German Gamers Petition Their Govt. to Stop Censoring Violent Games
German Gamers Petition Their Govt. to Stop Censoring Violent Games
July 9, 2009
With an apparent official crackdown against violent games underway in Germany, gamers have petitioned their government to back off.
German GamePolitics reader "Christian" explains:
In Germany citizens are able to post petitions in an official internet forum of the Bundestag. These petitions are "accepted" when 50000 German citizens electronically sign the petition. When petitions are accepted, the German government has to review, respect and discuss the petition's postulation.
At long last a petition against videogame bans in Germany is online. One can sign the petition here. To watch the development of the petition one can look here.
German gamer Matthias Dittmayer adds:
Yesterday 300 [German gamers] had signed [the petition]. Today it’s over 9000... With more than 50000 at August the 28th our parliament have to deal with the topic. We have no public decision concerning the national level. Just a right that they have to listen to the demand.
As I post this, more than 25,000 German gamers have signed the petition.
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Posted 11/22/09 at 09:45am
ZippyDSMlee: JD:I think doc phill is still sout about the break up with his wife he dose not fill holes as much as make them bigger these day
ZippyDSMlee: JD:I think doc phill is still sout about the break up with his wife he dose not fill holes as much as make them bigger these day
Posted 11/22/09 at 12:06am
JDKJ: You should get Phil McCraken to help you spackle those banisters.
JDKJ: You should get Phil McCraken to help you spackle those banisters.
Posted 11/21/09 at 11:57pm
ZippyDSMlee: Oh in the pirate hunter article I need my song ieda heckled DS,JD,Beemon sic im !!!
ZippyDSMlee: Oh in the pirate hunter article I need my song ieda heckled DS,JD,Beemon sic im !!!
Posted 11/21/09 at 11:56pm
ZippyDSMlee: JD:no I am tried from prepping the banisters for painting , worked on them from 12 to 4 and 6 to 8...after I got back from the store...got up early got ready...blah...been up all day..I need a nap...
ZippyDSMlee: JD:no I am tried from prepping the banisters for painting , worked on them from 12 to 4 and 6 to 8...after I got back from the store...got up early got ready...blah...been up all day..I need a nap...
Posted 11/21/09 at 11:42pm
JDKJ: No. You gonna stay up late tonight soldering?
JDKJ: No. You gonna stay up late tonight soldering?
Posted 11/21/09 at 11:41pm
ZippyDSMlee: JDKJ:Don't you mean Mctite?
ZippyDSMlee: JDKJ:Don't you mean Mctite?
Posted 11/21/09 at 11:33pm
JDKJ: @Zip: Neil, Bob, and Lik McTaint. The McTaint brothers. LOL!!!
JDKJ: @Zip: Neil, Bob, and Lik McTaint. The McTaint brothers. LOL!!!
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:44pm
Flamespeak: I still think military personell, killing other military personell, on a military complex should be handled by military courts.
Flamespeak: I still think military personell, killing other military personell, on a military complex should be handled by military courts.
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:43pm
Flamespeak: I could see this a mixture of the two charges rather than just one or the other.
Flamespeak: I could see this a mixture of the two charges rather than just one or the other.
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:43pm
Flamespeak: I think this was mainly a person who snapped, but evidence is showing he definitely had strong inlinations to islamic-extremism.
Flamespeak: I think this was mainly a person who snapped, but evidence is showing he definitely had strong inlinations to islamic-extremism.
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:41pm
Flamespeak: People are trying to claim that Hasan's actions were not terrorism. I don't jump on the 'terror train' like others, however
Flamespeak: People are trying to claim that Hasan's actions were not terrorism. I don't jump on the 'terror train' like others, however
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:38pm
mentor07825: Britain certainly does deserve it! And the French! God damn it, it was a hand ball!!!
mentor07825: Britain certainly does deserve it! And the French! God damn it, it was a hand ball!!!
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:34pm
ZippyDSMlee: mentor07825:Well Brittan dose deserve it....
ZippyDSMlee: mentor07825:Well Brittan dose deserve it....
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:33pm
ZippyDSMlee: Alyric:I don;t hasliburton having to pay back billoins... don;t you love it when the rich roll over the goverment without a care?
ZippyDSMlee: Alyric:I don;t hasliburton having to pay back billoins... don;t you love it when the rich roll over the goverment without a care?
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:32pm
mentor07825: I say we nuke the whales, for the benefit of both mankind and the environment.
mentor07825: I say we nuke the whales, for the benefit of both mankind and the environment.
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:28pm
Austin_Lewis: I say we try Al Gore too. I always said he was in on the racket.
Austin_Lewis: I say we try Al Gore too. I always said he was in on the racket.
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:16pm
Alyric: The leaked information proves these organizations knowingly defrauded governments (i.e., taxpayers) out of billions of dollars. Yet there will probably never be a trial.
Alyric: The leaked information proves these organizations knowingly defrauded governments (i.e., taxpayers) out of billions of dollars. Yet there will probably never be a trial.
