In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony Violated Free Speech and Stole His Money

July 21, 2009 -

A PlayStation 3 gamer has filed suit in U.S. District Court in California, alleging that SCEA suppressed his free speech rights and caused him pain and suffering by banning his account on the PlayStation Network.

In a complaint filed on July 6th, Erik Estavillo of San Jose writes that he his disabled by a variety of disorders; among these are agoraphobia, a fear of crowds:

The pain and suffering was caused by the defendant, Sony, banning the plaintiff's account on the PlayStation 3 Network, in which the plaintiff relies on to socialize with other people, since it's the only way the plaintiff can truly socialize since he also suffers from Agoraphobia...

Estavillo's issues with SCEA apparently stem from his play of the PS3 hit Resistance: Fall of Man:

The ban is supposedly due to the behavior of the plaintiff when he plays the video game "Resistance: Fall of Man," which Sony owns and employs moderators for its online play. These moderators kick and ban players that they feel are deserving; though their biases to a player seem to be what determines the kick or ban...

 

The plaintiff was exercising his First Amendment Rights to Freedom of Speech in the game's public forum when he was banned from, not only [Resistance], but also banned from playing all other games online via the PlayStation Network...

Estavillo also claims that the PSN ban amounts to a theft of his pre-paid points:

The plaintiff...cannot access [his] money when a moderator from Resistance and Sony gives a player a arbitrary wide-range ban... which in essence, is stealing money from the player...

Estavillo also argues that the EULA for online play of Resistance is ineffective in blocking players under the game's recommended age of 17, although it's unclear how this fits into his claim.

In his request to the court, Estavillo, who appears to be unrepresented, asks that SCEA be enjoined from banning players. He also seeks $55,000 in punitive damages.

To date, SCEA has not filed a response with the Court. GamePolitics has requested comment on the lawsuit from SCEA.

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Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

60$ a new game, that money, foo!!


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Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

That's funny, The game will work just fine. So again, what money?

 

 

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

The money is $20 in his Playstation Wallet, used for buying DLC from the Playstation Store, not for any services. Once the moneys been put in the wallet though it's like buying MS points, the money is already the property of the company you've paid it too, you can't get that money back. If he's been completely kicked off the Playstation Network (which would have to be the case if he can't access the wallet) then it's going to be something more serious that he was just being a dick in one game.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Not when the MP side is sold as a major part of the game, sorry you fail try again plz =^^=.

Not to mention if they bought the PS3 when it was 500+.... but anyway


Rather than resorting to banning a customer from potential sales,ect you temp ban them and add onto suspension time if they are bad in other games this way after a month or a year they can still get back into things without losing  right to have an account, and this would work for MMOs as well you merely temp ban them fro the sever, each sever eqaules a weeks time after 3 or 4 a months time each.

All I am saying its far to easy to lose ones  access  to something that is paid for one way or another, and after awhile you lose customers, so temp bans would be less problematic for everyone.


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Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Zippy,

You are a constant failure.  When you sign up for PSN (and any other online service) you have to agree to their rules, one of which is typically "User agrees to not use profane or offensive language" and user essentially agrees not to behave like a douchebag utilizing the anonymity of the internet to get away with stuff that would in all likelihood have someone kicking the crap out of him in real life.  I don't know what this guy did to get banned, but after reading some stuff that X-Box Live has banned people for (and they keep recordings and other evidence just in case stuff like this happens), these services simply aren't banning people because the moderator was having a bad day (although they DO reserve the right to do this). 

Most of these services do have temporary bans UNLESS the behavior in question is so egregiously bad that it warrants a permanent ban.  It could also be true that PSN already had a folder on this guy and had issued warnings to him that went ignored (we don't know).

1) Resistance: Fall of Man does indeed state that the multiplayer is a major feature of the game.  But, like on any other game box in the existence of these consoles, it also says you need to have an internet connection to utilise it, and that you must also subscribe to the appropriate network (PSN in this case) to use it. 

