Christian Games Hit Texas Wal-Marts

October 12, 2009 -

Left Behind Games Inc., a publisher of Christian-themed videogames, has secured a pilot release of its titles in 100 Wal-Mart stores in the Houston and Dallas areas.

Three games will be sold as part of a test to determine the viability of selling the titles in additional Wal-Mart locations. Left Behind Games, also known as Inspired Media Entertainment, believes that Texas is ripe for its offerings, noting that there are over 23,000 churches in Texas, with over 5.0 million Evangelical Protestants and more than 1.7 million Mainline Protestants.

CEO Troy Lyndon has high hopes for the Christian game market:

The US market for Christian video games could reach $648 Million within the next five years based upon just 3% of video game sales being in the Christian segment.


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Yeah and they can't get Deer Hunter success without Deer Hunter system requirements and pricepoint. Those games started at $19.99 and could run on anything that could run Quake. 

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Left Behind the game is basicly kill anyone who is not Christian.

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Not entirely true. You CAN do that. You're punished for it, though. You lose points whenever you kill someone. It's an option, just like you have the option to do all sorts of things in GTA or Fable. The game doesn't force you to kill non-christians, and actually goes through pains to try to get you not to, but it doesn't take away the option. You'll just lose every game you play because your score will hit the negatives uber-fast if you go on a killing spree.

 

 

Please note that I HATED the Left Behind game, but I don't want there to be any misinformation about it. It sucked enough on its own.

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isn't that half what the holocaust was about? hmmm pattern maybe?

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As long as the games are locked behind a counter and the purchaser is carded for buying material that could be "harmful to minors", sure, why not?  :/

Sarcasm aside, it's just another genre.  Not one I'm interested in, but someone might be.

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Re: Christian Games Hit Texas Wal-Marts

thats a good point really since these games, unlike schmup like Halo or GoW, will actually be intended to further a political/religious agenda of some sort more than likely. As opposed to just be entertainment.

what next? PETA's official vegan series?

that kinda makes me wanna go play chex quest all of a sudden... heh

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 Thats fine with me, but they should stop trying to censor their competitors.

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Heh, releasing this game in Texas Walmarts to test viability seems to be a lot like releasing a new cheeseburger at Mcdonald's to see if it's successful

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This is absolutely true. But the problem is that they're releasing in the two biggest metropolises in the state; where there is cultural variety and a chance to have an open mind. They're bound to sell more per-capita in the smaller towns.

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i hadn't even thought of that :p thats a good point.. with texas's blown up christian ego (no offense to those that don't share that "i'm bigger and better than anyone else because i'm texan!" attitude mind you. i mean come on, protesting GRAW 2 because it made texans "look like cowards"?) that doesn't really factor for the real market does it?

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I believe the unofficial slogan is "Fuck you, I'm a Texan!" Either way, nice save.

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i knew there was some official tag to the attitude, but i couldn't recall it :p

 

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"The US market for Christian video games could reach $648 Million within the next five years"

I highly doubt that. Simply because all bible games have been utter crap. But then again the games probably don't have to be good for for them to buy it.

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This. Gamers don't buy these games for themselves. Their out-of-touch relatives buy these as gifts.

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I just want to see Jack go on a tirade about "Salvation Simulators"

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I just watched the trailer for the Left Behind game and they claim it has the most realistic recreation of New York City to ever appear in a video game.

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thats terrorist fodder there!

lol, send that to a politician, the game must be stopped before bin laden plans his next biblical attack on NYC!

why not? i mean, they had to edit nearly every flight sim, and training prog out there to misrepresent major cities/locations because of the "ability to plan out possible terrorists attacks" using these things.

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Not even HE can take this seriously...

 

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So? How is this different from them selling Christian music (which they do, and have done for a long time)?

EDIT: That being said, now that I think about it, I do have a problem with the entire niche being represented by some of the worst games possible for the job. Digital Praise would've been a much better choice.

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I think it's a question of demand. Just how big is the demand for Christian games (not saying either way of the argument)? They have Christian rock, sure, but we pagans have, like, pagan, folk, Viking, etc. metal.

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I'm torn.

On one hand, it would be cool to see more religious expression through video games and less distrust from Christian organizations.

On the other hand, Left Behind's games are kind of crap--both via gameplay and via doctrine. So this  is probably a step in the wrong direction.


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Are there any good Christian games?

The only ones I've ever heard about have been:

 * These Left Behind Games

 * Cheap ripoffs of other games (e.g. Praise Hero)

 * Bible Trivia

I think there's a recent adventure game out, but I don't know that it's available hardcopy. Salome, I think.

 

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True, but if their crappy games set a prescient, it is possible that other companies that actually know what they are doing might have a shot at a market.

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I have a feeling that if the experiment goes well, it won't be because it was in  Texas, so much as because it was in Wal-Mart.

