13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet Addiction Camp

August 10, 2009 -

Last week GamePolitics reported on the tragic death of 16-year-old Deng Senshan (left). The Chinese teen was beaten to death by employees at a camp for Internet addicts.

IDG is now reporting that 13 people have been rounded up by Chinese investigators. The facility itself, the Qihang Salvation Training Camp, has been shut down after authorities found that it was unlicensed. 122 students receiving "treatment" there were sent home to their families. From the IDG report:

Conservative [Chinese] officials blame hugely popular online games like World of Warcraft for getting teens hooked on the Web, harming their grades in school and dividing them from their parents. Some of the camps have used shock treatment on students, but China banned the practice last month.

UPDATE: More at Slashdot...


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Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

Looking at the update info on Slashdot, this is still far from over...

Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

All well and good until soemone else finds an excuse to set up a concentration camp for nerds.

Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

Hi I'm setting up a Camp for parents who are so clueless about their job as "parent" that teaches them that it is YOU the PARENT who is in fact a failure and not your child who is doing what all kids who are going through life unmanaged by their parents do, which is surf the net 24/7.

(sad thing is... were I to actually be doing this I'm sure there are already parents ready to sign up. Independent thought is sooo last century eh parents?)

 

Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

Atlease China is doing something about the camp that killed a kid.

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Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

I'm pleasantly surprised China's doing anything at all about this.


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Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

I wonder if the people that were arrested are going to be beaten and tortured...It would be ironic, don't you think?

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Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

It would be ironic in the civilized world. In China, it's just Monday.


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Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

Yeah, other countries have NEVER beaten/tortured prisoners before.


Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

Way to go China.  Good job by the way, shutting down the camp not because it killed a kid, but because it didn't have a license.

This is typical of China, though.  Years ago, they had people beating others into submission for all sorts of things, and that was all government paid and backed.  It's no surprise they really don't seem to much care that a teen was murdered.

Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

So... they let it keep running, you complain. They shut it down, you complain. Classic brainwashed American.


Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

You're right.  It's great that they shut it down because it was UNLICENSED, AS OPPOSED TO SHUTTING IT DOWN BECAUSE THEY KILLED A KID.  Pull your head out of your ass; if that happened in America, you'd be point and saying 'they don't care that they killed a kid'.  That's what is ACTUALLY HAPPENING HERE. 

Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

without proof that the three responsible were acting with a green light from the institution, this institution would have not been closed so easily. what you may not understand is that closure due to no license was most likely the easy, and most legally sound reason to close the place without attempting to prosecute the entire place for allowing it to happen when all the men in charge would have to do is state the three were acting out against regulations.

the unlicensed part is just what is on paper, the cause of it's discovery, and the outrage most likely to result is still caused by the poor kids death.

the place is closed, people are being taken in to custody and will most likely be punished, and places like this will probably be viewed with more suspicion by the masses.

personally, you seem a little too anti-china to remain objective in the matter considering it's been stated that they place was never given approval by the government (hence unlicensed)

Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

So, let's review; you're saying that it is okay that the only reason they could find to close the camp is because it was unlicensed?  You're alright with the fact that the easiest reason to close a camp that had killed a child was due to it being unlicensed?  Really?

Let's compare this to America.  Hell, let's compare it to most civilized countries.  If, at, say, a fat camp, an individual died due to being beaten to death, chances are that the whole camp would be closed so the government and local authorities could do a COMPLETE investigation into exactly what happened.  The reason would be that an individual had DIED, not that they had no license. 

Then again, the Chinese Government places very little importance on the lives of its citizens, so it doesn't surprise me that this was their response.  What surprises me is that you think it's okay that the only reason the camp is shutdown by the government is that they don't have a license.

Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

i am now quite sure that you are way too biased against it.

A) you're blaming china, when the fact that they were unlicensed means the chinese government did not condone it's actions in any form, so using this as proof the chinese government doesn't care about it's citizens is completely irrational

 

B) A simple labelling of the three as radicals who broke established rules and regulations to kill this kid would push blame upon the three, not the entire operation. I'm not saying they should ignore the kids death in light of the license, but at this stage of the investigation, the license issue was the quickest way to shut it down and prevent any sleazy legal moves on the part of the owners of the place. murder charges will likely be brought against them at some later date.


C) Take a look at American mental institutions and the horrible things they got away with in the past.

and finally

D) the investigation is ongoing and murder charges can still be brought against them. it was DURING THE INVESTIGATION of the childs death that the license issue was brought up and most likely would have been closed regardless.

 

you are jumping at any chance to condem china when china itself had nothing to do with this, you're placing the blame of a few on an entire country.

Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

A)The chinese government is the one that can't figure out a better way to suspend the business than 'because they don't have a license'.  That kind of shows where their concern is, and its not with the dead kid.

B) Any organization that works with addicts is meant to be run in a way where the people are kept as physically healthy as possible.  Any organization that works with addicts also needs to be sure it's not hiring thugs and people who act like felons.

C) Yeah, American health institutes were pretty bad pre-50s.  Of course, so was the rest of the world.  The main difference being that we moved past ineffective and abusive procedures and treatments; China appears to not have.  Hell, they finally stopped electroshock a week or two ago.  What a great country.

D) I doubt very much they would have closed it if it never recieved such media play.  It would have been another story of the corruption of the chinese government; they would have demand a huge payoff and let the 'camp' continue to operate.  Just like most of the industries in China.

Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

A) so no american criminal was tried for a lesser crime because no proof could be found for the more severe one, not to mention, as i stated the people they took in to custody will still most likely face charges for the childs death, unless you've got a direct line to china news, you can not say otherwise. in fact, quoted from the slashdot article: " The vice-chief of the district has stated that the authorities are working on the case to identify and punish the criminals involved in the death." the child's death is by no means being left behind and ignored.

B) that's something that can occur in any organization and has nothing to do with china itself and the hiring was done by the organization, not the chinese

C) I'm guessing many other countries probably still allow it, at least china has made a step in the right direction, by why focus on "great, they've outlawed a horrible practice" when you can focus on "well we did it sooner, they're idiots for not follwoing us".

D) That's just pure speculation, if they really had such pull/coruption i doubt it would have even made it to the press.

not to mention such practices such as bribery and corruption exist here as well.  lobbyists for some industries basically say "vote in our favor and we'll make "donations". hell, one guy (i forget his name) was caught "auctioning" obama's former position before becoming president.  Or what about the scandals involving kwami kilpatrick and the possible murder of a hooker (why can't my state ever be on national news for something positive) yet he stayed in office till the text scandals.

Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

to be fair, a situation like this could be a result of just the three over-zealous idiots, and not the fault of the entire institution. so they most likely didn't go in there 100% sure they were going to shut down the entire operation.

 

Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

Decades ago, they were "deprogrammers", verbally, mentally, physically, even sexually abusing kids and adults because their victims had belief (by choice or force) that were different their own, so they forced their victims, through abuse, to follow THEIR beliefs, rather than teach them to have a choice.  Making them "reprogrammers", not "deprogrammers".

Years later, it was so-called mental health professionals who believed that various forms of abuse against adults and children could "cure" their victims of homosexuality.  Even creating "camps" to "change" them.

Then, there are the troubled youth, the fat, the depressed, and more.  All finding their way into "camps" to "cure" them through verbal, mental, physical, and/or sexual abuse.

But you know what?  The common element in all this is?  Not that there are people who need help or need to be "cured".  But that there are sick sociopaths and psychopaths out there who found a way to get off on their sick desires of a variety of abuses against children and adults alike.

They find a scapegoat, something to blame, so that they can create a reason to "cure" something.

In the case of those who had been taken advantage of by groups who used brainwashing techniques to force their victims to follow a particular belief, the "deprogrammers" co-opted the same tactic to do the same thing, only they programmed their victims to believe in an "acceptable" religion.

In the case of the victims who were homosexual, they had been the victims of various forms of abuse because society had taught that that is how you treated homosexuals.  As many are taught that being the victim of abuse for ANY reason and the resulting emotional horrors from it is actually the victim's fault.  So the so-called mental health professionals blamed, not society's obscene teaching that abuse is good, homosexuality as being "bad" and "harmful".  So, to get their sick, perverted rocks off, they had a justification for abusing homosexuals.

Scapegoat after scapegoat has been created.  All to feed a sick need to have their desires to abuse others justified. 

But each and every time, it backfires and shows itself for what it really is.  A sick, obscene, perverted desire to abuse others, whether it be verbally, mentally, physically, and/or sexually and whether the victim be adult or child.

And there's no end in sight.  "Spare the rod, spoil the child."  We've seen just how far THAT is taken.  Even the so-called Seat Of Morality, the Vatican, attempts to cover that up.  Look to the recent events in Ireland for proof. 

It isn't the victims who are the most in need of "curing". 

It's the people who claim to have the cure.

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Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

We need to invent something that draws people away from creating new scapegoats. Something that is future-proof and present proof. It will be considered the holy grail of culture.

Re: 13 Arrested After Chinese Teen Is Killed at Internet ...

We need to send those sick curers somewhere - to a camp where people can re-allocate their perverted thinking!

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I am surprised  they didnt make the camp and every one dissaper 0-o

 


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