Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting Headline?

Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting Headline?

September 17, 2009

Two stories on the Salisbury Post website detail the unfortunate shooting death of a 20-year old man Salisbury, North Carolina man at the hands of his younger brother.

While one of the stories details the incident under the headline “Brother Charged After Fatal Shooting,” a second story, time stamped with the exact same information as the first, runs down the story under the headline “Fatal Shooting May Be Related to Video Game.”

While “hanging out and playing video games,” 19-year old Bobby Jonathan Chambers apparently put a gun to his brother’s head. He removed the clip, but failed to realize that a bullet still resided in the chamber and shot Elbert Leon Chambers III fatally. Both Chambers men had been arrested and convicted previously for “various felonies.”

The second article states within:

Police believe a Salisbury teen fatally shot his brother while mimicking actions on a video game.


A few comments on the article take the reporter to task for linking the shooting to video games, given that the brothers were on a police list of known gang members.

Thanks to GamePolitics reader L. Ray for pointing us to this story.

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Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

Yeah because clearly being game members had no bearing on the shooting, but videos games is awhole other thing. I wonder if Fox News own this sad newspaper.

http://www.magicinkgaming.com/

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

In other news, water is wet, the sky is blue, and the sun rises in the east every morning

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...
My, doesn't that sound familiar! Pulls out the clip and forgets to clear the chamber. Classic. Oh, and it wouldn't have happened if it weren't for games. Because that's where guns originated.
Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

So it's the video game's fault for not teaching the kid how to unload the gun properly?

How many times have we heard a similar story with 'I thought the gun was unloaded'? That's why it's common safety to never point a gun at anything unless you intend to shoot it.

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Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

The victim was shot twice. He didn't unload the gun at all.

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

So what game has you shooting at people with unloaded guns?

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

So the fact that they were both felons who probably had a stolen or illegal gun, and were committing a felony by the sheer fact that they were handling the weapon, means nothing.

It was the games.

 

Lets also not forget that he was shot twice, not once. Which is impossible to do with any gun I've ever seen.

 

Also, it's a magazine, not a clip.

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

Oops. I stand corrected. Thanks. "Magazine."

Thing is both articles were done by the same reporter. The first one sounds professional, stating just facts. The second one (done at the same time) starts throwing in the sensationalism.

Can we rely on anything this guy says?

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

My guess is that he wrote the first article, then his editor said "Not enough hits, make it more sensational!"

-Gray17

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

 Oh, the irony of their last name is killing me...

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

"Fatal Shooting May Be Related to Video Game."

Using substitution and reduction, it becomes

"Relatively rare event may be related to very common item."

Where is the science behind that?

GameSnooper

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

Makes me wonder why the gun was loaded in the first place. Isn't it illegal to have a loaded gun when in storage.

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

No.

Also it wasn't in storage.

It was also illegal for him to have the gun in the first place.

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

Ah you refer to the bit about him being a felon and not being allowed to own or carry a gun?

If someone is willing to do such things as become a felon then breaking laws after that point seems easy.  And since you can always blaim it on anything else expect the true cause.  Gods forbid we hurt the feelings of a what should be a social outcast.

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

The earth was turning when one shot the other.  I blame the terrestrial day/night cycle.

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

“Fatal Shooting May Be Related to Tiny Monkey Fetuses In Brain.”

Hmm, it doesn't have quite the same pizazz, but it has the same amount of scientific evidence behind it.

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

Darwin 1, brothers 0.

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

Wow, one convicted felon and gang member ends up shooting another one, and they blame the video games? They probably need a better headling than "one gang member shoots another gang member" since no one would bother reading that.

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

Ah hah! See how the news does it? Originally, they claimed that the Trey was shot in the head and upper body. After the shots, many people fled the house, as reported by a witness. Now, they're throwing the video game thing into pot and suddenly it's "One shot to the head" with just the two brothers messing around. God, they're just tryin' their damndest to put us out of our culture aren't they?