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I can't even NAME 3 recent Christian games, besides Left Behind. Maybe the other 2 are going to be Call of Duty 4 and Modern Warfare 2.

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Is that a bandwagon reference? Or a Jihad reference?

If bandwagon, I'd have gone with 'Halo' series instead because of the obvious connection.

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Yeah...

That didn't work.

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...Okay, i missed the joke.

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The joke is that good conservative christians are "true" patriots and are gung-ho for anything that's blood and guts, so MW and MW2 are considered patriotic games for them.

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anti jew/facist and muslim maybe? (nazi's and middle east)

no idea..

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Hum, I wonder how long until the Allied Atheist Alliance will start start spewing anti-religious crap from their mouths in the comments section for this story. Should be pretty soon.

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If you ask me, the whole thing about it being Christian comes down to this - it depends on denominations.

Some denominations are more liberal, and open to others, while others (thinking mostly of Evangelicals and Pentecostals for the moment) want to infuse their religion into government to establish theocracy. But some lump all denominations into one broad umbrella term, and go after that without discern between them.

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I'll start:

Perhaps the "antireligious crap" will stop when Christians stop their persecution of gays, pretending the universe is 6000 years old, and trying to push their ways on everyone.  Until that stops, I'd say they are fair game. 

 

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Except there are plenty of Christians who are fine with gays, acknowledge that the universe is over 6000 years old, and don't try to push their views on people.  The reason your comments rile people up is because you generally act as if ALL Christians are like whoever's causing trouble at the moment.

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problem is those aren't the majority that are fine with gays and acknowledge the universes obvious age.

they are also the vocal minority, mostly as in their completely mute on the topics.

even still they have a tendancy (without knowing at times) to push their religion on others in various methods.

missionary work is a grand example. go to a non-christian/cathlolic area and start preaching "if you don't do as this book says and pay me, your going to suffer eternity in damnation and suffering!"

really? not trying to force anything on anyone.. nope. no threats there.. just the "truth"

i'm not going to claim there aren't those who don't view it the same, or even remotely similar. but fact remains that the vocal majority are zealots that think that everyone should join under their solid misplaced beliefs, and do as they say.

 

Edit: seems i was beaten to the punch by much better layed out posts :p

 

"They say they are the majority and that the "good" Christians are the minority (or they claim that that ALL Christians believe only what THEY believe, denying the existance of any other Chrisitian belief system)."

 

ooh i love that line :)

especially since there are gay christians that are often times more devote to the good book than most none gay. kinda ironic isn't it? they tend to have a much more open interpretation of it too, and straightforward. not a "this is what "I" think it says so thats what it says and nothing more" attitude.

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The vocal minority in Christianity isn't just vocal, they're also the leaders. There's a reason why when leaders of an organization speak, they say how many people are in their group, how many people attend their fucntions, how many people donate money to them. Their voice carries the weight of all those people, not just their own.

This makes the vocal minority a represented majority. There's an onus in politics to speak or be spoken for. If you hold your tongue, don't be surprised when you don't agree with what you end up saying.

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You should try getting to know average Christians instead of assuming they're all like the anti-gay, anti-science crazies who always make it on the news.

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may want to re read that before making immediate assumptions.

i said the outspoken/vocal majority are as such, thus more oft heard than the quiet minority in that aren't.

issue is, even some of those that aren't anti-gay and what not, still don't want them to have normal rights and consider them "off" or "strange".

my mother is a fine example, she doesn't mind the homosexuals, but still would fight tooth and nail if she could, to prevent them from having marriage rights.

why? because "god said its not meant to be"

best answer i could get from her aside from "because its not right"

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And your mother is only one person. It's hard to judge a trend based on one example.

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Maybe not all are, but when the "others" win in some vote, you can bet that there are many articles of "Christians (the overall religion, not segregated by different sects and beliefs) are the majority in this country", and those winning those votes on various issues are counting ALL Christians, including those that don't agree with them.

Face it, if there is a majority who are as you say, then where are they?  They're not voting against those who do favor discrimination, bigotry, lies, deceit, and other truly immoral acts.  So where, in fact, ARE the majority voting "good" Christians?  Apparently, they're letting the "bad" ones be the representatives of the overall Christian belief system.

You and I both know there are a great many different major religions.  And several non-religious groups, from Agnostic to Atheist.  And within any major religion, there are a great many seperate sects, all of whom may be broken down even further.  (I think religioustolerance.org said there was about 30,000 or so different subcatagories of Christianity alone.)

But if there an overwhelming majority of "good" Christians out there.  And all those who promote bigotry, hate, abuse, and other such acts as being acceptable because of their Christian beliefs are "bad" Christians.

Then why are so many legal cases and propositions (such as gay Rights, homosexual marriage, taking "In God We Trust" off of government printed legal currency, etc) being won in favor of the "bad" Christians?  They say they are the majority and that the "good" Christians are the minority (or they claim that that ALL Christians believe only what THEY believe, denying the existance of any other Chrisitian belief system).