2) You have to sign off on PSN's rules to gain access there.

3) Violation of said rules get you banned from PSN, meaning you no longer satisfy the conditions of #1.  That's the user's fault.  Period.  End of story.

 

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

I admit, I am not sure I understand where the money comes into play in this case since I am not familiar with how Sony's online service works.

But no, the Sony mods do not have an unlimited card here.  You can not, for instance, put in a contract 'we reserve the right to terminate the contract and keep your fee at any time for any reason'.  Companies often do but they tend to loose lawsuits when they actually get called on it.  Once you agree to provide a service, yanking that away without justification can be actionable.

For instance, if the power company decided to cut you off because they don't like your lawn Gnome, even if they have a 'for any reason' clause in their contract (I know cable and phone companies do), they would probably loose a suit if one wanted to put the energy into pushing it.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...


Simple don't ban, rather kick them out of games after 5 or 10 kicks they get temp banned from that game for a day, if they get temp baned from another game thats a weeks ban from both, another game theres another week for all the games they been an annoyance on, on the 4th game they are temp baned for 60 days on the listed games, each game after that is another 30 days ontop of whatever suspension time they earned.

This way you only get any real down time if managed to piss off at least 3 different moderator's, this is better than some moderation systems because the mods can't outright ban you without some effort put into it(would also help run down bad moderators who would go the extra mile and hope games looking for spiffeffic people to ban). I say this because gaming is getting to be to expensive to ban someone just because asshattedness on either the consumer or moderator part.

 


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Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

How do you know that isn't what happened?  In most games you don't get a ban straight away (they want your money, after all) you have to do something pretty serious - and repeat it several times - to get a permanent ban.

 

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

A few points.

1) He has agoraphobia, the fear of crowds, right?  Then how does he hope to represent himself in the courtroom?  You see, most agoraphobes shut down when brought into a crowded setting (like a courtroom), and I don't doubt that having 5 to 10 lawyers from Sony and whoever made Resistance standing there and tearing you apart probably won't help.  I think the agoraphobia claim is a sham.

2) I would like to know what he said.  I've heard moderators tolerate some pretty foul language in all the days I've been playing on PC, Ps2, Xbox 360, PS3, Dreamcast, etc, etc.  I don't doubt for a minute that he probably earned this ban.

3) I enjoy that he wants to force SCEA to lose the power to ban.  Any company in America can, at any time, choose not to serve someone for any reason.  So he's got no real recourse here.

Here's how I see the court case going;  Erik will make a statement, Sony's law team will make a statement, Erik will make some claims (and probably call himself to the stand as the sole witness) and then, upon cross-examination, Sony's lawyers will rip him a new asshole, and probably even bring up EXACTLY what he said online that lead to the ban. 

Of course, this will be in California, where some of the world's most fucktarded rulings have been handed down, so I could be wrong.   But I doubt it.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

I have no clue about how the court system works in this regard, but i would imagine that the courts would be able to make a few adjustments for him if he requested it... like having the case handled behind closed doors with only those necessary in attendance or something...

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Monte, as it is my birthday and I am feeling generous, allow me to enlighten you to something.

You see, large corporations have law TEAMS.  Whereas a small company (like mine) may have only 1 or 2 (or 3, in my case) lawyers, these large corporations may have HUNDREDS.  More often, these HUNDREDS of lawyers are culled from the finest schools, fatted on the finest meats, and given the finest of housing.  And why?  Because they are very good at what they do. 

So, when someone (like the jackass we're all talking about) decides to sue SCEA, you don't sit in a courtroom with but 1 lawyer on the other side.  You sit in a courtroom with at least 5 of the best corporate lawyers available to that company.  This is, in of itself, daunting enough.  However, you may be sitting next to 5 lawyers at the table, and then a few dozen more lawyers from the company observing, which makes it all the more daunting.

