Modern Warfare 2 on Fox & Friends

November 12, 2009 -

As GamePolitics alerted you to late Tuesday, yesterday’s Fox & Friends morning show aired a segment covering Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2.

The short segment was introduced by host Steve Doocy, who began, “A popular new videogame actually allows you (points at camera) to be a terrorist and kill people.” He asked, “Is this fantasy game just a little too real and is it appropriate?” before kicking off a “fair and balanced” debate on the subject with Jim Steyer of Common Sense Media and John Christensen from SlashGamer.com.

Steyer was concerned about the age of the person playing the game, while a flummoxed Christensen attempted to explain the context of the scene in question.

Doocy followed up with the question, “Is it ever appropriate to simulate killing people?”

Steyer replied, “We live in a world of free speech so you can create these games. The issue for violent videogames is there’s no question that there is a correlation between videogame violence and screen violence and aggression in real life. The American Academy of Pediatrics just came out with a statement about that. The violence is the issue… you need to use common sense in terms of using games like this.”

GP: Of course, other researchers have refuted a suggested link between violent games and aggression. Overall, a less than engaging debate. What do you think?

Thanks KayleL


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Re: Modern Warfare 2 on Fox & Friends

I agree w/you. Hell Ive never been on tv before & i would get fidgety too! But I'm glad he stood up for my rights as a gamer! Kudos to Jon.

 

 

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Re: Modern Warfare 2 on Fox & Friends

"no one wants to give the podum to someone who makes no valid points"

Except Fox, who do on a regular basis.

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Re: Modern Warfare 2 on Fox & Friends

Eh, it's Fox & Friends - which Fox itself has admitted isn't part of their news hours, but is "opinion programming" instead. Now, when they provoke people into complaining about MW2, and the news part of Fox News covers it, I'll consider giving a rat's ass about what Fox News has to say.

(see the admission at www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-october-29-2009/for-fox-sake-)

Re: Modern Warfare 2 on Fox & Friends

 Has anyone else ever noticed that the name of an organization is usually the exact opposite of what they do/are ... Common Sense Media yet they have no Common Sense ... PETA yet they kill more animals than any other group that has a shelter.

 

Do we just live in a world where the rich think its funny to create a group that has a completely ironic name?

Re: Modern Warfare 2 on Fox & Friends

Yes, I think George Orwell's book '1984' started this trend...

Re: Modern Warfare 2 on Fox & Friends

 Touche ... you would think being a fan of Orwell I would remember the name of the organization Ministry of Truth ... yet it was changing history.  What is sad is his work was a work of fiction and yet has so much real world implications. 

Re: Modern Warfare 2 on Fox & Friends

"What is sad is his work was a work of fiction and yet has so much real world implications. "

That's not sad, IMO it can make a book great.

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Re: Modern Warfare 2 on Fox & Friends

And Fox News is called "fair and balanced" yet they couldn't be any more biased.

It truly is a topsy turvy world we live in... -_-

Re: Modern Warfare 2 on Fox & Friends

I didn't expect anything good from this debate, but anyway, kudos to Jim Steyer from saying that "We live in a world of free speech so you can create these games".

Re: Modern Warfare 2 on Fox & Friends

 Of course he goes on to claim theirs a correlation between videogame violence and screen violence and aggression in real life.  Granted the word correlation means we have no clue and we are just claiming something ... like me proving theres a correlation between shark attacks and software piracy ... I can skew the information enough to make such a thing look true but only a complete idiot would try to claim shark attacks cause software piracy. 

 

Of course I am such an idiot and I believe in order to stop piracy in the digital world we must declare war on the marine world and take these monsters out =P.

Re: Modern Warfare 2 on Fox & Friends

Well, I said "kudos" because here in Europe, people who claim there is correlation use it as a pretext to call for a total prohibition of violent games and jail time for their producers/developers.

By the way, CSM's review of Modern Warfare 2 is available here : http://www.commonsensemedia.org/game-reviews/call-duty-modern-warfare-2

Re: Modern Warfare 2 on Fox & Friends

When you mention that bit about Europe, it makes me sad.

 
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