UK Conservatives Scored on Game Issues

And now it is time to get out the pink glasses of conservative reality perception...

> The Conservatives didn't start the Video Nasty business, it was a campaign run by the Times
> and Daily Mail.

"They didn't do it! It was the man with the eye patch!"

And the Times and Daily Mail are *what* newspapers? Owned by *whom*?

> The DPP List of Video Nasties was created by the courts (not the Government)

And *who* "inspired" the courts and ordered them to do so? They did so by their very own motivation and free will? And why then exactly at that point in time?

Especially, since this moronic discussion had been going on since... the 1940s!

And don't tell me that about that time there were some criminals pretending to be "inspired" by gory videos and violent films - THAT discussion had also been going on since the 1930s and no one would consider it "serious". (The very same "argument" had also been brought up against books and newspapers btw.)

> and Mary Whitehouse was a massive campaigner against the films.

Mary Whitehouse was a nutter and a massive denier of reality and the media and politics only took her serious when it fit into their agenda.

Her "power" was to create some great headlines whenever there was nothing else to report about.

If they hadn't paid so much attention to her idiocies she would have faded into obscurity by the late 1960s. And she always rallied those very same 20-30 morons for "her cause" that would show up with crazy demonstration signs and claim to represent "the public interest".

> The Conservatives as the government of the time had to create laws to fix the problem due to
> mounting public pressure.

"Those poor bastards had to do the right thing! We had to abolish democracy in order to save the nation!" Bullshit!

Then why did Ms. Thatcher use the topic for her very own ends? Because it would shift the attention from other fields of politics and some voters would believe that she was "caring" for the young.

Yeah, sure. By first making their dads and mums unemployed and then turning school and police regulations a lot closer to Orwell's idea of a police state - with a very special prejudice against young people.

> Anyway even if they were "behind" it all

Now wait a minute! Either they WERE behind it or NOT (visit Melonfarmers if you really don't know any better). You were CERTAIN at the beginning of your reply that it was the press and Mary "Nutter" Whitehouse.

> why are we to say that they'll repeat everything again.

Hello and welcome to reality! Conservatives can change too? Since when? Before or after the next election? Well, most certainly when it suits their agenda...

> They've got a different leader and most of those MPs are long gone.

Ms. Thatcher - who stood for this campaign and used it as often as she could - is still around and worshipped by them. Every day of the week. There is no criticism on her by the Tories. Not... a... word.

And I won't even ask how you want to prove that the "New Tories" are one iota different from the old ones (only Labour had to give up their principles and social ethics.)

> It seems like the same when people say you shouldn't vote Tory because they're
> anti-gay because what they did 20 years ago

This is ONE lame example! THIS topic is even older than the one about blaming media for social problems of society.

So what? Even the conservatives can't deny anymore that there is homosexuality and that it is a natural thing.

Isn't it more the case that they cannot WIN ELECTIONS with being openly anti-gay anymore since the people's OPINION itself has changed?

> even though all their policies today are in support.

Nobody trusts the conservatives after what they pulled off last time - and rightly so. They don't change.

The real shame is that the "alternative" Labour has become so much worse and turned into the very thing they once wanted to fight that even the Tories may seem to appear as "the better choice" now.

> What political parties can't change? That's a very basic form of politics
> you have there.

Conservatism is not a political party it's an ideology! And while Labour has become the spitting image of a conservative party it is the Tories who still worship Ms. Thatcher and thus prove, that no matter how much they claim that they have "changed and learned" there will be the same things going on - again - once they come into power.

> I can only go on what the parties say now, not what they said twenty years ago

There is the famous quote that no conservative gives a damn about what he said yesterday. And it's really naive to believe that they have changed in any way if they are still worshipping the very idol of all their former sins.

> and the Conservatives show a definite support for the games industry unlike the Labour party

First of all this is only ONE field of politics! And EVERY party will claim to be "industry friendly" at one point. Labour will come up with it as soon as they need it.

And the conservatives on the other hand won't give a damn if another campaign against "violent games" will suit their agenda to get more votes. It's always more important to rally those nutters to vote for them.

And while the gaming industry and the gamers may actually have some weight they are not much compared to other groups and other industries.

> Lib Dems I have no idea

The LDs are a hope in some respects... and a complete disappointment in others. Since this has also not changed since the 1990s it must be concluded that they will never turn into any serious competition for the big ones. A sad thing to say, I must confess.

ZAR.

Just be cynical and vote for Lib Dem, they'll never get in!

I'd hate to see the Tories get in (Cutting public spending is the last thing we need, deficit be damned:) but it's looking more and more likely and I don't know what Labour even stand for anymore.