Game Parody of Obama School Speech Controversy a Poor Choice for September 11th

September 11, 2009 -

This week's controversy over President Obama's speech to America's school children has morphed into a rather unfortunate online game.

Obama's School Camp comes from Scottish firm T-Enterprise, which often mocks political issues with their Friday game offerings. Today's game challenges players to press letters on their keyboards which correspond to paper airplanes floating toward an animation of the President. Press the right letter quickly enough and the paper airplane disappears. Otherwise, it strikes the Obama character.

The paper airplane imagery seems to be an especially poor choice for a game published today, September 11th. It seems an even worse decision given that the game comes from T-Enterprise, which was the firm behind the now-canceled Rendition: Guantanamo project. A consultant to that game was alleged to have ties to Al Qaeda and the Taliban.


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This is a bit misleading.  North Korea does make nuclear power, but they do so to use the byproducts for the development of nuclear weapons.  They've admitted this.  Iran just makes the weapons outright.  As far as us "meddling" is concerned, this is again because the UN won't enforce the laws it passes.  By international law, the only nations allowed to have nuclear weapons are the US, Russia, China, Israel and Britain.  All other nations are in direct violation of international laws and UN resolutions.  However, with this as all else, the UN is just too much of a broken and corrupt organization to do anything about it.  If the US can't or won't, who will?

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 Well i imagine one of the reasons the UN can't take action is that enforcing the law generally requires evidence of the crime being committed. Unless you have proof, all accusations about trying to obtain nuklear weapons is just that, accusations. The most you can really do with accusations is do an investigation to see if it are true; i think i recall that the UN has done what they can in those terms and have not found evidence. And when it comes down to it, to punish people with no actual evidence of a crime WOULD actually be a form of corruption in and of itself... really what you should be asking is that the UN should be function MORE like other corrupted organization; that way it could ignore due process and the need of actual evidence, to do what "must" be done. Granted this ofcourse would lead to accusations that the UN is corrupt, that they are treating countries unfairly and thus gain scorn by a good amount of the world and earn even more enemies and possibly loose some support to those that once looked kindly upon it... afterall, the reason we need evidence is because without it, there is always atleast a miniscule chance we are wrong and thus delivered an unfair punishment, created more hatred, and actually helped lend credence to what many in the middle east say about us. 

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Iran and N. Korea have admitted to be actively pursuing nuclear weapons.  The only evidence that would be stronger would result in the deaths of thousands, if not millions.

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THe US cannot afford to be the world police wihtout the UN paying for it.

Sorry but the US dose not have to do it as things will natraully balance out without such a high level of interferance.


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Nuking Japan was not an atrocity, it was Karma.

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By that same logic

9/11 was karma


I am a critical thinker not a dumb ass inbred conservative or a jackass liberal

Pedophiles are the new Nazi / Communist. Labeling someone a Pedophile will get them blacklisted even though there is no evidence.

Murder is not a crime when done in self defense, a time of war, or when done by court order (death penalty). People cry murder when fetus are aborted. How about when the mother could die? The mother is 13 years old? The mother was raped? The child is a product of incest? Is foster care really the best answer for children who's parents cant take of them? How many children actually end up in foster care when their parents are dead beats?

A 14 year old is child when they have sex but is an adult when they commit murder?

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I can agree with that we have been unrealistic and at times stupid dealing with the middle east, what little we lost on 911 is eqaul to what we have tried to do in the middle east since the 30's.


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By anyone saying anything is Karma, that implies something was done to equal it out.  The argument that Hiroshima and Nagasaki was Karma has some merit, as it was an attack on Pearl Harbor that started the war for the US, and it continued in a very brutal and bloody fashion throughout the Pacific until Okinawa was taken by the US.  Japan still didn't want to outright surrender, and, regardless of what you may think of the nukes, the results of a US invasion of Japan would have been much bloodier, and have many more civilian casualties.

What did the US do to deserve 9/11, other than believe Israel had a right to exist as a nation?