Couple that with the fact that the complainant seems to have no idea what the fuck he's doing, and you have the makings of a court case that will be both short and hilarious.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

So okay Lets point something else out, Discrimination law. He's protected under it because they would concider his phobias to be mental disorders. So technically they would probably have to comply with the wishes of this guy and try to limit the exposure to crowds for his sake because everyone has their right to their day in court and no one wants to have to face the ACLU and other groups who wouldn't care about why he went to court just that they discriminated against him.


Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

 That's what i was getting at... i mean i know big companies have huge teams of lawyers and will bring in several to argue a case. My point was that due to the kids special conditions, the courts might be willing to make special exceptions for him to limit those who can be at the case... who knows, they might even be able to set a live video feed, so that anyone else who wants to watch the case can do so from outside.

Not to mention that Sony would only need one half-way decent lawyer to win this joke of a lawsuit. 

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Sony will never let this go to court, if the courts are blind enough to let it through. Technically, the service is free. All he's "out" is any money he's spent on downloaded content, which is almost certainly less than $100. If Sony reimbursed him for that content, he'd have nothing to be fighting for. If his "lawyer" turned down an offer of reimbursement from Sony, that would be the clincher from the court's POV.

This is going to go away.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Agoraphobia is the fear of open spaces.

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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

-------------------------------------------------- I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

If I recall correclty, is the fear of public spaces, not just open.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

I think agoraphobia has more to do with spaces - be they public, open, unfamiliar, etc. - over which the sufferer fears they have no control. Which is why they often respond to their fears by confining themselves to spaces over which they believe they can exert some control (e.g., their homes). Agoraphobes can even get freaked out by strangers entering their "controlled environments" because of their irrational fear that their control has been somehow diminished by the stranger's presence.

How do I know this? From my college Psych 101 class? Nope. Seen it in an episode of "House."

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

I was thinking of that episode when I read your first paragraph.

Everyone agrees that House is awesome.  If you don't agree, you have lupus.

 

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

But it's NEVER lupus!

I'm Charlie Owens, good night, and good luck.

I'm Charlie Owens, good night, and good luck.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

But we can't EVER say that with any certainty until we've run an MRI, done a CAT scan, and started a full course of intravenous antibiotics!  

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Totally frivilous and another indicator of a society believing that they are entitled to everything. 

This guy is taking a Jack Thompson approach to the situation:  1) Act like a douche in a privately-owned environment, violating behavior guidelines.  2) Get banned for acting like a douche.  3) Bring out lawsuits, lame excuses, and shout about your 1st Amendment rights are being violated.

Fortunately, as our old friend has shown, step 4 is "fail".

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

"Congress shall pass no law respecting the establishment of religion, nor restricting the free exercise thereof, nor any law abridging the freedom of speech, the freedom of press, the freedom of the people to peacefully assemble, and the freedom of the people to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

The Supreme Court has also declared this also applies to state governments as well.

I'll let everyone else make their own opinions on whether this kid's rights were supressed.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Sony is neither the federal nor the state government. They can decide what they will allow or won't.

If you went onto Sony's gaming network, and badmouthed them while pimping the Xbox 360, you can bet they're gonna pull your plug. Even though what you said was not imflammatory, obscene, racist, homophobic, slandarous, etc. it wouldn't matter. Anything that they feel is inappropriate, for any reason that they deem sufficient, can get you booted, and this guy agreed to that when he marked off that little box that said "I have read and agree to the terms of service."

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

"...and the freedom of the people to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

He feels he has a grievance and he's taking to the government through the judicial branch.

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Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

There's something to be said about a judicial system which lets every litigant with a half-baked theory have their day in court. Even if the "day" only lasts from 9:00 AM to 9:05 AM.  

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Looks like this guy is representing himself.  I'm willing to bet it won't lost from 0900 to 0903 without summary judgment that he needs to go fuck himself.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

I've never heard of a federal court issuing that specific judgment but, yes, I doubt my man's gonna be lingering on anyone's docket for too long. Actually, as a matter of pure civil procedure, he won't even get to the point in the process of summary judgment. He falls victim to the more earlier appearing "failure to state a claim for which relief can be granted" (i.e., the litigant has presented the court with no valid claim upon which judgment can be passed, summarily or otherwise). 

