As part of a policy statement on media violence, The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) outlines steps pediatricians can take to evaluate potential heavy media use by children.
Beginning with the claim that “the evidence is now clear and convincing: media violence is 1 of the causal factors of real-life violence and aggression,” the AAP paper encourages pediatricians to ask at least two media-related questions per each adolescent visit: How much entertainment media per day is the child watching? and Is there a TV or Internet connection in the child’s bedroom?
The AAP recommends that parents remove televisions, Internet and videogames from their kid’s rooms and limit screen time to one to two hours per day, totally avoiding violent games. Parents are also encouraged to co-view any material in order to screen it for appropriateness.
The AAP had recommendations targeted at the entertainment industry as well, including these specific videogame-related topics:
• Video games should not use human or other living targets or award points for killing, because this teaches children to associate pleasure and success with their ability to cause pain and suffering to others.
• Play of violent video games should be restricted to age-limited areas of gaming arcades; the distribution of videos and video games and the exhibition of movies should be limited to appropriate age groups.
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I have no problem with any of this. As long as its the parents that do this and not the government stepping into act as a pseudo parent.
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My problem with it s the same one I have any time an orginization that people look up to as an authority on a subjects starts spewing junk science...
I esp have a problem with them encouraging pediatricians to dig for media related dirt when talking to kits. It reminds me a little too much of the D&D/satanism (and later, pedophile) scares of the 80s where certain interests were labeled as warning signs to be squashed out,.. or put on record so that when police needed a killer for an unsolved crime they had a paper trail to show suspects were not 'good kids'. (I really wish I was making that last part up.....)
That was my first thought, too. They start with an unsupported assumption, decree that it is Truth, and proceed to base "treatment" advice on it. Previous strolls down that path have resulted in traumatic false accusations of child abuse, horribly damaging misdiagnoses of MPD/DID, and other episodes of institutional lunacy.
I don't know if you know this, but pediatrics groups have pushed for doctors to inquire information including asking if daddy has a gun, if daddy and mommy argue, if daddy drinks, and much, much more. None of that information is any pediatricians business, much the same as how long my son plays videogames is none of the pediatrician's business.
Both things are censorship which is unconstitutional in the US.
Please explain how a pediatric organization explaining that parents should not allow their kids to consume violent media "censorship." The government is not involved and no laws are being passed.
"Video games should not use human or other living targets or award points for killing, because this teaches children to associate pleasure and success with their ability to cause pain and suffering to others."
Video games have ratings for a reason. Besides, most shooting/violent games don't have "pain and suffering," they have 1 shot 1 kill for bad guys. Besides, they're bad guys. You should associate pleasure/success with the ability to kill bad guys and thwart their evil plans. Heck, just beating other players in Mario Kart causes the same feelings, the "haha I beat you loser," coupled with violence. You are rewarded for attacking others just for a small trophy, forced to fight against your friends with the soul pupose of beating others for your enjoyment.
I mean, good advice, monitor your kids game playing until you're sure that they know enough about (relative) right and wrong to be able to not be blindly influenced by a stupid piece of media. However, there isn't anything wrong with letting your kids (there doesn't seem to be much of an indicator about what ages this thing is talking about) having their own TV or computer. Just be a parent, raise your kid, don't let the TV or PC raise them.
*EDIT* However, they seem to be totally retarded. They assume that violent video games are bad for kids, assume that sedentary activity, no matter the amount of exercise otherwise, is bad. Simply being a parent generally is enough to know if your kid is gonna turn into a psychopath, or just a bad kid, they don't need to make video games (like D&D and comic books and rock and roll before it) into the next bad guy.
-If an apple a day keeps the doctor away....what happens when a doctor eats an apple?-
I agree with you completely. They don't seem to understand the media-form at all and make the erroneous assumption that people play the games strictly for bloodlust and violence. They don't seem to get that competitive play on most modern videogames is actually more like a sport than a bloodbath.
When you kill a player in Halo 3 your immediate thoughts are usually, "I got em! Go me!" or something similar. You do not revel int he fact that you have brutally taken a life in heated combat and spilled blood and guts everywhere because that's not what the game is.
If they want to protect children so badly they should stop blaming videogames and point the finger at organized sports where bloodthirsty competition is encouranged. At least while playing Videogames your child won't run the risk of suffering a life-ending injury. Then again, I'm absolutely positive that this group is just looking to jump on the bandwagon and attract more attention for their organization.
It would really be a wonderful thing if well-meaning organizations could achieve their goals without stepping on our toes with scapegoat tactics like this.
More political BS recommendations that will be ignored. The AAP should get a life.
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I agree with not letting your kid have a TV in their room and limiting their TV time.
The BS psychology they pull off however is completely unsupported.