So where IS that majority of "good" Christians?

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Well for one thing, since good christians do not smack people over the head with their religion, they seldem talk about it unless the subject comes up... many of the people you may think are non-religious because they never spoke of religion could easily infact be religious... Hell, that's actually part of the problem, only the bad christians have the overzealous ferver required to become a leader within a religion; the good chrisitans rather keep things small... the bad chrisitans' tendancy to smack people over the head with their religion is EXACTLY what gives them the drive to become relisigious-leaning pundits, politicians, and so forth... good chrisitans do not have that same drive and thus keep their more to themselves; at most they might become the priest, but one you never see speaking in front of a camera... honestly, dealing with bad chrisitans is like dealing with forum trolls, it's a lot easier to just ignore them, then it is to try and fight for dominance

 

Another thing is the two party system, the mentality that not-voting is as good as throwing your vote away and the idea that it is better to vote for the lesser of two evils. Asking where the good chritians are based on politicians is like asking where the fiscal conservatives are in lue of all the social conservatives in the office. I mean, the moderate conservative may not like the stances of the extreme right conservative, but in the end he still hates the liberal stances even more and would not want to "waste" their vote on a third party... as such he votes for the extreme right even though they make the rest of the repbilican party look bad... for christian voters, more or less the same deal... even if they do not like some of the stances of one guy, they still think it's better then what the other guy... vote for the lessor of two evils, because their is no "good" option... Hell before you go asking "why are bad chrisitans getting votes" you need to ask "how many good christians actually want to compete against those politicans"... again, most good christians don't want to be religious leaders, so if one does become a leader then 10-1 says they are not gonna be talking about god too much (again keeping it too themselves)

Another factor to consider is the generational gap... the newer generations look at relgion much more liberally then previous generations; they may carry the same faith, but they treat it differently... my grandmother's generation may be obviously religious, but my parents generation is just as religious but are not obvious about it, and it's even more so with my generation... fact is, the bad chrisitans may try to pass on their beliefs to the next generation, but all in all, there's is a dying breed (one thing that helps is that their teachings end up pushing away their students)... and once they are gone the good chrisitans will be able to waltz right on in

 

Not to mention that chrisitans are found at ALL points of the political spectrum... meaning you got plenty of Christians voting for liberals just as you have them voting for conservatives... Hell if i recall, pretty most every US president confided in some form of chrisitanity, and while i know they weren't all winners, some of them seem pretty good and didn't go clobbering their religion over our heads.

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No, we act as if all STUPID Christians are like these people. As in, those that want a) Religion brought into our government or b) Religion influencing our laws.

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Sorry, but I too have seen plenty of comments saying all of Christianity is to blame, or all religions in general. That's no better than the blame, the other way around.

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The thing is, at least from my perspective, is that most "Christians" aren't really Christian at all, they just say "Jesus was god" and leave it at that, barely taking any other parts seriously. Hell, I know plenty of Christians that don't even think that Jesus is "Lord." Very few, even the ones on this site, claim that these "Christians" are the problem. It's the true Christians that ARE to blame, the TRULY religious that is a large problem with America/the world. When a third of the US wants the US to be more of a theocracy than a democracy/republic, that's when it shows the hardcore Christianity is to blame.

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But you are still overgeneralizing several denominations into one broad term. That is the problem here. You shouldn't strike at the whole religion, just those who are to blame.

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You might be tolerent enough to limit your statements like that, but I've seen a lot of comments on here from people who don't.

Incidentally, I agree with you completely on points A and B.  Not surprising, however, considering I'm agnostic.

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I didn't realize this was South Park.

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I don't even know what to say to this.

Good for people to finally realise their creativity in exploiting Christians in a totally new way? Enjoy my motto, as it does have something to do with God and video games >.>

"God, is that you?"

"No! It's a me, Mario!"

"God, is that you?" "No! It's a me, Mario!"

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I'm in 100% agreement here. I've been to churches where people are encouraged to spend thier money on "christian" goods. It's bullshit. It's a way for people to make money, exploiting people who have been brought up to fear fictional deities, in this case the christian god.

How many magazine subscriptions, porceline crosses, baptism gifts, and collection plates have been given or filled with guilt. Lets start it all over with a new generation of grandmothers buying chrstian themed games for kids who will have to grin and say "gee, thanks grandma!"

Sorry, done ranting now.

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i still find the best part is how its all either done in "charity" or for a "good cause" yet all the money goes back into some priests pockets.

god is free, gods word is free (as long as you don't buy your copy of the bible)

but anything else costs $$$, and to be a good christian in todays society you must spend lots of $$$ on christian goods or go to hell!

its gotta be one of the best marketing scams ever.. i mean besides scientology anyways.

 
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