In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to Receive Adults Only Rating

July 7, 2009 -

Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars has been tagged with a "Z" rating (adults only) for the Japanese market, reports Siliconera:

All of the Grand Theft Auto games have been rated CERO Z so this isn’t really a shocker. However, Chinatown Wars will be the first Nintendo DS game with the rating and the second CERO Z game on a Nintendo platform. Killer 7 from Capcom is the other CERO Z rated game on Nintendo hardware.

CERO is the Japanese equivalent of the ESRB.

Via: Kotaku


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Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

Ok how the hell did that child molesting DS game not get a Z rating but GTA did? Was it made before the ratings were designed?

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Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

because unlike what you heard, GTA actually has sex in it rather than just innuendo.

incidentally, I wonder how the sitcom Full House got past the FCC, as it has far too much sexual innuendo for a family-friendly show

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Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

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Here's the intresting part.  GTA: Chinatown Wars is not published by Capcom, who are the publisher for a lot of GTA games in Japan.  It's publish by a different company, look at the article on Kotaku, it'll tell you the name (I forgot the name, and I can't access Kotaku from my workplace).  Why Capcom didn't publish this game??

-A lot of people on Kotaku argued that Chinatown Wars may not do as well as in the US and Capcom does not want to run that risk and ruin their reputation.

-Capcom could be busy with a lot of other thing and didn't have time to publish the game.

 

Whatever the reason, I hope this game could do OK in Japan.

Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

Given the really poor success of CTW, the first option is likely.

Given that they are still working massively on Monster Hunter Tri, the second one is likely too.

We may never know, but it doesn't really matter what Capcom's reasons were. GTA doesn't do that well in Japan anyway.

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Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

I hope they allow it soon. I find it quite sad that they allow adults to have games in every other country that has an adult rating but not in the US because the whole "think of the children" thing.

Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

They already allow it. The ESRB will not stop a game from being made with an AO rating, however most retailers will not carry it (the same way most retailers don't carry porn or NC-17 movies).  Most developers wouldn't touch a product with an AO rating because it is almost a guranteed flop due to the limited advertising that can be done on the product, the limited places it can be purchased and the limited audience that can actually buy the product.

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Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

It stands for 18 and up. its the ESRB's AO and PEGI's 18.

Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

Yes, I figured as much. But AO stands for Adults Only, so I assume Z is short for something too.

Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

the CERO ratings aren't initials for anything, they are simply A (everyone, like ESRB's 'E'), B (12+), C (15+), D (17+, like ESRB's 'M', but completely restricted, no ID required), and Z (18+, like ESRB's 'AO' rating, but government-regulated)

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Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

So what does the Z stand for?

Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

ZOMG TEH VIOLENZE!!!

Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

i wish the ESRB would make a new rating that says this game is for adults but its not porn. Then games would not have to be censored anymore to get released as M. Do Z games in Japan have to censored???

Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

No. Because Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft are hypocrits that way. They won't allow AO games in the US but do allow Z rated games in Japan.

But that is also due to Japan's overall acceptance of Adult themed entertainment in all forms. The US as a whole still need to realize that adults like reading comics and playing games just as much as they love watching movies and reading books.

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Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

A Z rating? I guess I'm just unfamiliar with the Japanese rating system, but I think the U.S. should have a Z rating instead of AO. That whole "Adults Only" moniker carries too much of a stigma here, in that when most people think "Adults Only" the first thing that pops to mind is porn. As a result, we don't get very many AO games.

Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

"That whole "Adults Only" moniker carries too much of a stigma here, in that when most people think "Adults Only" the first thing that pops to mind is porn."

Except that the vast majority of "Adults Only" games really are porn games -- try going to the ESRB homepage and searching the AO listings.  So even if they started calling the rating, say, "Rupert", it'd still be a category largely populated by porn games.

Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

In practicality, though, it is only one year of an age difference. The reason why most sexual games get the AO rating is because the 18+ age limit falls in line with the state laws that require 18+ verification to view porn sites.

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Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

Yes, and then there are other games such as Manhunt 2, which got an AO rating for violence and had to be toned down just so the company could sell it on consoles. I guess the real problem for AO is the console manufacturers' flat policy of not releasing any AO titles regardless of why they got the rating in the first place, but I fully believe that the porn stigma is the reason that policy exists in the first place.

Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

It's not necessarilly just the console manufacturers that restrict AO games.  I don't know of a single retail store that will sell an AO game.  What good is making an AO game if nobody will sell it?

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Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

Yeah, that's the same reason the MPAA changed X to NC-17, since X drew too many comparisons with the porn industry's exaggerated "XXX" designation.

Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

Only the second ever Z-rated Nintendo game? That can't be right. What about all those Resident Evil titles on Gamecube and Wii? There was also that Resident Evil 1 port for the DS, was that not rated Z? How about the Nintendo-published Eternal Darkness?

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Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

The letter based rating system has only been in use since March 2006,

Most the Resident Evil games were rated for ages 15+ or 17+, only Code Verionica which was on Gamecube got an 18+ but that was before the Z rating.

Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

Z is for ages 18 and up so nothing particularly shocking there

Re: In Japan, GTA Chinatown Wars is First DS Game to ...

Well it was made for adults so im not surprised.

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Wonderkarpever wonder if there's an appeals process for AO?05/28/2015 - 6:55pm
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Matthew Wilson@AE that is why I said it seems more moral panic to me.05/28/2015 - 3:51pm
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Andrew EisenKarp - It didn't show penetration or nudity.05/28/2015 - 3:50pm
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Matthew Wilsonwhat I mean by worse in this case its not more gory/violent than others.05/28/2015 - 3:48pm
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Matthew WilsonHatred is a top down shooter though, and isnt any worse than other top down shooters?05/28/2015 - 3:45pm
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