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Karma is GENERICALLY defined as "what goes around comes around" it does not necessarly mean that the same entity will return "the action" but that actions will return back.

But lets see there is

1953 Coup d'etat of Iran

1963 Iraqi Coup d'etat

1954 Guatemalan Coup d'état

My Lai Massacre

Japanese Internment Camps

Augusto Pinochet And the CIA

Philppe-Jean Bunau Varilla, Panama Canal, and Teddy Roosevelt

Native American Massacres

Canicattì massacre

Biscari massacre

Dachau massacre

Salina, Utah POW massacre

Rheinwiesenlager

American Mutilation of Japanese War Dead

etc

etc

etc


I am a critical thinker not a dumb ass inbred conservative or a jackass liberal

Pedophiles are the new Nazi / Communist. Labeling someone a Pedophile will get them blacklisted even though there is no evidence.

Murder is not a crime when done in self defense, a time of war, or when done by court order (death penalty). People cry murder when fetus are aborted. How about when the mother could die? The mother is 13 years old? The mother was raped? The child is a product of incest? Is foster care really the best answer for children who's parents cant take of them? How many children actually end up in foster care when their parents are dead beats?

A 14 year old is child when they have sex but is an adult when they commit murder?

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Yeah, because Islamic military organizations, Islamic terrorists, or even Islamic Sharia law hasn't done anything like that.

Oh, wait, kidnapping and beheading of civilians just for being American, mutilating of female genitalia because they don't want them to become whores, preventing women from attending schools, treating women as property, killing Jews for being Jews, muslim political leaders gassing their own citizens, selling food and medicine meant for citizens so that the military has more weapons...

But you're right, America's at fault for all of this too, right?

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You are a dumb ass. Pure dumb ass. I gave a ton of links to read of what americans did and yet come back with this? Go read the links first you will see the atrocities that Amerca has done some are on par or worst than what you have stated.

I did not say it was America's Fault, I said it was Karma, Their is a big difference, but a idiot like you would not understand the difference.


I am a critical thinker not a dumb ass inbred conservative or a jackass liberal

Pedophiles are the new Nazi / Communist. Labeling someone a Pedophile will get them blacklisted even though there is no evidence.

Murder is not a crime when done in self defense, a time of war, or when done by court order (death penalty). People cry murder when fetus are aborted. How about when the mother could die? The mother is 13 years old? The mother was raped? The child is a product of incest? Is foster care really the best answer for children who's parents cant take of them? How many children actually end up in foster care when their parents are dead beats?

A 14 year old is child when they have sex but is an adult when they commit murder?

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I know what we have done.  I looked at the links.  I watch the History channel.  What you fail to grasp is that none of this has ever been disputed.  Amends have been made for all of this in one form or another.  You are the dumbass for thinking that 6000 innocent people deserved to die because of Japanese internment camps.

Those people died because a crazy guy doesn't like that we support Israel.  End of story.

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Where did I say 6000 people deserved to die? Citation needed.

Is your reading level at a kidnergarden level? Did u you not read the posts above how karma is defined?

Good god you are just proving how stupid you really are. 


I am a critical thinker not a dumb ass inbred conservative or a jackass liberal 

Pedophiles are the new Nazi / Communist. Labeling someone a Pedophile will get them blacklisted even though there is no evidence. 

Murder is not a crime when done in self defense, a time of war, or when done by court order (death penalty). People cry murder when fetus are aborted. How about when the mother could die? The mother is 13 years old? The mother was raped? The child is a product of incest? Is foster care really the best answer for children who's parents cant take of them? How many children actually end up in foster care when their parents are dead beats? 

A 14 year old is child when they have sex but is an adult when they commit murder?

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The fact that you linked it in support of your karma argument says you did.  Your entire premise that what goes around, comes around means that you feel that everything you linked is karmically related to 9/11.  That is what started this debate, right?  Jedi's and your comments about 9/11?