Because the exercise they get walking to another room makes all the difference???
Placing the TV in a more public space makes it easier for parents to monitor their child's TV viewing...
And it does make a difference... With the TV in a public space you can hear what your child is watching quite clearly while you are cooking/cleaning/working/what not; and if needed you can just look up and down the hallway to see what they are watching... in a child's room, behind close doors, you may not hear what they are watching and will need to stop what you are doing to check up on them... One allows for constant monitoring while the other is more like occasional monitoring... Not to mention children shouldn't be spoiled with too many luxuries...
Should we also demand Disney stop killing off the villain in each movie because it teaches kids the only solution to deal with bad people is capital punishment?
The distribution of movies and games IS already age-appropriate, but parents can, you, know, override it. Maybe educating parents not to be such apathetic numbskulls about what their children see and play would help. So I do agree with encouraging them to actually VIEW what their kids are playing/watching.
“the evidence is now clear and convincing: media violence is 1 of the causal factors of real-life violence and aggression,”
Right there, they used the word causal. No proper study says that there is any causal link at all. None. Real studies say correlation, which is a huge difference.
And seeing that 1) violent crime in youths has been going down for decades and 2) more kids than ever are playing violent video games, if anything media violence has a calming affect on children.
-If an apple a day keeps the doctor away....what happens when a doctor eats an apple?-
Man, it's all too clear. My need to eat muffins is clearly influenced by the 100 points I got every time I stomped a Goomba as a kid.
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Video games should not use human or other living targets or award points for killing, because this teaches children to associate pleasure and success with their ability to cause pain and suffering to others.
I started thinking about this, and even assuming children learned from video games the way this is suggesting, it still falls apart. Killing humans is rarely the "goal" of the video game. The goal is to rescue the princess, save the world, etc. The killing is a means to an end. A more reasonable deduction would be that these games don't teach children to enjoy inflicting pain, but rather to see violence as a solution to their problems.
Of course, there's a counter to this, too. In video games you are rarely encouraged to kill non-aggressive character, if you're even given the option. 99.9% of the time, the people you're supposed to kill want to kill you, too. Mowing down civilians in the GTA games never gets you rewards. Sure you might pick up a little cash, but it's insignificant amounts, and not worth the police breathing down your neck. Any enjoyment you get out of it put there by you, not the game. So we need to adjust the "lesson" again. Violent video games teach children to use violence as a solution to already violent problems.
But wait, there's more. Excluding games like GTA, (which invariably are rated 'M' and should therefore be removed from this discussion) the enemies are almost always evil. They're not just antagonists, they're <i>bad guys</i>. So now our lesson is: Violent video games teach children to use violence against bad, violent people as a solution.
So unless someone can show me evidence of an increase in children attacking bullies, abusive partents, or something in that nature, I'm unconvinced.
The only case i could see for restricting access to video games or any other Free Speech media is if the media is question caused kids to be put in some altered or trance like state (much like drugs or alcohol) causing them to commit actions they wouldn't otherwise do in thier normal regular state of mind. But no form of media including video games can do that.
Yes, Video games along with all other forms of media can shape our thoughts and feelings and give us ideas and inspiration BUT it's our individual choice whether to act out on those thoughts and ideas and Free Speech media can't be restricted or censored for that sole reason. Actually that's the whole purpose of the First Amendment to being with. Just because a few mentally unstable kids out there might get an idea to commit a violent act because of playing a video game, watching a movie, listening to a song, or even reading a book isn't enough to restrict all kid's First Amendment rights.
"No law means no law" - Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black on the First Amendment
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/124/5/1495#R4
"The evidence is now clear and convincing: media violence is 1 of the causal factors of real-life violence and aggression. Therefore, pediatricians and parents need to take action.4 "
So, what evidence did they have to back up this claim? Note the little number 4.
Do you know what that is?
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/119/6/e1398
Note the missing word in their above resource reference. "Commentary".
Opinion, speculation, theory. Which is what that resource article is. Here is the beginning of that article:
"News flash! Researchers have just found that element "X" contributes between 10% and 30% to the occurrence of heart disease. What happens next? Well, of course, the manufacturers of element X claim that there is no link and that the research is spotty anyway; Hollywood writers and producers deny that element X ever appears in any of their films, and if it does, it is never "gratuitous," nor can anyone interfere with their right to show it, which is guaranteed in the First Amendment; and pediatricians continue to counsel parents about whether car seats should face forward or backward but apparently could not care less about element X."
In fact, the entire article smoke screens and plays the shell game, mixing and matching everything it possibly can to mislead the reader.
The article does say that media isn't the only cause of real world violence. It also hints at the complexity of the indivdiual. Still, it strives, just as both articles do, to mislead the reader into believing we are clones. That what affects one individual will affect another.
