Chinese Govt. Ends Electric Shock Therapy for Game Addicts
Chinese Govt. Ends Electric Shock Therapy for Game Addicts
July 14, 2009
The Chinese government has ordered a controversial video game addiction clinic to stop subjecting alleged teenage game addicts to electric shock treatments.
China Daily reports that the Ministry of Health issued the directive yesterday to the clinic in Linyi, Shandong province:
More than 3,000 young people were tricked or forced into in to the four-month long course. To enroll their children, parents or guardians had to sign a contract acknowledging that they would be given electric shocks of up to 200 milliamperes. The treatment cost 6,000 yuan ($878) per month...
Shocks were given if patients broke any of the center’s 86 rules, which included prohibitions on eating chocolate, locking the bathroom door, taking pills before a meal, and sitting in Dr. Yang's chair without permission.
Details of the treatment first became public when former patients wrote about their experiences online...
Kong Lingzhong, who edits a Chinese Internet addiction-themed portal commented on the clinic's methods:
We have no clue whether this freaky treatment has side-effects.
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Posted 11/07/09 at 04:27pm
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
ZippyDSMlee: man I got alot of junk and dup files too >< god I need orginization...and no not the knee capping media mafia kind :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:26pm
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
ZippyDSMlee: replaced :P
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:23pm
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
ZippyDSMlee: beemoh:hey its like 60GB porn,400GB anime 100GB games and crap I have took from all my DVDs, I hate waiting on dvds to install stuff..... oh and 40GB of my porn was in the found.000 folder...mostly corrupted.... least I got names of wut needs to be repa
Posted 11/07/09 at 04:18pm
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
beemoh: @Zip: ...and you'd have to spend all that time re-downloading that porn?
Posted 11/07/09 at 03:34pm
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
ZippyDSMlee: ggrrrrr......vista lost one of my hard drives and I had a heart attack thinking I lost 1TB of data....
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:58am
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
JDKJ: Which could be explained by both (a) and (b).
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:56am
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Austin_Lewis: JDKJ: You forgot C) the fact that, for some reason, every time he did something that would suggest he shouldn't be in the military, let alone an officer, higher ups ignored it or let it slide.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:51am
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
JDKJ: Part of the problem is, I believe, that (a) the Army had a lot of time and money already invested in him and which they were unwilling to simply write-off and (b) an increasing need for the type of skills and services he provided.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:48am
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
JDKJ: And that even if he was begging not to get cut loose, he was apparently a real good candidate for being cut loose, anyway.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:11am
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
JDKJ: @chada: And while Kennedy once noted that there's usually more than enough blame for everyone to get a slice, the possibility that the Army was unwilling to cut loose someone who was asking to get cut loose could be a factor.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:07am
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
ZippyDSMlee: *noms on his feet*..nomnomnomnom*droooll* ...wuuutttttt uuu looking at?
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:05am
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
JDKJ: I'm no psychologist, but I'm told that crazy people have a tendency to do crazy things.
Posted 11/07/09 at 10:03am
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
chadachada321: Whoops, was out of the convo for awhile. I do wonder what type of ammo he used etc, but the real issue is WHY he did it, not HOW
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:56am
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
JDKJ: But if it turns out that they actually did, they'll have Hell to pay.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:45am
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
JDKJ: And I'd tend to rule out the possibilty of FN Herstal supplying restricted ammunition to someone merely because they're ordering it from a military base.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:37am
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
JDKJ: I know you don't leave your gated community and get around much in dark alleys, so you may be surprised to learn that there's this thing called "the black market" where, if you've got enough money, ain't too much of anything which can't be bought.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:36am
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
Austin_Lewis: Or, maybe he or someone else at the base ordered the SS190 from FN Herstal.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:32am
Austin_Lewis: the hands of private owners. They run about 300 dollars minimum for a box of 50, and boxes of AP 5.7 are extremely scarce, mainly residing in the hands of Class III stores or individuals who for one reason or another got a demo box of it.
Austin_Lewis: the hands of private owners. They run about 300 dollars minimum for a box of 50, and boxes of AP 5.7 are extremely scarce, mainly residing in the hands of Class III stores or individuals who for one reason or another got a demo box of it.
Posted 11/07/09 at 09:30am
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Austin_Lewis: There are other firearms that fire the 5.7. However, I too would like to know where he got the ammo and what kind was used. Maybe Hasan, planning not to live through this, went out and bought one the boxes of SS190 that are floating around in
Posted 11/07/09 at 08:44am
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
JDKJ: And it isn't yet clear what type of ammunition Hasan used. It's strange that he purchased a gun but didn't purchase ammunition for it at the same place and time. Especially because the calibre required is peculiar to the actual gun.
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There's something wrong with using electroshock therapy for game addiction.