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Nope I m was arguing that if you the logic that dropping nukes on Japan was Karma, by that same logic 9/11 was karma.  I only linked articles about what America has done that could be used as evidence that 9/11 was karma. I did not say that they did deserve to die or that it WAS Karma, notice the words BY THAT LOGIC, I was saying it could be argued that way and here is some evidence.


I am a critical thinker not a dumb ass inbred conservative or a jackass liberal 

Pedophiles are the new Nazi / Communist. Labeling someone a Pedophile will get them blacklisted even though there is no evidence. 

Murder is not a crime when done in self defense, a time of war, or when done by court order (death penalty). People cry murder when fetus are aborted. How about when the mother could die? The mother is 13 years old? The mother was raped? The child is a product of incest? Is foster care really the best answer for children who's parents cant take of them? How many children actually end up in foster care when their parents are dead beats? 

A 14 year old is child when they have sex but is an adult when they commit murder?

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Until now, you didn't use the phrase "by that logic."

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Yes he did, scroll up it's not that far

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

There have always been motherf*ckers, there will always be motherf*ckers, but what we can't do is let them control our motherf*cking lives. -John Oliver, December 1st, 2008

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 Well Karma does not really need to apply to a direct retaliation... karma refers to the universe giving you your just deserts based on your past actions; as such who delivers the karma is irrelevant... For instance a criminal manages to get away with injuring and handicapping someone; a month later he's struck by a random car and paralyzed; he still didn't pay for his crime, but his smack down was karma...

In this case, saying that 9/11 was a form of karma could mean to say as the universe's response for America's past deeds even if those deeds were irrelevant to what actually caused 9/11... For this we can bring up a second bombing in japan that might have been avoided with more negotiation; overthrowing Iran's democracy to put in a western friendly dictator; or perhaps helping Sadam rise to power in Iraq in the first place; Or maybe tolerating cruel regimes that we benefit from... 

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As for your comment on the second bombing, nobody wanted to "negotiate."  To say that's America's fault proves you're an idiot.  Iran lost their "western-friendly" dictator right quick, and the UN wouldn't do anything about Saddam either, but nobody attacked them.  Come to think about it, neither did France, England, Spain, Germany, Holland, or any other nation on this planet.  As far as your last sentance, when we go after cruel regimes we don't benefit from, people like you claim it's racism and warmongering.  Are you saying we should go after cruel regimes we do benefit from, but leave the ones we don't benefit from alone?  I don't get that.

Also, if you're going to try to equate killing innocent civilians to karma over political policy executed by uniformed military personnel, then I say that Israel should gather up 6 million German citizens and burn them in a vat of acid.  I suggest they get hundreds of thousands of Egyptian citizens and have them build giant pyramids.  I suggest they also put bombs on busses that Palestinian women and children ride and call it "retaliation."

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The 2nd nuke was indeed an atrocity.

After the first bomb, Japan said they would surrender if their emperor would not be charged with war crimes, as the most important person in Japan was the emperor. America said "lol, nope. Unconditional surrender or else." Japan only wanted that ONE condition, and America said "screw you" and killed (hundreds of?) thousands more people than was necessary. Want to know the worst part of it all? We didn't even capture the emperor. We let him go without charging war crimes or taking him prisoner. We did what Japan wanted all along but only after we got to nuke them again.

The first bomb, yes, I agree was not an atrocity. But the 2nd was completely uncalled for and unnecessary. We wanted an unconditional surrender but when they wanted 1 small condition we refused, then upheld that condition anyways.

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Actually, chada, I think Japan was starting to consider surrender two weeks before the first bomb was dropped; they just didn't get out the message in time. I'm not too sure, though, so don't take my words as chiseled in stone.

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Actually, you and the poster above you are both wrong.  The Japanese never considered surrendering.  They had multiple chances to, as after Iwo Jima, it was really all down hill for them.  After taking Okinawa, we made overtures to peace talks.  They balked.  Plans were put into place to invade the mainland, knowing more civillians and military personnel would have died as compared to both nukes.  After the first one was dropped on Hiroshima, Truman pleaded with them to surrender.  They said no.  Two days later, Nagasaki was attacked.  Truman again pleaded for surrender.  Emperor Hirohito actually had to think about that.

