U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days to Explain Why He Shouldn't Also Be Disbarred From Federal Court

July 7, 2009 -

Jack Thompson may have wowed the gamer crowd at SGC09 over the weekend, but Chief Judge Federico Moreno of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida appears to be decidedly less smitten with the disbarred attorney's act.

In a court order issued on June 26th, Moreno directed Thompson to explain why his October, 2008 disbarment by the Florida Bar should not also extend to Thompson's ability to argue before the federal bench.

"Wait," you're saying to yourself, "I thought Jack Thompson was already disbarred?"

That's correct. But Thompson has maintained for some time that the disbarment order of the Florida Supreme Court applies only to the state court system. Thompson has even taken to including verbiage to that effect in the headings of his e-mails, like the one below:

John B. Thompson, Juris Doctor
Once and Future Attorney
(address removed by GP)
Only Admitted to Practice in U.S. District Court, Southern District of Florida, Not Admitted in Florida

Despite Thompson's claim, Judge Moreno's order seems to indicate that Thompson's ability to function as a lawyer in federal court is, at best, on life support.

For his part, Thompson reacted with typical bluster to the Judge's order. For example, a July 2nd e-mail to Judge Moreno (cc'd to GamePolitics) demands copies of any communications concerning Thompson between the Southern District Court and the Florida Bar. In the e-mail Thompson seems to mock Judge Moreno and makes reference to being placed on a "terrorists watch list":

I make this request/demand because of your prior improper placement of me on a terrorists watch list in retaliation for my sending you a letter about judicial misconduct on your watch. Even the Deputy US Marshals thought that was absurd.  They laugh now every time I show up at the courthouse asking, “Are you still a dangerous terrorist, Mr. Thompson?”  Funny stuff.

Now you have entered a show cause order demanding that I explain why you should not disbar me from the federal court, and in doing so you have told me to spend at least $30,000 to make my case in producing documents all of which the Florida Supreme Court has and [can] give you free of charge...

 

If I get sent to Gitmo as a “terrorist,” then please send the stuff there.  I’ll be facing Tallahassee in prayer several times a day as required.

If you are curious as to the "terrorist watch list" reference, as GamePolitics reported last year, Judge Moreno dispatched a pair of U.S. Marshals to meet with Thompson afer the embattled attorney wrote to the judge, complaining:

We find yesterday that enemy combatants at Guantanamo are to get more due process from federal judges than what I am to have. I guess my "mistake" was not killing 3000 people to make my point...

Shortly thereafter Thompson complained that he was stopped from entering the courthouse in Miami by security personnel and was only permitted to enter the building with an escort.

Thompson, whose petition to review his disbarment was denied by the United States Supreme Court earlier this year, has a separate case relating to the disbarment ongoing in the Southern District.

DOCUMENT DUMP: GamePolitics has obtained a copy of Judge Moreno's one-page order via public records request. Grab a copy here.


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Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

It's nice to see someone so self-righteous, hypocritical, arrogant, abrasive and deceptive get his comeuppance.  It's even better the 2nd time around.

But seriously, from his standardized bluster-filled reaction to this, I just don't get how Thompson can take this almost without any weight or seriousness.  Is he that... crazy?  (Serious question!)

Getting disbarred the first time was just bad enough by anyone's standards.  It put that final nail on his career.  It removes his professional credentials from his conservative Christian anti-video game crusade.

Then there were the Utah and Louisiana debacles.  Not only did his proposals fail, but he even burned bridges with what can be considered strong, influential allies in his agenda.  I mean, if he really cared for video games being regulated for being corrupting media influences, blaming his allies and calling names and harrassment are not the way to go.

Now THIS.

Each time Jack Bruce does his thing, the chances of his success drop more and more.  If he cares so much for protecting the youth and country from the moral scourge of video games, why is he so willing to destroy whatever power, means, or principles he has in pushing his crusade forward?

Only logical answer, via cold Vulcan logic: he doesn't actually care.

But then, what is his goal?  Does he want fame, even in the form of infamy?  Does he want to be remembered as a moral crusader?  He can't achieve the former because he's now a laughingstock in everyone's eyes, even among people of his opinions.  He can't achieve the latter because we all can see how intentionally poor a human being he is, whether in threatening and harrassing others or putting on a facade of dignity and decency.  His losing even his ability to practice in federal courts derails both.

