a chainsaw and mow the guy down like he's Marcus Fenix from Gears of War.

-Ninja Gaiden Sigma: Here's the ironic part, the Xbox version of Ninja Gaiden and Ninja Gaiden Black had beheading and gore in the Japanese version.  But however, Ninja Gaiden Sigma (PS3) had the beheading and Gore removed in the Japanese version (along with the PAL version).  Why Tecmo do that is beyond me, that game could sell well with a Z Rating. 

 

note: I'm typing from my workplace, therefore I can't paste my signature down here.   

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

Wikipedia also notes the FFVI scene check the last note in wiki about that subject. Basically its simple, that scene what you saw imagine Celes and the Soliders just talking no punching or chaining she just falls down after talking.

However other sites noting this

"Some of the censorship that appeared in the western Super Nintendo release has been carried over to this port, for example Celes is no longer chained and beaten during her interrogation in South Figaro and various instances of sprite nudity have been reworked but, generally, this is a brilliant conversion of the original Japanese release."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/final-fantasy-vi-advance-review

http://www.siliconera.com/2007/02/08/final-fantasy-vi-advance-the-censored-directors-cut-edition/

 

Also the North Koreans still and have actively gone into Japan to kidnap women and men and use them as they seen fit. In fact a Liberal Solider who hated himself and his country defected to North Korea and let’s just say the North Koreans didn’t treat him to well but he ended up marrying a Japanese wife who was kidnapped from Japan and forced the man and the woman to marry.

Where did I hear this the evil vile Fox News you say? Oh that evil Fauz news always lying, no? How bout the Liberal New York Times !

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/04/international/asia/04deserter.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

 

 

 

http://www.parapundit.com/archives/002440.html

 

 

 

http://www.time.com/time/asia/2005/jenkins/story.html

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Robert_Jenkins

 

Again, Liberal Americans have no clue or idea whats going on down there.

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

Again, Liberal Americans have no clue or idea whats going on down there.

and you do?

I doubt a majority of Americans know whats going on in Asia. Of course I m speaking as someone that travels to Asian approximately every 3 months.

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

And here is further proof that conservatives are nothing more that ignorant retarded dumbass rednecks that inbreed with their aunty-cousin-sister to produce more inbred children.

Provide some evidence. All I m reading lately is the "THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING"

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

I am from Chicago the Militant Liberal Mecca of the Democratic Party.

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

That doesn't mean you don't inbreed. ;)

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

That's because, according to Right Wing "Leadership" (Limbaugh, Hannity, and the always nutty Bachmann), the sky really is falling.. Don't you know?

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

I just thought that was a bird shitting on my head.

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Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

Proof please. And no, your delusions don't count as proof.

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Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

Well, there is always this one.  It was a fairly major story when North Korea actually admitted to kidnapping people, not sure how you missed it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/oct/16/northkorea.japan

Also this has some more information on the issue:

http://www.internationalrelations.house.gov/archives/109/shi042706.pdf

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

Those were about North Korea doing the Kidnapping.

How about proof that the Japanese were kidnapping?

And proof on these "deleted scenes" in Final Fantasy?

 

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

He never said Japan was into kidnapping; he said the exact opposite.  His point is that for all the social hinkiness that we view their culture as having, they have no tolerance for the topic of kidnapping.

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

I would be happy to prove it to you. As you may know, in Final Fantasy VI (III) when Locke first met Celes she is beaten and then chained up. In the Japanese Version, that scene was heavily censored. She ends up just falling to the ground and is not beaten or chained.

In fact, when Final Fantasy VI Advance was ported over, we in fact got the censored scene they just didn't feel like changing it. Anyone who has played both Final Fantasy VI (III) SNES/PSX can also confirm in the FFVI Advance Version you do see a different scene again this is the Japanese Censored scene they have always seen.

For those who have not seen the scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjEEeWfxFAU thats the orginal scene.

Final Fantasy XII (12) for example was also censored during a kidnapping scene. The United States Version shows the added scene but the Japanese had a censored scene.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157937

But let me guess, I am lying and those scenes were removed by George W Bush and or distorted by Fox News? ^_~

Re: South Korea's C.I.A. Offers Spot the Spy Game

Sorry but that is not valid proof. All you have is a clip that says it wasnt in the japanese version, it doesnt prove anything.

As for the kidnapping scene in Final Fantasy 12, the article states that it was removed for political reason. Further research would tell you Megumi Yokota, North Korean Kidnapping story came to a forefront in April 2006. So having a kidnapping scene in a movie, tv show, or video game would be like showing plane crashing into building after 9/11.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megumi_Yokota

As for kidnapping in japanese media, it is no different that any other media. Before the wide spread news of North Korean kidnappings it was a plot device. I saw many many japanese tv shows dealing with kidnapping all the time.

At least you did research this time, failed at your research but you tried.

 
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