Gamer Imagery Used in Campaign to Discourage "Gay" as an Insult

August 12, 2009 -

The sorry history of homophobia in gaming is pretty well documented, so it's probably not a coincidence that a campaign to discourage anti-gay remarks includes a gaming piece among its poster ads.

ThinkB4YouSPeak, which hopes to raise awareness about anti-gay bias in America's schools by reducing the use of homophobic language, explains its mission at its website:

Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) teens experience homophobic remarks and harassment throughout the school day, creating an atmosphere where they feel disrespected, unwanted and unsafe. Homophobic remarks such as “that’s so gay” are the most commonly heard; these slurs are often unintentional and a common part of teens’ vernacular. Most do not recognize the consequences, but the casual use of this language often carries over into more overt harassment.

The poster at left substitutes the commonly heard "That's so gay" with "That's so gamer guy who has more video games than friends." Stereotypical? Of course. But that would seem to be the point. Other posters include jock and cheerleader themes.


Comments

So...uh...

While everyone is busy debating if "gay" is really a hateful term directed toward homosexuals or not, rather than where this topic intersects with gaming culture, has anyone considered the other angle on this specific Ad?

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Is anyone going to point out the part where this Ad campaign is replacing an implied negative sexual term with an implied negative stereotype about gamers? ("Gamers don't have friends")

...anyone?  

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I think quiet a few people have said the stereotype is silly and very non-offensive. Many gamers build game collections, and these collections can easily have hundreds of games. Of course these people are going to have more games than friends; how many people actually have 100+ people they would consider very close friends? On top of that, some people prefer to keep a small circle of close friends and don't have any problem with that.

The entire ad is based on the stereotype of all gamers being anti-social nerds who spend all their time hunched over keyboards in dark basements. Very few gamers actually fit that stereotype, so the ad kind of falls flat on making any impact on the gamer demographic.

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yah the gamer sterotype is really not all that offending. its about as crappy of a insult as a homosexual calling a straight person a "breeder" which is gotta be the most non-offensive word to be used as a insult to date.

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Apparently it seems to be based off of the belief that people only own a couple games. When talking about real friends and not the friend count on Facebook this "gamer guy" stereotype doesn't work. Imagine "music guy with more CDs than friends", "film guy with more DVDs than friends" and most people would see that this assumption was poorly made.

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wow,for having taken a word that meant happy to represent themselves , these ppl seem to whine a lot

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Thing is, there's an interesting little thought-experiment you can do here:

Imagine that tomorrow, the homosexual community completely abandoned the phrase 'Gay' for representing themselves, that word is never used by Homosexuals from that point onwards. Instead, for the sake of argument, the word 'Orange' is used, so 'orange' now means to homosexuals and the rest of the world exactly what 'gay' did beforehand, people still remember the phrase 'gay', it hasn't been erased from history, just not used any more.

Personally, I suspect the answer to whether the comment is homophobic, intentionally or not, would depend on whether the phrase 'that's so gay' became 'that's so orange' and the length of time it would take to do so if it did.

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A rose by any other name....

It'll just be a euphamism merry-go-round.  What word can we use this week?  Damn...they took offense...ok, can't use Orange anymore.  Let's use Flipper...damn...now they taking offense at that.  Ok...next word...

 

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In this hypothetical though it's not about the word, changing the insult to match the "new" gay word would just show that it's being used specifically because of it's association with homosexuality and not because of the word having an assumed or evolved meaning. That's hate.

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What about when someone uses the term gay as an insult someone and they are insinuating that that person has relations with a person of their own gender even in truth they do not.  So the comparison is rather moot when many people who do use gay as a derogatory actually do dislike gay people.

Though now I have a bit running through my head:

Person 1: "That movie was so gay!"
Person 2: "Hey, that is derogatory, don't be like that."

Person 1: "You are right.  I'm sorry.  What I meant to say is that movie was two men or two women having sex with one another."

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Wow.  I could spend another day and a half posting retorts to the countless threads here, but it would be like throwing pearls to swine.  (Ooh ooh, is someone going to post and call me a hypocrite for quoting the Bible even though I'm queer?! Please do; it would be par for the course.)