In other words, no matter how you look at him, he just doesn't make sense.

I apologize for the long response, but part of the entertainment value of Jack Bruce Thompson is the mystery of his insanity.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

But seriously, from his standardized bluster-filled reaction to this, I just don't get how Thompson can take this almost without any weight or seriousness.  Is he that... crazy?  (Serious question!)

He isn't serious because he doesn't actually expect to get his license back. In fact, I estimate he'd go into shock if such was to happen.

The thing about Jack is that his psyche is fragile. That's why he always claims to win and never admits any wrongdoing, even when it's obviouss, and just might be the strategic thing to do.

For example, at his disbarment trial, he was given a chance to repent, in exchange for potential leniency. Were Jack to have done so, the jig would've been up. His whole "crusade" would've ended right then and there. His mind can't handle that, mainly because he's been doing his thing for waaaaay too long.

As for Jack's motivation/goal, my best theory is that he was simply born an asshole.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Yay, more drama to come!

 

Saying that Jack Thompson is impotent is an insult to impotent men everywhere. They've got a whole assortment of drugs that can cure their condition; Jack, however...

Saying that Jack Thompson is impotent is an insult to impotent men everywhere. They've got a whole assortment of drugs that can cure their condition; Jack, however...

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

All's I can say is pull the plug on him.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Just in case anyone's wondering whether Jack will in fact lose his admission to the Southern District of Florida, wonder no more. He will. That he will is a foregone conclusion. Admission to and good standing in a state bar is a prerequisite for admission to practice before the federal bar. Put differently, you can't hold admission to the federal bar if you, like Jack-O, don't hold admission to a state bar. But, as a matter of constitutional right to "due process," before he can be stripped of his admission to the federal bar because he no longer holds admission to a state bar, Ol' Jack-O must be given notice and an opportunity to defend against the stripping. And that's all the Southern District is doing: giving Jack-O his day in court to which he is entitled. And once he's had his day in court and the requirements of due process have been satisfied, they'll pull his admission. Sure as God made lil' green apples, that's exactly what they'll do. And there ain't nothing he can do - other than getting himself readmitted to the Florida Bar or some other state bar - to change the certainty of that outcome.   

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Ah, so this actually has nothing to do with Thompson's behavior? This would have happened even if he hadn't spammed them with his rants?

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Precisely. To make the more clear-cut example, if he had voluntarily and completely relinquished his state bar licensure for reasons unrelated to misconduct (e.g., advanced age or illness), his ability to maintain federal bar admission would still fall into question automatically. You can't have the latter without the former. Indeed, it don't take too much but the former in order to get the latter in the first place. About the only thing a federal court requires before it admits an attorney is a Certificate of Good Standing from a state bar. 

And, therefore, all that need be established at his OSC Hearing in order to justify the revocation of his admission to the Southern District is the fact that he has been permanently and beyond further appeal ousted from the Florida Bar and holds no other state bar admission. Once those facts become clear, the chips just fall into place on their own weight.

Which is why it's so insane that Thompson is actually forcing the Southern District to take the actions required to revoke his admission. Any sane attorney would have simply turned in their ticket a long time ago. There's really nothing against which to defend.

But, interestingly enough, "no A, therefore automatically no B" could be just the minimal outcome. I don't think anything precludes the Southern District from upping the ante on his ass and taking his misconduct into consideration. For example, they could look at the findings of the Florida Supreme Court with respect to Thompson's misconduct and his fitness for admission to practice and conclude that those findings are in fact well-sounded and, therefore, order that Thompson never again be admitted to practice before the Southern District - even if he manages the unlikely possibility of gaining admission to some other state bar.        

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

OK, so when Thompson's disbarred by the Southern District of Florida, the question now becomes, "Is he effectively disbarred in the rest of the Federal Courts even if he manages the unlikely possiblity of gaining a law license in another state?"

