China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

September 22, 2009 -

Fighting an attempt to open media distribution within its borders, China is appealing a World Trade Organization ruling against it, citing a necessity to protect its “public morals.”
 
The defense comes in reaction to a WTO ruling that China must cease routing U.S.-based artists and production companies through state-controlled distributors. The Wall Street Journal notes that, if implemented, such a ruling would “be a boon to Western makers of movies, music and video games who currently face extra costs and obstructions to distribute in China.”

The article notes that the “public moral” defense has been used only once before, by the U.S. in 2005, as part of an unsuccessful attempt to defend a ban on Internet gambling. Any country using the defense must prove that trade restrictions are essential to protecting its morals.

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Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

Are these "morals" they speak of the (you must kill yourself to spare your family shame) kind of morals? Or are they actually (soiciological interaction with my fellow citizens) morals? Cause theres a big difference in those...

Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

Um... that sort of statement is somewhat racist and just shows how ignorant the average American is of Asian culture.

It's like the common Eastern perception that Americans are nothing but trigger happy assholes who are little more than barbarians who shoot anyone they don't like.

Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

You sayin we're not? *reaches for imaginary gun*

Just because it's a generalization doesn't mean it can't be true for some of them. We might be in a 'new age' but that doesn't mean there arn't people with an 'antiquated mindset'.

Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

I am going to use the Liberal Democratic reasoning for once. We should not as foreigners trying to impose our culture onto a culture is different and they don’t want the same kind of Government as us.

That said, China has a right to protect their culture and moral values. The WTO treaty only wishes to push European Socialist views onto China and they have done so with the DMCA to where our Law Makers approved a treaty which goes around out Constitution.

The WTO should not have the right to push their European Socialist Liberal Values on any country and even though China is now the number 1 Super power said Obama has put most of our debt and currency into China it doesn’t mean they are going to act the same way as the United States and act apathetic and let other cultures tell us how to act.

Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

Well get yer guns and go to war, other bend over the probeing. Thats pretty much the chice we have koolaid head...

 

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Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

Heh, public morals meaning the morals the government applies to everyone else. They just assume they don't need to ask any of their actual citizens.

Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

It's a communist government. They don't have to ask.

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Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

Remember the WTO used a treaty to go around our laws to impose the DMCA, I agree with China here and I wish our corrupt politicians put up more of a fight to the WTO to preserve our laws.

Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

I wish our noble class would put up more of a fight over the contusion ...the DMCA is illict POS.......


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Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

Wow....... always amusing to see a and/if/but defense when they have done it all and more ,to cry foul when someone else dose on the scale of such gaudy righteous indignation that the angels of heaven them selfs that all that is holy holy pure and true can not be held to so high a standard.


/red dwarf


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Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

Red Dwarf?

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Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

Yes Red Dwarf, smeg head!


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Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

But none of what you said had anything to do with Red Dwarf!

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Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

could it have been one of the books?

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

Oy I am trying to do a ridiculous insulting comment in my...er..... comment...

plus I been watching all of red dwarf this week.. so I now have a full complement of space crazy voices in my head.  ....at least holly is a guy still  >>
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Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

It is always ammusing to see an argument used by both sides against eachother......

Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

Chinas morals Vs. Easier money grabbing for corporations?

Can't say I'm drawn to either of those really.

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Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

My mind's getting headaches from this....

Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

Sorry China, but for that defense to work, you actually have to have morals.

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Re: China Invokes Morals Defense Against WTO Ruling

Well that explains why using it didn't work for the US.

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