I have better things to do.  I'm pretty disappointed how many people post here and still use playground logic.  Really, guys, this isn't GameFAQs.  Maybe just try to think outside your boxes here for a sec.  Young minds are extremely susceptible to marketing like this.  If you think otherwise, you're either still a child (and too rebellious to believe in marketing), or you're a jaded adult (and still, likely, has not worked with marketin).

And besides, what the fuck is the campaign going to hurt?  Everyone has the right not to be insulted by language - period.

And don't ever, ever pretend to speak for queer people or what's good for them if you're not one.  The reason we feel entitled to affect changes in language is a little something about being in a minority which has been murdered and beaten and legislated against for pretty much always in the Western world.  Language shifts and grassroots movements are the only weapons a minority has.

Not that I expect to change anyone's mind, but I do feel a bit betrayed knowing there are so many normally liberal folks posting here who, when it comes down to it, don't give a rat's ass about social liberties except when it directly benefits them as gamers.

Good luck gaining acceptance by the mainstream when you're busy working to divide your own community.

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Most of us (Libertarian here btw) here greatly care about social liberties. We also aren't saying that this group can't exist. We're simply saying how this group has the wrong mentality and grasp of language. You can call me an ass or anything all you want for me saying "that's gay," and like the other user said, I really wouldn't care, because I know that I didn't mean to offend you.

I'm only replying because I am fairly offended by someone saying that I don't care about social liberties.

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I want to state I don't think anyone here has said anything about gay people NOT being able to have social liberties. THis is more about showing respect and compassion than actual rights, civil or otherwise.

I don't call people out for belonging to any group, even when I REALLY hate the majority of what that group stands for. It would be nice if others did the same. That's why this is an issue. ALong with the other reasons I've mentioned (the parts that actually lead to someone really getting hurt).

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I do respect gay people. I don't really understand what you're trying to say...

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If you use the phrase "that's gay" your idea of respect and mine are worlds apart.

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Not being able to get married....that infringes upon your social liberties.  Being discriminated in the workplace...that infringes upon your social liberties.  Being attacked by mouthbreathing homophobes damn well infringes upon your social liberties.

All of the above are horrible injustices that no person under the law should be subject to.  I wish you nothing but success in getting these wrongs righted.

 

However....common words (except as written in law, or slander/libel) have never, ever affected anybody's social liberties.  Particularly words that aren't even being used in an offending context.  Trying to keeping people from using mere words does not protect your social liberties, only your delicate feelings.

I live in the US...a place that guarantees my freedom of speech.  Even if I'm saying the most heinous hateful things in the world...I can say them, because of the 1st Ammendment (of course I can't say Fire in a movie theatre but this is a different argument).

The reason I object to this type of stuff is it is thought-police PC bullshit.  This is a small step towards laws like those in Europe against hate speech.  As much as I hate Nazis, the KKK and the Westboro Baptist Church...in America they can say what they want.   And I can call them all fuktards in return.  You don't like it when somebody says, "That's so gay..."  Fine.  Call them an asshole and be done with it.  There's no reason to try to legislate vocabulary to the greater population.

 

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My partner and I appreciate the well-wishes for our civil rights.

I agree with you that people have a right to say what they want, and those with different ideas can dissent how they want as long as it's not infringing.  Which is why it baffles me to have to say this:

Who said anything about trying to legislate vocabulary?  This is an influence campaign to try and get people (gamers) to see things in a light they've never had to (having their identity attacked so they experience being on the defensive for something they shouldn't have to defend).  No one is proposing legislation, only the changing of minds via discourse.

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You are right...this is an ad campaign and nothing more.

It just seems to me that we are becoming a bit too obsessed with the European ideal that no person should ever be offended, and that you can outlaw words and language.  I want to resist that here no matter what.

Point taken.

 

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For the record, what is the age range in this discussion? Does anyone over the age of 13 seriously use "gay" as an insult? Is anyone over that age sincerely confused as to why it irritates people?

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You can only be offended if you want to be.  Let me say that again, "You can only be offended if you want to be."

You can say the most horrible things to me, and you know what?  I'm not going to care.  Because I don't care enough about your opinion for it to matter.

If my father calls me the same names, I might get upset.  But just because some complete stranger says a bad word....why on earth would I get upset?