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Technically, no. The ability of the Southern District to enter an order revoking admission to practice is limited to admissions to practice before the Southern District. It is left to each individual federal court to determine who they admit to practice before them. Assuming Thompson achieves the impossible and is admitted to some other State, and assuming he's in good standing with that State, then he could apply for and most likely would be granted admission to any federal court other than the Southern District.

There are some minor technicalities which could prove troublesome but aren't necessarily insurmountable. For example, admission of an attorney to practice before a federal court usually requires another attorney already admitted before that court to make a motion for the other attorney's admission. I'd imagine that the line of attorneys who are willing to associate themselves with Jack Thompson by moving a federal court for his admission isn't a very long line. But I wouldn't imagine that he'd never find another attorney willing to sponsor his admission. A troublesome requirement but not an insurmountable one.

As a perhaps interesting aside, an old federal courthouse one-liner to those seeking admission is "I hope no one rises in opposition to the motion to admit you." While technically someone could oppose the motion - after all, it is a motion - no one ever does. It's kinda like the part of the wedding were the officiator says, "If anyone knows a reason why these two should not be joined in matrinomy, blah, blah, blah." Of course, no one ever actually gets up and starts stating reasons.      

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Ha! Go get 'em Jacky!

Reality/////////////////////////////////////Fantasy. Seems like a pretty thick line to me...

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Yet still John Bruce is making a difference.  At present he can practice law on the federal level, in 30 days that just may be different.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

So he was disbarred from the Florida Bar because of his 60 Minutes interview.

What's his excuse for being disbarred from the Federal Bar going to be?

Because of his OTHER 60 Minutes interview?  He was interviewed twice after all.

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Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

The gaping hole in that story is the fact that the lawyers from the firm of Tew Cardenas who also filed a complaint against Thompson have absolutely no relevant interest in videogames or Jack-O's anti-videogame efforts in the Alabama case (the subjects of his appearances on 60 Minutes). Tew Cardenas had no connection whatsoever to videogames in relation to Thompson. They represent Howard Stern. Why would they file a complaint against him because he appeared on 60 Minutes to discuss videogame-related issues? They could give a rat's ass about a videogame.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Seriously, would that REALLY stop him from claiming it?

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Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

No, that only makes more likely that he will claim it. Don't all of his stories have some sort of gaping hole?

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Hehehe.

See, there's the Jack we all know and hate. Seething with rage, immature, compulsively lying, and completely incompetent.

This makes me the happiest I've been all month. Thank you Jack, you little fuckstick you. :)

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

What happens when he's disbarred from federal court?

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Then he'll have everyone right where he wants them.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

It's all part of the plan...

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Is that when he's going to push the little red button and nuke everybody?

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Figuratively speaking...

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

I meant literally. It's about the only way Jack could ever actually damage anything other than his own career/"crusade".

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

So wait we may have the pleasure of seeing Jack disbarred twice?

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Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

It's like we get a Christmas after Christmas. Ole Jerk Thompson sure is generous, isn't he?

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Technically we always get another Christmas after Christmas, we just have to wait a year it.

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Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Thats the thing about being a lawyer Jack... it's all about the ti-MING... dammit thats tim-ing... timing. Yes timing.

(props to Steve Martin for the "timing" joke.)

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

*sighs, motions over* Jack come here, I want to give you some friendly advice. Look if you want people to help you and take you're side then it helps not to act like a total douchebag. You want to get them to empathize with you. And that's kinda hard to do when you're making an ass of yourself.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

My money is on Thompson getting disbarred from federal too but I'll go a step further and wager he fails to respond properly to the show cause order.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

I would have to agree wholeheartedly. He is incapable of submitting anything properly. Seriously, How hard is it to follow a simple order to get anotehr attorney to sign off on all submitted documents?

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Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Some of what Thompson is being asked to provide the Court may be easier said than done. For example, I'm not sure that the transcripts from all the Hearings before Judge Tunis would ever have been given pro forma to him. Of course, he can always pay the reporting service for copies of the transcripts, but that ain't exactly cheap. The good news is that GamePolitics has already bought and paid for a large part of those transcripts. Maybe they'll help Jack-O out and hook him up with a free copy?

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

*Hits the buzzer* EEEEEEHHHHHHHH!!! That would be no sir.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

And why not?

