Chinese Govt. Ends Electric Shock Therapy for Game Addicts
Chinese Govt. Ends Electric Shock Therapy for Game Addicts
July 14, 2009
The Chinese government has ordered a controversial video game addiction clinic to stop subjecting alleged teenage game addicts to electric shock treatments.
China Daily reports that the Ministry of Health issued the directive yesterday to the clinic in Linyi, Shandong province:
More than 3,000 young people were tricked or forced into in to the four-month long course. To enroll their children, parents or guardians had to sign a contract acknowledging that they would be given electric shocks of up to 200 milliamperes. The treatment cost 6,000 yuan ($878) per month...
Shocks were given if patients broke any of the center’s 86 rules, which included prohibitions on eating chocolate, locking the bathroom door, taking pills before a meal, and sitting in Dr. Yang's chair without permission.
Details of the treatment first became public when former patients wrote about their experiences online...
Kong Lingzhong, who edits a Chinese Internet addiction-themed portal commented on the clinic's methods:
We have no clue whether this freaky treatment has side-effects.
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Posted 02/09/10 at 12:33pm
Valdearg: Meaning in 29 states, private sector discrimination against gays is perfectly legal.. Sickening.
Valdearg: Meaning in 29 states, private sector discrimination against gays is perfectly legal.. Sickening.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:33pm
Valdearg: 19 states have no protections, and another 10 only have protections for public sector jobs.
Valdearg: 19 states have no protections, and another 10 only have protections for public sector jobs.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:32pm
Andrew Eisen: Well, most businesses have equal rights policies in place and just because there's no specific state level protection for it, doesn't make discrimination right or legal. Still, no argument against adding such protections.
Andrew Eisen: Well, most businesses have equal rights policies in place and just because there's no specific state level protection for it, doesn't make discrimination right or legal. Still, no argument against adding such protections.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:28pm
Valdearg: More information. Apparently, it's worse than I actually thought.
Valdearg: More information. Apparently, it's worse than I actually thought.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:28pm
Valdearg: Check the link. Apparently, its more like 20 states that have no protections.
Valdearg: Check the link. Apparently, its more like 20 states that have no protections.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:26pm
Andrew Eisen: In the US? Not that I'm aware of. Sad if true.
Andrew Eisen: In the US? Not that I'm aware of. Sad if true.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:25pm
Valdearg: @AE: Actually, I think, at least for now, businesses can still discriminate against gays in a few states.. Something like 5 or 8. Its part of why Gay Rights Advocates are in support of the Employee Nondiscrimination Act, or ENDA.
Valdearg: @AE: Actually, I think, at least for now, businesses can still discriminate against gays in a few states.. Something like 5 or 8. Its part of why Gay Rights Advocates are in support of the Employee Nondiscrimination Act, or ENDA.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:22pm
Valdearg: @AE: And that's fine. Official "Church" functions are fine, despite the fact that it's discrimination, it's what I guess I would consider "acceptable" discrimination, despite the fact that I hate to use "acceptable" to define it.
Valdearg: @AE: And that's fine. Official "Church" functions are fine, despite the fact that it's discrimination, it's what I guess I would consider "acceptable" discrimination, despite the fact that I hate to use "acceptable" to define it.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:21pm
Valdearg: What's stopping someone from working with the church to declare a Catholic Corporation, that would retain it's "right" to discriminate against non-Catholics?
Valdearg: What's stopping someone from working with the church to declare a Catholic Corporation, that would retain it's "right" to discriminate against non-Catholics?
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:20pm
Valdearg: Let me ask you this. What defines something as "catholic"? There are Catholic Schools, Churchs, Charities, and even law firms.
Valdearg: Let me ask you this. What defines something as "catholic"? There are Catholic Schools, Churchs, Charities, and even law firms.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:20pm
Andrew Eisen: Indeed. You can restrict the membership of your private club however you see fit. However, a business can't refuse to hire someone based on sexual orientation.
Andrew Eisen: Indeed. You can restrict the membership of your private club however you see fit. However, a business can't refuse to hire someone based on sexual orientation.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:20pm
gellymatos: Would you hire someone against gay rights for a position of leadership in a gay rights advocacy group?
gellymatos: Would you hire someone against gay rights for a position of leadership in a gay rights advocacy group?
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:19pm
gellymatos: So, it's wrong to not hire a guy for a position specific to a belief when his belief conflicts with his position.
gellymatos: So, it's wrong to not hire a guy for a position specific to a belief when his belief conflicts with his position.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:18pm
Valdearg: And either way, it's discrimination. I'm not saying that the Government should force the church to make gay people priests, but there are plenty of other seemingly "religious" posts that really aren't all that religious.
Valdearg: And either way, it's discrimination. I'm not saying that the Government should force the church to make gay people priests, but there are plenty of other seemingly "religious" posts that really aren't all that religious.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:17pm
Valdearg: There's a fine line between Job Descrimination and Letting them practice their religious "right" to discriminate.
Valdearg: There's a fine line between Job Descrimination and Letting them practice their religious "right" to discriminate.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:15pm
gellymatos: Oh, and they are worried that "would restrict the right of a church school to employ a head teacher who shared their faith"
gellymatos: Oh, and they are worried that "would restrict the right of a church school to employ a head teacher who shared their faith"
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:15pm
Andrew Eisen: If it is separate, then the church has every right to discriminate against its own members. Put another way, the gov't has no say who the church lets in its own organization.
Andrew Eisen: If it is separate, then the church has every right to discriminate against its own members. Put another way, the gov't has no say who the church lets in its own organization.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:14pm
Andrew Eisen: Haven't read the law and not sure how it works overseas but is there a separation of church and state?