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

so the guy shot his brother in the head not realising there was a bullet in the chamber (bad choice of word considering) then when the gun was DEFINITELY empty he for some reason reloaded and shot his brother again ...

yeah that was an accident its really easy to do his hand mustve slipped or something the guy is tottally innocent

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

If they are going to look for something else to blame, why not blame the Marines? After all, there was a recent story about the 'Do you trust me?' game where more or less exactly the same thing happened?

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

All you people are far too quick to defend video games. Obviously this had nothing to do with their being gang members, because this happened on their day off of gang-work. 

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I can almost understand and forgive people theorizing a link between a shooting death and video games, when there are younger people involved. (Although even kids aren't given enough credit)

But this man, besides being a gang member, is nineteen freaking years old. I think he knew a little ****ing better than to 'mimic actions taken in a video game,' don't you? -.-

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

You know by linking to any articles that blame video games for something like this you are only driving up page views and ensuring this angle will be played up again and again, right? Just wanted to make sure.

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

Let me get this straight.

1. Takes out the magazine, but leaves 1 bullet in the chamber.

2. Mimes shooting brother in the head with a gun he believes was empty.

3. Brother gets shot TWICE.

No way. It was either a loaded weapon straight up and given the age of the suspect, obviously intentional.

OR

He has a magic handgun that has infinite ammo.

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

That's how it was video game related! He was using an infinite ammo cheat!

It all makes sense now.


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Looks like I have to agree with Tyler.  It all make sense, the guy entered the infinite ammo cheat in real life.  that's how it happened.  I wonder if I can do a god mode in real life, thay means I'll never die ever.

 

Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

Chock this one up to Natural Selection, not video games.  Stupid is as stupid does...


Re: Newspaper Crying Wolf with Video Game Related Shooting ...

Just to update this story, the Salisbury Post released yet another article with the same information, but with a different wording implying the same videogame-shooting connection "Video game may have prompted Horah Street shooting death": www.salisburypost.com/Area/091809-cops-follo-on-Chambers-shooting, as well as an editorial "Life-or-death decisions" where a single line, "But it would trivialize this death to view it simply as the result of one abysmally bad choice motivated, in some way, by images on a computer screen" is used to even combat the prior nonsense and much time is spent on the gang angle/need to work with local anti-gang initiatives: www.salisburypost.com/Opinion/091809-edit-teen-shooting .

Edit They printed my letter to the editor Sunday, though not 100% as it was submitted.

Their editorial on Friday mostly focused on the anti-gang initiatives sadly, with not as much mention of other local organizations, or more parental involvement. I know from working with some of the youth in this area who are involved in some of these gangs, that that's not going to do the trick alone. I was in court during misc juvenile trials of at least one of the youth involved in this shooting as far as I can recall.  The many organizations who get dealt the problem cases that the courts have not yet turned over into adult offenders need money to do more (often dispensed to them from agencies like The United Way and state dollars), but most importantly, they need volunteers. But before those problem cases even hit the radar screen, or even start getting into trouble, parents need to be more involved in these youth's lives.

Yes, some of the kids in the programs have everything, including parents who try their best but fail to reach them. However, many of them come from seriously fractured situations where no one really gets the job done, laying any sort of groundwork, let alone example for them to follow. The parents of some youth even end up in court for fighting amongst themselves, ongoing fueds going on for generations. Fail.

The peanut gallery blames games and any number of other things for what society can fix, with efforts on what matters. Society being individuals doing the right thing on a day to day basis, not giving up because they are tired and lazy. Maybe it would be easier if some people's jobs didn't suck so badly, or they didn't have their time filled already, but even in the best cases some parents and guardians don't make any proactive effort to develop anything other than damaged youth on a rampage. Some of us get this and do our parts, while others don't and ruin it for the rest of us.

No, this was not my letter. This was a tangent fueled by coffee and an inability to fathom the depths of scapegoating madness hitting so close to home.

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