Wii Bails Out Felonious Juvenile

October 30, 2009

A 12-year old Canadian boy on the road to delinquency had his Nintendo Wii confiscated by a Judge in lieu of bail money.

The boy’s nine-month crime spree has included such transgressions as smashing school windows, braining another boy with a pool cue and punching classmates, reports the Winnipeg Sun. Judge Marvin Garfinkle granted the child bail in his last court appearance, but only if he put up his prized possession—the Wii—as security.

The kid risks forfeiting the Wii if he does not live up to release conditions, which include “keeping the peace, appearing for court dates, living with his grandmother and participating in a bail management program.”

The boy’s lawyer added:

I know it doesn't look good. I've never seen him enraged, I've never seen him upset. He's a 12-year-old who is generally quite scared.

Via Kotaku

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Re: Wii Bails Out Felonious Juvenile

Hey, same thing happens in other countries too and they still punish the boy by taking away his videogames.

What would have happened if he had no videogames?

TBoneTony

Re: Wii Bails Out Felonious Juvenile

If this happened in Winnipeg (I assume it did, as it's the Winnipeg Sun reporting on it), it's a perfect example of why the rest of Canada considers that city to be the idealization of hell frozen over. 12-year-olds are allowed to run around assaulting people and their only punishment is "no video games". The justice system in this entire country is broken beyond belief.

Re: Wii Bails Out Felonious Juvenile

From the article:

"The boy's first run-in with the law was last February when he allegedly used a rock-filled sock to smash the door windows of his elementary school. Days later, he chased a classmate and punched him several times in the face.
Police released him on an undertaking but it wasn't long before he was in trouble again, this time for breaching a court order he not attend his school. He is accused of breaching that order at least three times.
"It's almost as if he's taunting the school," said Crown attorney Susan Baragar.
In August, he allegedly hit another boy over the head with a pool cue. His latest arrest was Oct. 16 when he allegedly attacked a male student and female teacher at his new school following a game of dodge ball."

Smashing the windows and not going to school, while "rebellious," isn't too far from the average stupid kid. I've broken windows in abandoned buildings before, and have egged houses and spray painted stuff and the like, hell once I even shot a bottle rocket through the drive-thru window of a fast food place. I turned out alright, I no longer do that stuff, it was just a boyish part of growing up.

As for the first assault...yeah I'd say that's pretty damn uncalled for, so I can see putting him in juvy for that. Hitting the kid with a pool cue, if unprovoked, I'd say is also a fair charge. Same with attacking a kid over a game of dodge ball. But, we have to take into account that he's only in 6th grade. In 3rd or 4th or 5th grade, I freaked out over a problem on a math test that I got right but the grader said I got wrong, ran out of the classroom, and punched a pregnant teacher that tried to stop me. I got in several fights in those years for reasons such as having my gameboy taken by another kid. He threatened to delete my Pokemon save file, so I started punching him. The mind of a kid that age isn't as stable as what you or I may think it would be, since we're already grown up.

Hell, in 5th grade I ran out of the classroom because of an N64 game that we were playing during recess (too snowy to go outside that day). You know when you turn on a console, and have an analog stick pressed to a direction, it'll stay messed up until you unplug the controller or restart the console? We had Mario Kart 64, and that same thing happened to my controller. I lost, meaning I was supposed to give my controller up, but I argued that the controller was messed up. They didn't believe me, and the kid behind me (who I hated) kept saying it was his turn. I had about 10 kids ganged up on me, yelling/making fun of me, and I snapped. I ran out of the classroom and towards the main road nearby before a teacher caught me. Had I have been raised in a different household, I may not have chose "flight," I might've chose "fight" instead. And this is only 1 year younger than the kid in the article.

It's hard to imagine, I know, but kids up to 7th or 8th grade are really prone to snapping and hitting people. I'm not sure if this is the case with the kid in the article, but it is a possibility that should be looked into. It may not have been malice, it may have been just him losing his temper. The vandalism is also not very bad, as he is a good 4 years younger than when most kids do that kind of stuff (usually spray-painting or throwing-dog-shit-at-stuff, but still).

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Re: Wii Bails Out Felonious Juvenile

Man, I don't know where you grew up, but all those things you mentioned are not a normal part of growing up. I never fought another kid in elementary school, or broke windows, or shot A FUCKING BOTTLE ROCKET INTO A WINDOW. The fact that you think those actions are normal and a 'boyish part of growing up' is pretty scary.