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Gah. I wish I could remember the name of the place,.. but there is a 'school for troubled teens' just outside philly that still uses electro-shock. NPR did a piece about it a few months back. Very under the radar school though so I'm having trouble finding it again.
I'm reminded of those kidnappings I heard about few years ago. Parents would actually hire people to kidnap their kids and send them to this messed up prision/reform school/boot camp thing, where they're kept untill properly 'reformed'. Some worringly twisted stuff there, =/
I'm always amazed at how this stuff gets ignored by the local media...
The first I started hearing about such things it was from friends in other countries telling me about reports on human rights abuses in the US. Then again, I was usually the one telling them about problems in their own country, so it seems to be a pretty universal media problem...
Every country has problems, if you dig deep enough, but what the media wants are ratings, so they peddle things that are sensational. U.S. citizen rights being violated? Not a good headline. Michael Jackson? Russia killing babies? Totally great.
So you're saying China abducting and electro-shocking children for sitting in someones chair ISN'T something they'd consider sensational?
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I was under the impression that the first post was talking about similar practices in the U.S., which wouldn't make good headlines.
Anyway, it's unknown if this program was government sponsored; lots of bullshit companies in China operate under the guise of being government sponsors while paying the right officials hush money ... so I don't know if it's the government or just some assholes that are doing this.
Maybe China is trying to tap into these killers brains and control them with the Chinese developed NATAL like system.
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Maybe they're trying to make this for real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ubYTIazskQ
...okay, i know china isn't always the best looking country when it comes to it's various practices...but someone was actually able to get away with this for any amount of time?
Probaly because the patients were "shocked" into not tellgin what was going on at the clinic.
http://www.magicinkgaming.com/
It isn't uncommon for electroshock therapy to be used in the U.S. with a patient's consent for treatment of severe depression that doesn't respond to medication, among other things.
Considering it was used as punishment in this case, this was pretty much torture.
Locking the bathroom door? Really? Is that because if you try to kill yourself, they can't get inside? I mean, really.... Eating chocolate I could see, also taking pills before dinner, or sitting in the doctor's chair. But why can't they lock their bathroom door?
It honestly sounds like a camp to make "bad" children behave, as in, become little drones for mommy and daddy.
No, it's Communist China. They'll become little drones for the State.
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Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.
Don't they have similar things in the U.S. as well?
It was probably because if they had the door locked they could "eat chocolate" or "take pills before dinner", or do any other number of shockable things in there without getting caught
We have no Clue whether this freaky treatment has side-effects.
I think this kind of treatment has one nasty side effect: PTSD (Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder)
I wonder if they're going to compare this to the allegation of torture in Guantanamo bay Camp.
Back in the day, they used electroshock therapy to "cure" homosexuality. That sure as hell didn't work then...and history repeats itself.
"We have no clue whether this freaky treatment has side-effects."
From the website of The Mayo Clinic:
Definition:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/electroconvulsive-therapy/MY00129
Why it's done:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/electroconvulsive-therapy/MY00129/DSECTION=why%2Dits%2Ddone
RISKS:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/electroconvulsive-therapy/MY00129/DSECTION=risks
And more. Just follow their links.
And that's just from ONE site. I guess he doesn't know how to Google "side effects of electroshock therapy".
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Maybe it was blocked by the Chinese government's firewall and he doesn't know how to get around that.
"That's not ironic. That's justice."
who thinks that they only ended this program to free up some room to electrocute some of those rioting uighurs that has been going on for a month?
Considering the riots and violence is being effectively controlled in that region now... I doubt it.
Yeah. If Tiennaman Square (not sure if I spelled that right) taught China anything, it's that a tank is a very effective riot control measure.
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Wow, you obviously don't know anything about what's going on right now.
*ZAP* *ZAP* That is what you get for sitting in Dr. Yang's chair!!!
I have this image in my head of the ad that was in one of the RoboCop movies of the electrocution burglar alarms for cars.
You'd think they'd come up with something like that for the chair. Or perhaps they're afraid of the irony.
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For the benefit of those who haven't seen RoboCop!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRNVxHPJ0hM
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Wait, isn't it a GOOD thing that the Chinese government is stopping this? So why are so many people still posting negative things about this?
Because it's news to us that they were using this stuff in the first place. It's like if a friend walked up to you and said they've decided to stop beating their spouse and you had no idea about the domestic abuse in the first place.
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I can see where you're coming from, but there's nothing that suggests the facility was government sponsored. I mean, if it was, I could understand. But you have to understand that many of these facilities CLAIM to be government sponsored or somesuch but are not - and this one doesn't even have that claim, I believe.
If the American government shut down a company for bad business practice, the government should rightly be praised for it. To me, this is no different.
This topic needs a screenshot from InFamous. Here in America, we don't use electro shock on our kids, we just get the cops to taze them.
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