The references, just as in the Leland Yee legal document, claim that there are thousands of studies.
There aren't. There a few, with a great many others, claiming to be studies, patting the backs of the original studies, interpreting those studies, patting the backs and interpreting the "studies" looking at the original studies, interpreting, reinventing them, lying and deceiving others about them.
These are incompetent boobs who, seeking to fill an agenda, pretend to do studies, but failing miserably because they have no real clue about comparison and contrast and preventing the false view of unique effects by studying broad expsoures to various individuals, and evaluating the complexity of each individual.
These incompetent boobs set out to come up with a result, and they came up with the result they wanted to, because that's what they were looking for. They didn't actually do research. They put together questions and trials, limited what they wanted to look at, and ensured the results would turn out the way they wanted them to turn out.
And then some other baffoon comes along, claims they are going to do a "study", looks at the results of other "studies" that only produce the incompetent results they WANT to use to "prove" their study and results, and claims it's all new and original and yet another among the "thousands" of studies done on the subject.
The joke used to be that there was a law firm called "Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe".
Apparently, the firm has moved into medical and mental health research as well.
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I have nothing to comment other than the world is filled with idiots that will believe any and every thing.
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I once had a dream about God. In it, he was looking down upon the planet and the havoc we recked and he said unto us, "Damn Kids get off my lawn!"
Although these people are absolutely out of their minds, it is a good idea not to have TVs in kids rooms, especially very young children.
Just not for reasons related to moonbat conspiracy theories.
Hmmmm...
Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here but to the best of my knowledge pediatricians are physicians, not child psychologists.
Call me crazy but since this whole issue falls under the field of psychology I'd like to know just what makes them qualified to make this kind of statement with confidence.
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Well, according to one article that this "study" used...
"While pediatricians are spending their precious few minutes of office counseling on car seats and bicycle helmets, the media may represent a far greater threat to the health of young people." (Thanks Nightwng2000 for link)
Remember kids, its not the car crashes that kill you, its that dastardly glowing box in the room.
In war, truth is the first casualty.
"The AAP recommends that parents remove televisions, Internet and videogames from their kid’s rooms and limit screen time to one to two hours per day, totally avoiding violent games."
Let me remind folks at this point that the AAP has a bit of a double standard here.
On the one hand, the AAP recommends limiting kids' access to media, claiming that it's a cause of childhood violence - something that has never once been shown in any reputable study.
On the other hand, the organization has never once come out against violence done to kids by doctors in this country once every 30 seconds - by which I mean circumcision - the routine medical mutilation of neonatal male sexual organs.
So sexual mutilation that causes real pain and suffering: not a problem. But more than two hours of TV a day, or video games that cause pretend pain and suffering to mere pixels: not acceptable?
Once the AAP comes out against genital mutilation, I might listen a bit more attentively to what they have to say about media violence.
Circumcision is a family matter, a choice, which the doctor should have no say in. In fact, there are some very tangible benefits to it.
"...award points for killing..."
When was the last time these people played a video game, 1985? Points... *snicker*... priceless.
An 8-yr old shouldn't be playing Gears of War 2 in the first place (theoretically, of course). So, a post-AAP advice retroactive removal of said Gears 2 shouldn't exist.
This is basically saying parents can compensate for crappy parenting in the beginning with slightly less crappy parenting later.
They should be promoting pro-activeness, not re-activeness. This is, of course, all in theory; and not necessarily my point of view. I'm stating how their view should be done since they can't do it properly.
• Play of violent video games should be restricted to age-limited areas of gaming arcades; the distribution of videos and video games and the exhibition of movies should be limited to appropriate age groups.
Age-limited areas of gaming arcades? When was the last time these guys went to a mall? 1985? I've seen two arcades in the last decades and they sucked.
I wasn't even aware there still were arcades, outside of Chuck E. Cheese.
If you notice the contributors at the end of the document...Vic Strasburger, Craig Anderson, Doug Gentile...these are all folks known to have biased opinions on these matters (the last two have had their research funded by NIMF).
The document contains numerous inaccuracies, but I'm sorry to say it's not a surprise.
Last time we took my son to the pediatrician, we got a lecture about how firearms in the household are dangerous and all that other bullshit. The pediatrician then rattled off a bunch of 'stats' that are all either A) made up by the brady campaign or Kellerman or B) skewed by the same group. The doctor's office is no place for political posturing and a poor place for parenting advice.
How about Pediatrics groups stick to doing their goddamn job and let me parent my child. If children are coming in with strange injuries that hint of abuse, then they can take a more active role, but if they don't like that I have guns in the house, they need to learn to keep their motuhs shut.