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That happened to me alot during Kindergarten and 8th grade
Never underestimate the power of idiots in large amounts.

Re: Wii Bails Out Felonious Juvenile

See, part of the problem with kids like these is that people look at it and go "Oh, he doesn't know any better," or "It's just part of growing up." It's NOT. Growing up, I NEVER thought of vandalizing, egging, TP'ing, or any illegal acts like that, and I was in like 3 fights in my entire life. One of them was where I lost my temper, and I was rightfully punished,  and the other two were self defense against bullying. There were plenty of times in my life where I could have punched or kicked or beat the person I was angry at. I certainly wouldn't have any trouble doing it, since I've always been a big person, even as a kid. You know what stopped me? My upbringing.

I was taught that you respect your elders and do as your told when confronted with teachers or anyone else in a position of authority. You don't strike people unless you fear for your wellbeing, and you sure as hell don't destroy someone's property or anything like that. Don't get me wrong, I don't think kids should go to jail if they get into an odd fight or two, but they sure as hell deserve tickets and punishment from thier parents. If an attack is bad enough, or if a weapon is used, they sure as hell deserve to go to Juvie.

I hate to say it, but launching a bottle rocket through the window of a drive through would, in my opinion, be a jailable offense. You have any idea what could have resulted, should that have exploded and blinded or maimed one of the employees? You'd have literally RUINED someone's life. But that's okay, because apparently putting innocent people at risk, possibly even causing permanent damage to them is "Just part of growing up."

If you ask me, parents need to crack down on thier kids and get control of them, and if that doesn't happen, the kids need to be placed with parents who will, or be taken out of society, because there is NO EXCUSE for kids who repeatedly behave violently, or repeatedly put others at risk. It is unacceptable, no matter how old the kid.

 

Re: Wii Bails Out Felonious Juvenile

AH WALL OF TEXT OMG

Sometimes I lose track of how much my fingers type. Heh.

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[The below has been brought to by sarcasm.  "Enjoy some Sarcasm today"]

HEHhehehehhaahahaHAHA  That damned Wii strikes again.  The Wii made him the way he is you know ~~mind control~~  What?  You think all that motion actived stuff is just for fun?  No no, it is the Wii's way of testing how much mental and muscle control it has over the victim. 

[Ok enough sarcasm... at least for now]

It seems pretty clear this demonspawn of a child needs some intervention.   Note btw that the article mentioned living with his grandmother so either his parents are divorced and neither claimed him, they are in jail or dead.   One could see why the child might have some behavioral issues/challenges. 

Re: Wii Bails Out Felonious Juvenile

"braining another boy with a pool cue"

Can someone clarify what this means? My first interpretation was that he killed another boy with a pool cue by bashing his head in, but that can't be right. I doubt that they'd grant him bail for a wii if he killed another child..

Edit: Ahh, read the accompanying article.. Apparently it says he just hit the other boy over the head.

On a side note, this kid seems out of control. Toss him in juvie, take his stuff, and make him go through therapy. If he's still misbehaving when he turns 18, toss him in jail. Some kids are beyond help, unfortunately, and I'd rather get them out of society than let them run rampant and cause issues for normal, law abiding citizens.

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Braining

You know, I don't think GP meant any of the Urban Dictionary definitions, LMAO!

Re: Wii Bails Out Felonious Juvenile

That's how I read it too.  I was taught that braining means 'to kill someone by smashing his skull'.  I guess language is changing.  Heck, in my day a 'gangbang' had an entirely different meaning to the common meaning it has today.

Re: Wii Bails Out Felonious Juvenile

If he killed someone I doubt his bail would only be a Wii worth $200. Braining can also just mean struck across the head really hard.

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Re: Wii Bails Out Felonious Juvenile

What does mean today? Lmao..When I see "Gangbang" only one meaning comes to mind, for me. :P

Re: Wii Bails Out Felonious Juvenile

Best outcome: This will draw the attention of someone who can actually get the kid the help he needs.

More likely outcome: They treat the symptoms, not the cause, and nothing changes.

Re: Wii Bails Out Felonious Juvenile

"I know it doesn't look good. I've never seen him enraged, I've never seen him upset. He's a 12-year-old who is generally quite scared."

So, he was probably a victim of the abuse of others, no one cared, so he took matters in his own hands, now HE is being punished.

This is an age old story of abused turned abuser.

Hey, if others can make assumptions, so can I.

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