 

I for one would be happy to supply the rope in which he hangs himself.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

But why give it to Thompson? I say we send it to the Judge as a friend of the court or whatever it's called. (That and I have an image of Jackass with a 55 gallon drum of white-out if we send him the copy.)

 

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Likely pretty tough for JT.  I mean, would you co-sign his stuff?

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

There can't be too many cases on record where an attorney with a lifetime disbarment from a state bar forces a federal court to take the steps needed for revocation of admission. You'd think a sane person would just go ahead and spare themeselves and the court the expense and effort by voluntarily surrendering their admission. But I did say "a sane person." 

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

And so it begins again, and the subhuman piece of garbage they call Jack Thompson is so predictible, we can all expect the following:

- Jack will claim imminent victory.

- The Judge and everyone around him will be deemed part of the Take-Two effort to have their "most successful critic" silenced.

- Jack will also indicate how this is all just part of the massive homosexual conspiracy with him. 

- The obligatory "I will dismantle/destroy/own the Florida Bar"

- He will be sure to remind everyone that he is a "good" Christian and quote scripture across various releases.

- Fax machines and email inboxes will be stuffed full of rambling, vitrolic letters, press releases, and court docs.

- Jack will ignore every rule of conduct set forth by the judge.  Expect him to be required to have a grownup sign all his court filings...which of course he will not do.

 

 

Too bad for Jack GamePolitics, JAABlog, Justice Building Blog and others no longer welcome him- thereby limiting his exposure.  Perhaps there is a Star Trek convention that will let him host a panel.  A sure way to victory!

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

5 and 6 seems to fit jackie to a T not quite sure where 7 and 8 fits, of course that may just be because I'm a pagan and I don't babble, that sounds more like a southern baptist thing.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

if Jack quotes scripture, I'll quote Matthew 5:40-41 to tell him if he were a good christian, he has to pay the Florida Bar another $43,675.35

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Oh of course, he says his mistake wasn't killing 3000 people or says he'll make the courthouse "figuratively" explode, and he should get off scott free, but if anyone dares disagree with him they need to be shipped right off to Gitmo.

 

Thompson is a terrorist, plain and simple.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

"I guess my "mistake" was not killing 3000 people to make my point..." reads as "Maybe I should kill people to make my point." I'm surprised they didn't bust his door down, arrest him, and ransack his room looking for evidence.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

As far as I'm concerned, Thompson is a part of a different kind of terrorist movement: the "Cultrue War", which is waged by Christian extremists as a means to dismantle society, reason, science, and basic rights and install a Christian theocratic government.

 

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

A movement to turn the culture clock all the way back to the 1940s and keep it there, believing it will soemhow turn our world into Leave it to Beaver.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Every time I watch the Star Trek episode, "Return of the Archons" now, I can't help but think the society of the planet that episode is set on would be exactly what Thompson would want if he could rule the world.

In fact, Landru looks an AWFUL lot like JT come to think of it.  Just watch the episode again.  They've got the same hairstyle! (Please, someone do a photoshop of this.  I think this might actually work!)

Then again, it might not be so bad.  We would have Festival every night!

 

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

"A movement to turn the culture clock all the way back to the 1490s and keep it there, believing it will somehow turn our world into Spanish Inquisition era."

FIXED FOR GREAT JUSTICE (and for being the true).

 

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Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

I already have a backup plan if we only go back as far as the Salem Witch Trials…

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

If we ever degrade to that point, I'm just going to hang myself.

J/K. Going Viking on everybody is my plan.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Guess i get to play the mad mage/alchemist then :)

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Well if you don't hear from me after that starts i'll be tied to a burning post for telling someone like Jacko to do something physically impossible.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Re: U.S. District Court Judge Gives Jack Thompson 30 Days ...

Yep thats our jackie.  Push until something gives. Sadly though the thing is often gives is ones patience.  Yes he has sent porn to judges as well as questionable pictures (to include a Kangaroo in Judges robes and a blown up building with a reference) . Terrorist?  Hard to say.  Possibly insane and a threat to himself and others.... well yes that is possible.  

So this is his much better plan to be reinstated after being glossed over by the Supreme court?

 
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