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Wouldn't it be absolutely epic if they did though?

'It is the considered opinion of this Court that the Appellant can go fuck himself....'

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Best. Judgement. EVER. I may even change my opinion of lawyers if that ever happens.

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Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

1) I agree with everybody that the first amendment does not pertain to private property

2) What was his actions to get him banned? Must have been pretty bad (language / aggressive behavior). To be banned from everything, had to have been bad enough Sony doesn't want to deal with it.

3) I'm not even going to continue. The guy messed up, he's upset about the situation, and because people believe they can do no wrong; it's everybody else that screwed up. I love our sue happy nation :(

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Part of that is because in the US, it is extremely easy to file a lawsuit, over the most trivial of things.

As far as I know, In Canada, if you sue someone and lose, you have to pay their legal fees.  That alone cuts down on frivolous lawsuits.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Though on the other hand, it also cuts down on the 'little guy's' ablity to access the court system.  People with deep pockets have unfettered access to sue and harass, while poorer litigants have to weigh ruin against the chances of their case being successful.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Possibly, but it would also save the tax payer alot of money and free up the courts for more important cases. Just because its easy to sue in the US, doesnt make it a good thing. There should be a middle ground where it's harder to sue and yet still there for those who have serious cases.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Define "more important". If someone has wronged you, or hurt you or your loved ones, there is no case more important than yours.

Most of the cases "clogging" the courts these days are IP cases or corporate CEOs otherwise going at it, and using their companies as weapons against other CEOs they just don't like.

Quiet frankly we have enough proceedures to weed out the frivilous suits very early on in the process. Motions to Dissmiss, THEN discovery, THEN Summary Judgement, then Trial.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

So let me get this straight, the kid is a douche online and is mad when he gets called out on it and banned? This is not lawsuit material, the mod did not know he has problems with crowds there is no pain and suffering from being banned for being a complete douche to others.

"The plaintiff was exercising his First Amendment Rights to Freedom of Speech in the game's public forum when he was banned from, not only [Resistance], but also banned from playing all other games online via the PlayStation Network..."

The internet is not America. Of course you can say whatever you want on the internet but the First Amendment cannot protect your douchebaggery.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

We might want ot know what the guy said before we pass judgement.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

That's the whole thing... we don't NEED to know what he said. He could have said "I like my Grandma's cooking." It's irrelevant. The terms of service say that players can be banned for conduct at the discretion of the moderators. Whatever the terms of service specify, he agreed to them or he wouldn't be playing games over the service. If Sony's mods banned him, they did so according to terms he agreed to.

Sony is not going to pull the plug on a source of revenue unless he did something the mods can backup as having violated the terms of service. Even if we know what it was, and even if we disagreed, it doesn't matter. It's their call and he agreed to give them that power. He's S.O.L.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

If you go to a movie or concert, and get kicked out for whatever reason, they don't refund your ticket money.  I don't see this as any different.

 

I too would like to know exactly what he was doing when the mods banned him.  And yes, private companies are allowed to moderate their forums as they wish.  If they don't want anyone to talk about gays, broccoli, the moon, or iran, that's their perogative.

 

What I get out of this after reading the complaints is the same as everyone else.. "I wasn't being a jack%^&, the mods are just biased against me!"

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Well...to me it seems like it's "getting kicked out of a store and having all of the items that you ALREADY PAYED FOR being taken away too." In my opinion they should refund those points but otherwise I agree with Sony.

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Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Odds are there's a part in the EULA that states they do not have to refund anything if they are not at fault. Most (if not all) online services that you have to pay for have this is one way or another.

