Surveying the Use of Video Games as Propaganda

August 24, 2009 -

Bruce on Games takes a look at the video game as propaganda.

While blogger Bruce Everiss concludes that games have generally been ignored for propaganda purposes, he argues this is because government officials are basically old school types:

The reason we have been left alone is quite obvious. Games are just another media, albeit a technically superior media. But the people with all the power, the politicians and journalists, don’t realise this because mostly they just don’t understand video games at all. We see this in the way they blame video games for violence in society when the opposite is true. And now that ignorance is protecting video game players from propaganda.

GP: we're not so sure we agree, given that a new issue-oriented Flash game pops up about once a week on the web.

At any rate, Bruce has identified a list of propaganda games. Among others they include several PC mods produced by Islamic extremists, the Religious Right's Left Behind, and the Defense Department's controversial America's Army, of which Bruce is clearly not a fan:

America’s Army is the big one. A series of games designed to foster the American Army view of the world on an unsuspecting public and also to work as a recruitment tool. This has been a remarkable success at promoting gung ho American militarism.


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Re: Surveying the Use of Video Games as Propaganda

Wait, so that’s the only one you can use? How bout every single game out there with an open world that shows conservatives as evil people? Saints Row 1 and 2, Grand Theft Auto and any game out there?
 

But just like we will see Republican Flash games all over this site we will rarely or never seen one about a Democrat unless they have gone against the far left or who the far left wants in an office

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 Well i think generally, "propaganda" is seen as media that is designed with the specific aim and purpose of delivering a message and that's its ONLY purpose; as such the political message is hard, blunt and obvious...

Mainstream games and movies on the other hand are designed for the primary purpose of entertainment. Often times there isn't even an actual attempt at a message and they are merely doing what they feel will tell the most interesting story; i mean just because a game has an "evil corporation" doesn't mean the game was designed to say "all corporations are evil"... Any political message that is made for comes second to giving good entertainment, and as such tend to be more subtle. 

 

As for the conservatives vs liberals thing... well in my experience, i think artists have a tendency to be more liberal than conservative (or liberals, on average, have more of an interest in becomign artists), hence why you would see more anti-conservative political messages... i mean, why would there be an equal amount of anti-liberal propaganda if there are fewer conservative artists; it's common sense... If you want to see more of balance in the propaganda, then convince more conservatives to pursue more artistic careers. 

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Genreally why you have more libreal arists and more fou consertive business men.

 

Sorry but I see far more fou consertives than real ones these days.

 

I mean really I see far more neo cons pretneding to be consertive and find it insulting they can be called conservative. I don't mind the liberal bashing so much because its always been a open and lushy kind of thing.

 

I have just always seen conservative as far more moderate not ban abortion(compeltely),close the boarders,lower taxes on the weathly,rise taxes on everyone else,spend money for rich biasness interests but little on the people kind of deal.

 

TO me currently liberal can mean anything, conseritive really means moderate and moderate a left leaning hippcate who's not come out of the closet yet... I mean seriously theres only so much I can read into this sht before I wonder from what little world they come from and how I can destroy it completely so no other shallow whiney upper crust slob comes trolling out to get government aid because he's got the right kind of buddies in power.
/mega rant

 

PSrant:If the people got gov aid insted of the rich(and by rich I mean those in office and by aid I mean almost anything they get beyond security and thier salary) thigns would balance out...then again things like lobbying would be a crime becuse it builds momentum agisnt the people... you get rid of the insentives to work aginst the peoples intrest you get rid of most of the corruption in goverment...


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 Unfortunately, what you call moderate/actual conservative the republicans, the party that represents conservatives, practically call traitors. i mean they alienate any conservative who does not fall in line with the hard right wing beliefs, calling them RINO's or liberals in disguise. This in turn can make it hard for them to get elected, in certain states and on the national level... that was part of mccain's problem last year; he tried to put up a far right front, but the only ones he managed to convince he was far right were liberals and moderates...

when it comes down to it, the neo-cons seem to have the most strength in the party, and they use it to do what they can to push the moderates out. 

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It's the same thing on the Dem side.  The hardcore ones, led by Pelosi, Reid and Obama, pushed the more conservative ones away from their health care plan.  That's why they're worried about their 60 votes.  It's unclear whether or not they have it.  They think that they have 51 votes to use reconciliation, but they'd have to cut a lot of stuff out of the bill.

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Couldn't it also be that the more conservative democrats are in the pocket of the health insurance industry?  Isn't that more likely?