If I got upset and cried at every stupid thing anybody has ever said in my presence, or in the media, I'd have run out of tears years ago.

 

 

"You know what I wish? I wish all the scum of the Earth had one throat and I had my hands about it."

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Whatever happened to "sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me"?!?!?

I swear we are raising a generation of thin-skinned idiots who can't deal with competition in the real world (the "everybody wins" and "Let's not keep score" mentality).

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Someone committed murder/suicide because of something someone else called them. Yeah that's about the time that whole little childhood chant lost it's value.

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If somebody committed murder/suicide because of what ANYONE said to them or called them...that person has/had problems and was probably not the most stable of people to begin with.

You can't force society to abide by conventions just to protect the lowest common denomenator. 

Else nobody could play video games at all (just because a few whackos decided to kill people after playing GTA).

 

"You know what I wish? I wish all the scum of the Earth had one throat and I had my hands about it."

"You know what I wish? I wish all the scum of the Earth had one throat and I had my hands about it."

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I don't see them trying to pass a law. They're running an ad campaign, I object in the mildest manner to the use of the word "force" when speaking of an ad campaign.

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What does competition have to do with insulting an entire group of people? If, to criticize something, I said "That's so Jew," would it be okay?

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Well if that isn't a terrible example.  The word "Jew" wasn't a word that described something else before it was used as a pejorative.

Nice try though....

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I will agree that some people are highly offended by the word "gay." However, that is not a good justification to say that we need to keep people from using certain words. I applaud the campaign's attempt to get spread the word that use of the word gay maybe derogatory, but it's not effective for the all the reasons that were posted earlier.

Personally, I find that anyone highly offended by just the use of the word, "gay" has a problem. Think of it this way, there are gay men out there who can laugh and even say, "that's so gay" in the same way a straight guy would say it. There are a few that get very offended. I have much more respect for the gay man who can laugh and even use the word "gay" in the way we do. He seems like the type of person who is easy to get along with and has a lot of self respect. The person who get's offended does not.

I'd rather hang out with a person who knows what he or she is about and proud of it.

Instead of discouraging the use of one word, why not try and encourage those people who get offended to not care, or be proud.

Kids tease each other in the playground all the time. From my experience, if a kid gets all emotional and angry over being teased, the other kids usually do it more, just because it get's a reaction. It stops being fun when you can't get any kind of reaction.

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Isn't it pretty obvious that the whole point the term "that's gay" exists as an insult and used to say that something is bad comes from the fact that whoever originally used it didn't like gay people and to say that something was gay was probably to him the most insulting thing to say?

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The term "gay" as part of the "gamer" slang has been around for so long now.  I remember using the term many, many moons ago, possibly when I was a kid.  At the time, we used it as a joke because...well we didn't know any better.  We would also say that "Gay means happy" in some countries or something (I forget where).
When I started playing games online, people would say the some variation of situations followed with "gay" (That sniper is gay, the guy carrying the bomb is gay, etc) and well...it became part of anyone's terminology.

I found out some time later that one of our clan mates is in fact gay.  I remember a lot of people would use "gay" around him but he never seemed bothered.  Maybe not everyone finds the term offensive.  I can't vouche for my friend actually saying it, but I can say I still talk to the guy and am pretty good friends.  Hell, I gave him some advice awhile back when he was going through a tough time in a relationship.

Time will probably erase the term itself.  Someday, we'll move on to something else that people are uncomfortable with.  I remember there was an issue with a game for having the word, "spaz" and they made such a big deal out of it.  It could be worse, we could be going back to the whole racism cards again (though I'm sure there are those words still being spouted across every match of every game possible).

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I don't use "gay" as an insult anyways. 1.It's overused to the point it has lost any meaning 2. Yuri is hot, what is so insulting? I prefer insults like "vegan spine", because they will still offend people.

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I just went to the website, and am now dead against the whole thing.  
Here are some other words they suggest we stop using:

Cougar (as in a MILF who likes to pick up on younger men or women)

Prick

Fag

Balls

Queer

Dick

Ass

Dyke

Fruit

Bad

Tranny

Lesbos

Cherry

Nuts

 

So, I suggest we continue to openly mock the faggots, trannys, and dykes who must surely be pushing this organization.