Besides, it's not like he can't use his sytem anymore. He can still play offline.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

I believe that's the case. Money you've paid into the wallet is already property of Sony, you can't withdraw it (same as you can't turn MS points back into cash). You don't have to keep any money in the wallet and the service is free so I think it's a case of 'tough shit' to be honest.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

I don't want to sound insensitive, but... two points:

1: The First Amendment - or equivalent - does not apply to private property.

2: Seek professional help.  There's no shame in this.

Actually, three (3) points:

Hiding behind your anxieties will not endear you to me.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

1.  You're banned because we don't like what you say or how you say it.  And no one should ever make the argument again that the soliders fighting the "war on terror" are "over there fighting for our freedoms" because they don't really exist.

2.  What evidence do you have that he hasn't and that this isn't one of the solutions suggested to him?

3.  Hiding behind your limited knowledge of such conditions while pretending that you know all about them won't endear you to me.

So there!  :P

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Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

I'm not going to leap to any conclusions about just what it was that got this guy banned, but whenver someone natters about their First Amendment rights in a game or on a message board, it usually shows that they have no understanding of what the First Amendment actually is and that they were also being a colossal asshole who deserved to have the banhammer come down on them.

I will agree that losing his pre-paid points is pretty shitty, though.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

I am really curious about how he was expressing his "Right to Free Speech" If it is anything like XBLA, he was probably cursing and using every possible racist, homophobic and sexist work he could come up with.

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Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

I suspect the exact same. Remember, right to free speech does not necessitate right to hate speech. Not only that, but it also does not apply to a corporation; especially when said corporation has made it clear in their EULA that they may issue bans to anyone at anytime for any reasonable reason. I get the feeling he probably said something to a moderator or other player who actually reported him and a moderator actually followed through (if only that could happen on XBL, then I might actually be willing to play on it). Then he felt dejected losing a social outlet (Though, I will be honest, if I was a sitting judge and someone came to me with the claim that being banned on a game network caused them great harm, I'd immediately toss the case with prejudice), and decided to file suit (Pray for Wikipedia).


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Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Actually, "hate speech" is an iffy one. It tends to vary more on case-by-case, than as a blanket. Technically, hate speech is protected, however, inciting violence is not. To use an example:

If I said, "X are all greedy bastards and ruin the world," that would technically be protected, because it is an expression of opinion.

But then if I said, "We must rise and fight X, we must be rid of their kind," that is inciting violence, and hence, may not be protected.

That's what I understand, anyway. If anyone wants to correct me, please do.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Yes, that is true. I believe you've got the difference pretty nailed down pat.

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Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

Probably, although I'll have to hear what Sony has to say about it before I pass judgement. This guy may be suffering from xenophobia as well.

However, I did hear a similar problem with Sony's older online games, like FFXI. According to many accounts, bans were based just on what Sony felt was inappropriate or slandering.

Re: In Lawsuit, Banned Resistance Player Alleges that Sony ...

If the accounts are tied to FFXI, then it would be Square-Enix's call, not Sony's.  I forget the relation between Sony and the Resistance devs (I think it's Incog but I could be wrong), but they probably have a first party relationship whereas Square is a third party publisher.

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MaskedPixelanteAnother round of Night Dive teasing and promising turns out to be stupid edutainment games. Thanks for wasting all our time, guys. See you never.04/17/2014 - 3:44pm
Matthew WilsonAgain the consequences were not only foreseeable, but very likely. anyone who understood supply demand curvs knew that was going to happen. SF has been a econ/trade hub for the last hundred years.04/17/2014 - 2:45pm
Andrew EisenMixedPixelante - Would you like to expand on that?04/17/2014 - 2:43pm
MaskedPixelanteWell, I am officially done with Night Dive Studios. Unless they can bring something worthwhile back, I'm never buying another game from them.04/17/2014 - 2:29pm
PHX Corphttp://www.msnbc.com/ronan-farrow/watch/video-games-continue-to-break-the-mold-229561923638 Ronan Farrow Daily on Video games breaking the mold04/17/2014 - 2:13pm
 

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