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:15pm
Flamespeak: working on other things makes me angry. I might have had a jet pack by now. :p
Flamespeak: working on other things makes me angry. I might have had a jet pack by now. :p
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:14pm
Flamespeak: Just thinking of all the time and manpower wasted to try and make things emit less CO2 emmision that could have been spent
Flamespeak: Just thinking of all the time and manpower wasted to try and make things emit less CO2 emmision that could have been spent
Posted 11/21/09 at 09:07pm
Alyric: @Zip: FYI, the construction of solar panels puts out more pollution than any form of energy production. To say nothing of the toxic components of the panels that cannot be recycled.
Alyric: @Zip: FYI, the construction of solar panels puts out more pollution than any form of energy production. To say nothing of the toxic components of the panels that cannot be recycled.
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wow, half way there.
Go German Gamers, we're rooting for you.
We need that petition stuff here in Brazil...
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I would not be surprised if they get the 50,000 signatures by the end of the week.
Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra.
So according to the Encyclopedia Dramatica, because I saw it and thought of it, I'm a "Weeaboo".
Dagnabbit!
It's ove.....
Dagnabbit!
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I tend to stay away from them as I always have an urge to go to their "offended" page (for those of you who don't know, it's the page they tell you to go to if you are offended by their content, it's basically nothing but truly sick images, such as self-mutilation and dead bodies (including animals).
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Today it’s over 9000...
ITS OVER 9000
Sorry could not resist
Hope German gamers dont have to deal with censorship
Dang, someone beat me to the post!
Vegeta, what does the scouter say about their petition level?"
"It's over 9000!"
And somewhere in the world a german DBZ fan is saying "Stupid americans its over 800." which it actually true in very country but the us. This has been a usless knowleged!
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Coincidence, or meme? YOU decide!
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Saying that Jack Thompson is impotent is an insult to impotent men everywhere. They've got a whole assortment of drugs that can cure their condition; Jack, however...
That's pretty cool. I wonder if something like that would work in the states?
You may want to know that there was also a petition against internet censorship (of course only against child pornography...).
Over 134.000 people signed it in less than 6 weeks (the 50.000 mark was reached after about 4 days). They all demanded do delete this stuff instead of block it.
Guess what happend.
First thing: Many politicians basically said that all those people support child pornography, demand free access to it and so on.
Second thing: They completely ignored the petition (at least the 2 largest Partys, but for them it doesn't matter what the other partys says.
And now we have a law to block child pornography via DNS manipilation. You can bypass this in just a few seconds.
Take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NNG5I6DBm0
This petition will also be completely useless.
Sadly, as much as I pray to the highest powers that this petition sends a message, I agree with you.
I can just visualize it being slide into a "Suggestion box" which is just a disguised paper shredder or blast furnace.
Well that pathetic that they won't even listen to there people.
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Sadly, we don't even petition our government to stop censoring our games. The petition is about them not doing even more censorship.
Well it might not be the most effective effort but at least it sends a clear message to every German politician who still has the opinion that games are just products designed for kids missing the fact that this kind of game is designed to be played by fully socialized adults. At least to me nearly 30.000 signatures within just 3 days (200 alone while I am typing this) is a clear message that gamers just had about enough of this bullshit.
Wait, an online petition?? *Sighs* Way to fight the "lazy" stereotype..... Online petitions completely worthless, and are a even bigger waste when printed.
From what I've gathered, once the petition hits the 50,000 mark the government are bound by their own law to look at it. So not entirely a waste.
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Good for them. Bout time Germans stood up against fascism...
"You know what I wish? I wish all the scum of the Earth had one throat and I had my hands about it."
"Yesterday 300 [German gamers] had signed [the petition]. Today it’s over 9000..."
Surely that's him just taking the mickey, with a sly wink and a nudge?
Too good to be true otherwise.
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That's awesome news, right there. Germans are regaining their rights, one meme at a time.
I applaud German gamers for standing up to their government oppressive crackdown however it is largely their own fault that it has got to this point. They had thier chance to protest, to vote out their elected officials who supported this YEARS ago. They stayed silent and look what happened. Had they risen up and thrown out the oppressive tyrants in public office, it would not have gotten to this point. This is why we must find ANY kind of government regulation of the video game industry tooth and nail because it is one step closer to eroding our civil liberties.
The chancellor whose government established the current system died years before Pong. Please elaborate how I was supposed to vote someone out of office a decade before my parents were born. What am I supposed to do? Complain to my grandparents that they voted for Adenauer?
Over 35000 signatures have been put on the petition so far
Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights
I know, unoriginal, but WHAT NINE-THOUSAND!?
Oh, hey, I've already posted, but I've gotta repost ask: Can I sign? I mean, I don't live in Germany, but is it legal/acceptable for me to sign anyway?
@Saxy
In our consitution is written that "everyone" has the right, So also aliens and minors can sign it. Here a "manual":
- http://www.destructoid.com/once-again-germany-needs-the-worlds-help-139470.phtml
But you have to sign with your real name and adress. "Fake"-entries are useless and will be erased.
Is it just me, or has it just cleared 65000? I'm looking at the graph and don't know any German, so you tell me.