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Doc

It's rather easy to make conservatives out to be the bad guys as the harder they push for morals,ect the less they hold to those morals and the elss they hold thier peer group to them unless they can get soemthign from it.

"Liberals" by definition are more human thus its not so shocking they fail as much.

 


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Re: Surveying the Use of Video Games as Propaganda

What definition of human are you using?  "We need to steal money from people who earn it to give to people who didn't."  "We need to make the majority out to be evil so all the minorities can support us, even though all we're doing to them is breeding stereotypes."  "Any member of any minority that doesn't support us is to be publicly, verbally destroyed, regardless of whether or not they have a point."  "We need to pass laws so that the undeserving get what they want, just so they don't have to feel bad."

If that's the definition of being human, I'm glad I'm one of those evil conservatives.

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Wow gaiz I didn't mean to stick a beehive up yer arse....

 

Human=more failable

"Conservatives",republicans, right leaning moralists, however you want to call them tend to throw stones in glasses houses, and wonder why is it "snowing" glass.

Now don't get me wrong  I like my conservatives finically minded and my liberals to be open minded lushes, my point being your not going to find a happy balance with both parties leaning to exstemes because the sensationalism for the sake of vote mongering is too temping. Its bad enough we can write off whole sets of people with "bad words" like "Conservative" or "Liberal". I mean really have we improved any since Bush.co?... no, why?........... "meet the new boss....same as the old boss...".

The system is made to keep itself going by giving the appearance of change, we do get change but on a time scale our noble officials who reap from the public most say when it can happen and not a moment before.....  

 


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Re: Surveying the Use of Video Games as Propaganda

I imagine that the term "human" is focusing more on the idea of "showing compassion for your fellow". Conservatives, stereotypically, are often seen as the ones who bash upon other races, religions, sexualities and cultures... they seem to show little compassion to the poor or downtrodden and bed themselves with big business... and are often seen as warmongering

are these stereotypes... yes... and that's what it comes down to it. Not the facts of the matter, but public perception. And unfortunately, public perception is often based upon the LOUDEST voices, which have a tendency to paint those stereotypes as being atleast somewhat true. And it doesn't help that party loyalty tends to make it so that other "representatives" of the party follow lock and step behind the loudest voices and thus further the perception that they are all alike... and pushed even further by opponents who take advantage of the idiocy of those loud voices.

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Thank you for summing up my point exactly, instead of just assuming I'm some sort of hardcore Republican who wants to make war with any nation under the sun.

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Well what is your definition of being human then? All you did is use weasel words that take out the appeal of Zippy's definition of human, but you didn't present your own definition to contrast his.

Unless you can come up with an alternative to re-distributing money, that would reflect on the act of compassion to help out other people (and let's face it, money is the dominating factor that affects your quality of life) I won't eat my hat.

GameSnooper

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My definition of humanity involves encouraging charity work and charity donations to help those in need, versus punishing rich people for the apparent crime of being rich, due to the fact that charities do more to actually help those in need as compared to the federal government.  You know, since charities are generally non-profit and only work with the money they have, versus the federal government, with Medicare, Medicade and Social Security all supposed to be insolvent within thirty years at the best estimates.

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Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

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Encouraging charity is wrong.  Private charities are the dirty little secret of the so-called capitalist system.  The need for charities proves the system doesn't work.  In my view, anyone who gives to private charity is actively preventing meaningful social change.

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Because a person who portrays liberal policies as "stealing" and describes the poor as "undeserving" is so much more worthy of the label "human", right? I mean... right?

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I present to you one nail hit right on the head.

I mean if the conservatives want to shake their fist down from their ivory towers and wish a cancerous death upon anyone not "elite" enough to have health care such is their right to have such a philosophy.  But if that is the path you wish to take, then don't lament because people think you are evil fucks.  Rather revel in it.

I heard a story, though I'm not sure of it's authenticity, regarding Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb.  Babe asked Ty if he would play in a charity event for a children's hospital.  When Ty asked how much they would make for playing such a game Babe told him that as it would be charity they wouldn't make a dime.  So Ty Cobb responded "Fuck the children, I don't care if they live or die".  But never was there a story about him pleading for people to like him despite being a soulless monster.  Therefore I can at least give him a small amount of respect for being true to himself.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

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If conservatives only care about your so-called "elite," how come the American Red Cross and the IRS have repeatedly pointed out that conservatives put a lot more money into charity every year than liberals in this country?  I thought, according to you guys, that liberals care MORE for the poor, so shouldn't they be giving more money to charity?

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"If conservatives only care about your so-called "elite," how come the American Red Cross and the IRS have repeatedly pointed out that conservatives put a lot more money into charity every year than liberals in this country?"