So, how is this an "atrocity commited by the US," when many overtures for ending were offered by the US and turned down, and when the only other military option would have resulted in more innocent people dying?

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Actually that does not make what

 

. Countries like to put in conditions before they surrender so that the conquering heroes don't horribly screw them over.

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You're right on the first point, but the second is incorrect on one detail.  Yes, after the first nuke, we still demanded an unconditional surrender.  The Japanese wanted more than just the ability to keep their title, they also wanted to keep all of their Asian imperial holdings, and the ability to keep their military battle-ready.  After this was rejected, primarily because of the battle-ready military thing, they announced that the Kamikaze raids would only increase, and that citizens themselves would be armed and sent into Okinawa en masse.  Thus, Nagasaki was born.  Afterwards, Hirohito consented to disarmament for 100 years and American occupation, and America consented to allowing the title of Emperor to be maintained and giving back some of the territories that Japan had held in the South Pacific that America had taken.  The second nuke wasn't a result of Americas unwillingness to bend.  It was a result of the unwillingness to bend by both the US and Japan.  The only difference between the two was the US had the upper hand and demonstrated so.  Japan still didn't want to budge very far.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrender_of_Japan#Potsdam_Declaration

And then the bomb part farther down.

The Japanese big guys (the Big Six) didn't even meet to discuss the atomic bomb until over 2 days later. 7-8 hours before the 2nd bomb. Although you are right, only 2/6 of the Big Six wanted an unconditional surrender (except with the Emperor's spot guarenteed). Then, after Nagasaki, the council was split 3-3, with half wanting to surrender (but with Emperor's spot guarenteed) and the other half wanting to also have no Allied occupation and to allow Japan to do their own disarmament and punishing of war criminals, along with the Emperor's protection.

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Okay, but none of that supports the idea that nuking Japan was in any way an attrocity, especially when compared to an invasion of Japan.

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Are you FRIGGIN KIDDING ME!?! Nuking ANYONE is an atrocity! Dude just stop posting, you can't seem to stem the stupid coming out of your mouth.

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Nukes are an atrocity, but the invasion, that would have killed way more people, including civillians, wouldn't have been?

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I agree with you there. I still don't know if using both bombs was necessary, but it sure beat trying an actual invasion. I would've tried an "intimidation" tactic, detonating the bomb just out of range of the emperor's palace. To show "hey, look what we can do. Now give up," but without killing lots of civilians.

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There was no place on Japan that such a display would have been effective AND wouldn't have killed a ton of people.

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Not really since sending in troops would have been as worse if not more so than firebombing would have done and resulted in the same end result.  Japan was in a religious furor over their god empower and would have easily deafened him and their honor as a society until the least bits of the population. Sadly regardless of anyhting the end result would have been as horrific.

 

Now with that said I'll take pre war japan over current US any day of the week! :P


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Just putting my view in here. Nuking anyone is an atrocity. That said, it was probably the most efficient way to end the war and I really don't hold it against them. Just because something is an atrocity doesn't mean that you have to disagree with it.

I think with the way Japan was unwilling to surrender, any way of ending the war would have been an atrocity.

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Ah i see, Now THAT's what you should have said before when you said

... considering the attack came 2 days later, i'd imagine it would be that polarizing... Frankly i find that the imperial holdings were out of the question, but i would see some willingness to bend on keeping their military (though not as full); i mean while we would not want to see them attack anyone again, i'd accept their right to be ready to defend themselves... better they defend themselves then having ourselves need to come in and use our own soldiers lives and spend money on the military

 

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The link that I posted below this one has all of the information about the Japanese surrender. It's really long and contains a lot of stuff that I didn't know about. Also some errors on jedi's part too.

Really good read too, I recommend it.

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You are actually right, they were firebombed before the nukes, the firebombs had the same result as a nuke, but on their culture surrendering is coewering, so they were planning a negotiation with the US, probably they would offer something in return of oil.