Oh wait.  There are none.  Just a bunch of asshats.  Well, fuck them.

 

EDIT
Add the word 'Beard' to the list.

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I refuse to stop using the following words on the list.

-Prick

-Dick

-Balls

-Ass

-Nuts

-Beard (Seriously... why?)

-Cherry

I left off cougar because it's a stupid word anyways and I don't use it. But still, what do I call my beard? It's not enough for a tuft but it's too much for a goatee and Facial hear doesn't flow well in a proper conversation.

IMA FIRIN MAH LASER!!!

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Beard? FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 

Also, I like saying balls. Say it with me, kids! "I've got balls of steel!"

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I just went to the website, and am now dead against the whole thing.  
Here are some other words they suggest we stop using:

Cougar (as in a MILF who likes to pick up on younger men or women)

Prick

Fag

Balls

Queer

Dick

Fag

Ass

Dyke

Fruit

Bad

Tranny

Lesbos

Cherry

Nuts

 

So, I suggest we continue to openly mock the faggots, trannys, and dykes who must surely be pushing this organization.

Oh wait.  There are none.  Just a bunch of asshats.  Well, fuck them.

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Ok I don't understand tranny, usually when I hear it it's just a shorter version of transvestite with no inherent negative connotations. I mean you can easily put a negative spin on it with context like you could with any other term but still.

Also I have to laugh at nuts, balls, cherry, prick and especially dick and ass.

Dick is a euphemism said when you want to talk about a certain body part but don't want to sound crude.

Ass is the same thing only it's used when you do want to sound crude.

And to be against both seems stupid as if they don't care about other people's feelings but really just want us to only use vocabulary that they feel comfortable with.

The rest of them are just euphenisms for body parts and if they really think they have negative connotations or need to be purged for the sake of ending predjudice they're hopelessly lost.

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What does "prick" mean though, other than "asshole"?

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it's a euphemism for a man's dick.

Although I've never heard beard be used for anything other than facial hair.

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...huh. learn something new everyday.

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I'd like to know what sites for gay gamers think of these ads. I could take a guess but it'd just be a guess and I don't want to insult them by saying 'I know what you should think of this'.

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Deleted content because I posted in the wrong spot, I hate that when I click "login" on someone's post it still points me to the bottom automatically. ><

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"That's so gay," is not an insult if it is not directed at a person or group.  There's this little thing called context.

Gay is a frakin homonym!!!  Uh-oh...that word has "homo" in it.  Better outlaw the use of that word as well.

So what word can we use for "uncool" or "stupid?"

Can't say gay....offends homosexuals.  Can't say lame...offends the physically disabled.  Can't say retarded...offends the mentally challenged. 

And to top if off, my niece (who is 5 by the way) told me I shouldn't use the word "stupid" at all because it is mean.

 

I'm just going to start sayin, "That's so beep."   You can fill in your own word of disgust at that point.  Too tired to deal with all these thought police morons....uh oh, is moron insulting?  Well I meant it as an insult so it should be!!!

 

 

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Good lord, our english language has no word to describe something we find:

Bad: 1: Not good in any manner or degree. 2:Inadequate or below standard. 3: Of inferior quality.

Inferior: Of comparativly low grade.

And the list goes on and on.

Yes you simply could not describe something as being bad, inferior, low quality, not fun, without using the word gay. That's totally IMPOSSIBLE. O.o

 

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Your use of the word "inferior" insults people with inferiority complexes.  That is a very serious psycholigical ailment, and it is very rude for you to use the term thusly.

Please cease using that word in that context, else you are merely propagating hate against those with self-esteem issues.

 

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An inferiority complex is by definition a problem in that person that makes them worse off then they could be. I don't think anyone would care about this issue if people were saying that's so gay to call something happy. Inferior has never meant anything good or positive about anyone.

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I was joking...sheesh.

My point is once people think they have a right to not be offended, language and free discourse itself is sacrificed.

The left will say, "Don't use the term libs, its derogatory towards liberals."

The right will say, "Don't use the term NeoCon, its derogatory towards conservatives."

And on and on and on...