Firstly, conservatives have the money.  Secondly, sometimes charity offers a neat way to dodge taxes.  Finally, conservatives need to prevent the government from providing social services, and propping up charities is a way to do that.

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And you see right there is why I can't respect your average right-wing republican.  Now if you would say "Health care should only be for those of us who can afford it.  If you can't then try not to die in my back yard."  Instead you bring up a tax write-off to continue some sort of charade of not being a bastard.

Bastards I can accept, people who lie to themselves I can't.

And besides, there has to be a better solution to these problems than slapping on them the band-aid of these impotent charities.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

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You mean like a government-operated handout program?  Like the ones we already have that will be insolvent within thirty years?  Yeah, that's gonna solve a lot of problems.

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Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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Yes, a government program that acually does something for it's tax paying citizens.  I know it's shocking that US citizens should get anything other than paying taxes and having traveling abroad become nearly impossible due to retarded cowboy diplomacy.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

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Uh, jee, maybe because charities are tax-deductible expenses. And some of the richest people are Republican. Take away the tax-deductible status, and I'm sure there are a few who wouldn't donate quite so much, if at all. Furthermore, the differences in wealth also plays a factor; it's easier to give more when you have more.

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Yeah, because Democrats aren't rich.  And you may be right about the tax deductable part, but charities will get even less money if we keep taxing the rich to pay for programs that will go insolvent in less than a hundred years.

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Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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And that's why I say we need true socialist programs. Honestly, I believe the reason they fail is because it such in our country are written by a capitalist system. It's essentially writing something that is against the majority political ideologies. Or as an example: a strong liberal writing something conservative, or vise versa. However, I do not believe we can be a true socialist country; we must have both socialism and capitalism.

Also, I never said Democrats were not rich. It's a matter of statistics and differences based on demographics of wealth.

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Well, you're still wrong, because if you look at the charity work of our elected government, overwhelmingly Democrat, there's still more money coming from conservatives.

True socialism can't work on a national scale.  It's simple human nature.  Everyone wants to make their livelihoods better.  There is no room for that in socialism.  It makes everyone live as a poor person, on the backs of the rich.  At least, with a capitalist society, everyone has the opportunity to become rich, if they try hard enough.

Besides, the answer to socialist programs putting our country in bankruptcy isn't more socialist programs to put us in bankruptcy.  It's answers like that that make people distrust the government on Obamacare.

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Freedom of speech means the freedom to say ANYTHING, so long as it is the truth. This does not exclude anything that might hurt someone's feelings.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

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Except apparently, I doubt if you even read what I said.

1. I just SAID that there was more money coming from Republicans, because, overall, their party tends to have higher wealth among individuals. And that while there are rich Democrats, Republicans tend to hold the richest people.

2. I just said that there cannot be a true socialism and that we should have a hybrid system of socialism AND capitalism.

And 3, part of the problem is the programs we have now are terribly broken, because I think, as I just said, they are written by an opposing political ideology. And no, that is not why people distrust Obama's health care plan. It's because you have prominent Republicans spreading obvious falsities to scare them shitless.

So thanks for saying I'm wrong then reaffirming what I just said. Great job!

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By Human Definition its obvious hes making a reference to how the far right preach and scream about morality yet they fail at it so when they fail its a huge hit to their movement where as liberals don't usually push the mightier then god stance and so when they fail people are more accepting.

But you might have got that if you hadn't jumped on the they are attacking me platform.

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Another instance of you seeing what you want to see. There have been plenty of flash games shown here that cover Democrats, but you won't talk about them because it doesn't support your agenda.

I find it hard to comment on these sorts of things though, because the whole concept is so alien to me. There is nothing like this animosity between Republicans and Democrats in Canada. I can't understand it. I guess it's what comes from a two party system? I'm not sure. 

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Conservatives ARE evil people.  They just don't know it.

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So are liberals.  They just don't care.

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You don't have much of a sense of humor do you?

 

It's called parody.

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"...we will rarely or never seen one about a Democrat unless they have gone against the far left or who the far left wants in an office"

Not true.  Do a quick search and you'll find flash games covering republicans, democrats, and both.  There is no political agenda here.  There are too many politically-themed flash games to report on them all but even so, if you know of a specific game we haven't covered, forward a link to GP.

 

Andrew Eisen

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"albeit a technically superior media." lul wat?

Mabye for drunken frat boys but games have yet to stabilize on the same level of film.... well...then again with all the bland placated realisms in gaming these days it has......


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