But you know... "we don't negotiate with terrorists"

 

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You know why we don't negotiate with terrorists?  The general reason is that all it would take for somebody to get whatever they wanted is to kidnap someone or threaten to blow up a building.  No government could operate if they had to worry about that every day.  As far as Islamic radicals, all they want is to kill Jews.  They've never budged on this.  You can't seriously be advocating killing Jews to appease some psycho, are you?

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I don't ever expected to see a narrow vision like that from you.

No, terrorsts don't want to "kill Jews"

First, terrorists according to Tom Clancy (a definition that I agree), are just people in a undeclared war. In fact, now that the US declared "war on terror" they ironically made terrorists into warriors, and not terrorists.

So, we have all sorts of terrorists, we have freedom fighters (I am certain the the US people that died fighting England to achieve indenpendence were called terrorists too), we have extremists, mad people, sane people...

So, let's focus on the anti-US terrorists. These are in fact, really pissed at US, it is not "unprovoked" as some people say, unfortunally each action on the "war on terrorism" make more people mad than it actually make something peacefull, these don't want to "kill jews"

Then we have the terrorists fighting Isreal. Here I don't call it terrorism, it is open war, territorial war that is, both sides want a territory, both have their reasons, and it is not clear who is right or wrong, accusing any side of being "wrong" is wrong in itself, from a islamic viewpoint, the jews are invasors in their territory, and defending them is defending evil psycho people. And from the Jew viewpoint, the islamic people are illegal settlers on their holy promised land by God himself, they believe that the islamic warriors are evil psycho terrorists. In the end both sides are only that, two sides fighting for a territory, neither are wrong (and neither are right).

 

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Apparently, someone needs a history lesson on the war between Muslims and Jews.  About 3000 years ago, Jews left a life of servitude in Egypt to start their own lives.  They eventually settled in what we now call Jerusalem.  About a millenia later, Mohammed made the claim to be a prophet of God, and started Islam.  This teaching spread to the east, until it gained a foothold in the Turkish empire.  Not too long after, the Turks laid claim to Jerusalem, it being a holy city and all.  They killed and enslaved many people to get it, and sent Jews away.  Flash forward to the late 1940's.  America, Britain and Russia destroy the Nazi war machine and free Jews.  These Jews are free to go wherever they wish, but their homes still won't take them back, due to lingering resentment of Jews caused by Hitler.  As such, one of the first actions that the UN takes, on the behest of the US, is to launch a military campaign in the Middle East to give the Jews Israel back.  This, and the continued support of Israel by America, is the reason for anti-American sentiment in the Middle East.  With the exception of the Barbary Pirates wars in the late 1800's, and military measures in defense of Israel, this is the only "meddling" in the Middle East the US has done.

Considering the comments of the Presidents of both Iran and Palestine (Israel and the Jews should be wiped from history), and the fact that archeological findings that prove my little history lesson are called lies by a lot of Muslim nations, to simply say that Israel is involved in a "border dispute" is just outright moronic.

As for your comment on the American Revolution, yes there were more than a few British that may have considered our tactics that way, but we had a lot of international support, and didn't kill civillians.  How much of that can be said about al-Queda?

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Like I said, that is the Jew viewpoint.

 

From the arab viewpoint Rome drove the Jews away and they settled in their place, then UN started to give support to Jews invade them back.

I don't say that I disagree with any sides (in fact, I am a christian and I am biased toward the jew side most of the time), but I see that both sides believe that they have  a point, saying that one or other is evil, or that all terrorists want to kill jews, is a dangerous oversimplification.

 

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Name one Middle-Eastern terrorist organization that doesn't care about Israel.

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I, uhh, don't think he said a thing about Terrorists NOT caring about Israel. He just said that that wasn't all they cared about.. In fact, the BULK of his comment was how there are differing perspectives between Us, Israel, and Middle Eastern people. (Which, by the way, is a very, very accurate point.) We all think everyone else is Evil, or the Devil, and see in Black and White, when, in fact, there are many shades of gray involved.