Andrew Eisen: Haven't read the law and not sure how it works overseas but is there a separation of church and state?
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:14pm
Valdearg: Like I said. He wants the Church to retain it's right to Job Discrimination. He want's the right to be above the law, and discriminate against gays. ALSO, there were provisions in the bill to prevent that scenario, with the priesthood.
Valdearg: Like I said. He wants the Church to retain it's right to Job Discrimination. He want's the right to be above the law, and discriminate against gays. ALSO, there were provisions in the bill to prevent that scenario, with the priesthood.
Posted 02/09/10 at 12:12pm
gellymatos: How about actually reading the article: " which they fear will make them admit homosexuals to the priesthood".
gellymatos: How about actually reading the article: " which they fear will make them admit homosexuals to the priesthood".
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There's something wrong with using electroshock therapy for game addiction.
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Gah. I wish I could remember the name of the place,.. but there is a 'school for troubled teens' just outside philly that still uses electro-shock. NPR did a piece about it a few months back. Very under the radar school though so I'm having trouble finding it again.
I'm reminded of those kidnappings I heard about few years ago. Parents would actually hire people to kidnap their kids and send them to this messed up prision/reform school/boot camp thing, where they're kept untill properly 'reformed'. Some worringly twisted stuff there, =/
I'm always amazed at how this stuff gets ignored by the local media...
The first I started hearing about such things it was from friends in other countries telling me about reports on human rights abuses in the US. Then again, I was usually the one telling them about problems in their own country, so it seems to be a pretty universal media problem...
Every country has problems, if you dig deep enough, but what the media wants are ratings, so they peddle things that are sensational. U.S. citizen rights being violated? Not a good headline. Michael Jackson? Russia killing babies? Totally great.
So you're saying China abducting and electro-shocking children for sitting in someones chair ISN'T something they'd consider sensational?
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I was under the impression that the first post was talking about similar practices in the U.S., which wouldn't make good headlines.
Anyway, it's unknown if this program was government sponsored; lots of bullshit companies in China operate under the guise of being government sponsors while paying the right officials hush money ... so I don't know if it's the government or just some assholes that are doing this.
Maybe China is trying to tap into these killers brains and control them with the Chinese developed NATAL like system.
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Maybe they're trying to make this for real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ubYTIazskQ
...okay, i know china isn't always the best looking country when it comes to it's various practices...but someone was actually able to get away with this for any amount of time?
Probaly because the patients were "shocked" into not tellgin what was going on at the clinic.
http://www.magicinkgaming.com/
It isn't uncommon for electroshock therapy to be used in the U.S. with a patient's consent for treatment of severe depression that doesn't respond to medication, among other things.
Considering it was used as punishment in this case, this was pretty much torture.
Locking the bathroom door? Really? Is that because if you try to kill yourself, they can't get inside? I mean, really.... Eating chocolate I could see, also taking pills before dinner, or sitting in the doctor's chair. But why can't they lock their bathroom door?
It honestly sounds like a camp to make "bad" children behave, as in, become little drones for mommy and daddy.
No, it's Communist China. They'll become little drones for the State.
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Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.
Don't they have similar things in the U.S. as well?
It was probably because if they had the door locked they could "eat chocolate" or "take pills before dinner", or do any other number of shockable things in there without getting caught
We have no Clue whether this freaky treatment has side-effects.
I think this kind of treatment has one nasty side effect: PTSD (Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder)
I wonder if they're going to compare this to the allegation of torture in Guantanamo bay Camp.
Back in the day, they used electroshock therapy to "cure" homosexuality. That sure as hell didn't work then...and history repeats itself.
"We have no clue whether this freaky treatment has side-effects."
From the website of The Mayo Clinic:
Definition:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/electroconvulsive-therapy/MY00129
Why it's done:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/electroconvulsive-therapy/MY00129/DSECTION=why%2Dits%2Ddone
RISKS:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/electroconvulsive-therapy/MY00129/DSECTION=risks
And more. Just follow their links.
And that's just from ONE site. I guess he doesn't know how to Google "side effects of electroshock therapy".
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Maybe it was blocked by the Chinese government's firewall and he doesn't know how to get around that.
"That's not ironic. That's justice."
who thinks that they only ended this program to free up some room to electrocute some of those rioting uighurs that has been going on for a month?
Considering the riots and violence is being effectively controlled in that region now... I doubt it.
Yeah. If Tiennaman Square (not sure if I spelled that right) taught China anything, it's that a tank is a very effective riot control measure.
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Wow, you obviously don't know anything about what's going on right now.
*ZAP* *ZAP* That is what you get for sitting in Dr. Yang's chair!!!
I have this image in my head of the ad that was in one of the RoboCop movies of the electrocution burglar alarms for cars.
You'd think they'd come up with something like that for the chair. Or perhaps they're afraid of the irony.
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For the benefit of those who haven't seen RoboCop!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRNVxHPJ0hM
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Wait, isn't it a GOOD thing that the Chinese government is stopping this? So why are so many people still posting negative things about this?
Because it's news to us that they were using this stuff in the first place. It's like if a friend walked up to you and said they've decided to stop beating their spouse and you had no idea about the domestic abuse in the first place.
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I can see where you're coming from, but there's nothing that suggests the facility was government sponsored. I mean, if it was, I could understand. But you have to understand that many of these facilities CLAIM to be government sponsored or somesuch but are not - and this one doesn't even have that claim, I believe.
If the American government shut down a company for bad business practice, the government should rightly be praised for it. To me, this is no different.
This topic needs a screenshot from InFamous. Here in America, we don't use electro shock on our kids, we just get the cops to taze them.
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