Normally I never use a Slippery Slope argument such as this, but this is one of the few valid applications.  Once one group receives preferential treatment and earns the right to never have to be offended by terms they find offensive, every other group who can convince somebody they are in the minority is going to do the same.

 

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In that case we're all already screwed.

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Not if we can get over all this PC bull and actually start promoting the First Ammendment again. Of course, then someone's feelings might get hurt when someone has an opinion, so we obviously can't let that happen...

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First amendment only protects you from the GOVERNMENT preventing you from saying something. A non profit, a group, a club or an individual can decry you saying anything they want. Once again they aren't pushing some bill through congress, it's a friggin ad campaign designed to make you use your head before you open your mouth and spew a bunch of worthless crap that makes you look like an incompatent, intolerant, bigotted ass.

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Yes a private group can spew whatever crap they want. Of course, based on the reaction the campaign has garnered here, they're just making themselves look like a bunch of thin-skinned, reactionaries who have nothing better to do than protest a perceived slight. They're welcome to it, and props to them if they can get people to stop laughing at and/or ignoring their ridiculous posters.

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I do find the whole thing a bit... I don't know toothless. But sometimes it's nice to see someone trying to make this kind of a change without reverting to really nasty or insulting retorts (something I can't always even do myself.) I think it's something they wanted to do to make a point without actually insulting anyone so they made the insults a bit outlandish. Out of all the stuff on their website I think the most effective would be the 3rd commercial with the two cashiers, and even that is being polite. Though it's much more personal then the multi-word insults used for the other stuff so that is what I find to be slightly more effective.

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If you know what we mean, as in you know that you could just replace gay with some synonym for bad or stupid then why does it matter? Why do we need to change our exact wording and vocabulary? If someone doesn't like homosexuals then they will associate them with bad things, period. Doesn't matter what language they use and the only way to really change that is to change attitudes.

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Matthew Wilsonagain twitch was going to get bought. It was just who was going to buy it . Twitch was not even being able to handle the demand, so hey needed a company with allot of infrastructure to help them. I can understand why you would not want Google to buy it .07/24/2014 - 5:49pm
Andrew Eisen"Google is better than MS or Amazon" Wow. Google, as I mentioned earlier, progressively makes almost everything worse and yet there are still two lesser options. Again, wow!07/24/2014 - 5:43pm
Andrew EisenI don't know. MS, in my experience, is about 50/50 on its products. It's either fine or it's unusable crap. Amazon, well... I've never had a problem buying anything from them but I don't use any of their products or services so I couldn't really say.07/24/2014 - 5:42pm
Matthew WilsonGoogle is better than MS or Amazon.07/24/2014 - 5:33pm
Sleaker@AE - I've never seen youtube as a great portal to interact with people from a comment perspective. like ever. The whole interface doesn't really promote that.07/24/2014 - 5:28pm
Andrew EisenNor I. From a content producer's perspective, almost every change Google implements makes the service more cumbersome to use. It's why I set up a Facebook fan page in the first place; it was becoming too difficult to connect with my viewers on YouTube.07/24/2014 - 4:50pm
Sleakerwonder if anyone is going to try and compete with google, I'm not a huge fan of the way they manage their video services.07/24/2014 - 4:41pm
Andrew EisenIt happened. Google bought Twitch. http://venturebeat.com/2014/07/24/googles-1b-purchase-of-twitch-confirmed-joins-youtube-for-new-video-empire/07/24/2014 - 4:28pm
MaskedPixelanteI hope Nintendo actually follows through with the DS Virtual Console, that sounds like it could be cool.07/24/2014 - 2:15pm
james_fudgePeople don't deny it persay, they bristle at the idea that it's a "problem" that nneds to be "fixed."07/24/2014 - 2:15pm
Papa MidnightRacism and Misogny are heavily prevalent in the gaming and online arena. Getting people to actually admit that, however...07/24/2014 - 11:42am
Papa MidnightThat very thing is somthing that anyone who has been subjected to racial-based targeting online could actually state that they've experienced.07/24/2014 - 11:41am
Papa MidnightPerfect example: "I have yet to talk to a man who has had to call a police officer due to a stalker, only to be told nothing can be done until they are physically assaulted."07/24/2014 - 11:40am
 

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