Then again, I have come to expect this level of illiteracy from the likes of you, Jedi. JDKJ is spot on when he calls you JediTheBonoboMonkey.

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And I've come to expect this kind of historical inaccuracy from you.  The arab "viewpoint" is incorrect.  They drove the jews out.  Every time an archeological dig proves this, they claim that the archaeologists are infadels.  Explain to me how that can possibly be considered a valid viewpoint?  And allow me to rephrase the question, as you are semantically correct:  Name one Islamic terrorist that has not made comments about wanting the nation of Israel destroyed.

(I'm guessing by the fact that you danced around my question with semantics, you can't.)

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Oh, and for the record, I think that the world would be a lot less unstable if Israel didn't exist. Any country based solely on one religion is generally a bad idea. I also think that, as I'm sure you can tell from my other post, that I think that Palenstinians have a right to say that Israel shouldn't exist (it shouldn't, the but UN made it so). As for other Muslims...eh, you don't have to be Muslim to hate Israel for all of their bullshit and the way America bends over for them.

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Okay, now explain Muslims trying to rewrite history by claiming the Jews were never there to begin with, and by arguing with science to do so?  I mean, isn't disavowing of science to protect a belief being pushed by the higher-ups in a religion something you guys blame on Christians?

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Don't forget that the USA was stolen from Native Americans. If the UN decided to give a large chunk of the US to native americans, I can bet that you (along with 99% of Americans) would find it unfair because we took that land hundreds of years ago. And you think that something that happened THOUSANDS of years ago has any relavence to what happened in the 1940s? In the 1940s, Palestine was a land owned by Britain. It was mostly muslim (I think about 60-70%) but also a fair chunk jewish (like 20% max), and they GOT ALONG PRETTY WELL. Then, the  UN decides to take well over half of the province and give it to the Jews who only occupied up to 20% of the land. So, palestinians (the muslim ones) fight back but get their asses handed to them, and then Israel steals some more land. This continues to happen all the way until today. Hamas has stated that if Israel would go back to (either the 1947 or 1967) treaty and follow those land boundaries, Hamas would stop attacking. Hell, Hamas isn't even a terrorist group, they're just trying to get land back that was rightfully theirs less than 80 years ago. Honestly, I'd say that Israel is more at fault. Here, I'll link to some Times Online articles that show some of the things the Israeli military has done to civilians in Gaza.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5962905.ece

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5480440.ece

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5939611.ece

The sad part is, you most likely won't even read these articles. The Israeli military is doing things that are far worse than anything Hamas has ever done, and you don't even care. Here's a quote straight from an Israeli soldier: "That’s the beauty of Gaza. You see a man walking, he doesn’t have to have a weapon, and you can shoot him.”

I'd say that those are the real terrorists, the ones that kill innocent men, women, and children, but that's beyong terrorism. It's cold-blooded murder just for sport.

http://www.friendsofsabeel.org.uk/images/Israel-Palestine_maps.jpg

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The US wasn't stolen from Natives.  It was taken by force.  Something you advocate Muslims doing to the Jews.  Something they already did.  The only difference is they did it, and do it to this day, for nothing more than religious resaons, something liberals abhorr.

Israel tried to abide by those treatys.  As they left, Hamas launched RPGs at people.  This happened just a year ago.  So nice try.

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So, how would you have ended WWII?

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My cat's birthday is today. I'm not going to have this day ruined because somebody is crapping their pants over paper airplanes. Who the fuck cares if its some Al-Queda connected douchebag trying to push people's buttons? If something like this draws in the waaaah-mbulance, I'd hate to see something people would REALLY be offended over- say, like (as others above have suggested) using flight simulator to recreate the entire scenario.

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"My cat's birthday is today. I'm not going to have this day ruined because somebody is crapping their pants over paper airplanes."

Am I the only person who couldn't help but chuckle at this statement? Not that I disagree with you, but.. Overdramatizing, much?

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Screw you- my cat is awesome. =P

 
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