Brisbane, Australia is the site of a planned rally which hopes to show government authorities just how serious gamers Down Under are about receiving an R18+ videogame rating category.
The rally is planned for December 5th at 11:00 AM in King George Square. Treat Us Like Adults, a website/organization founded by game developer Ethan Watson, is behind the movement. Watson has a personal stake in the lack of an R18+ rating as he wants to “make games that, due to thematic content, would likely be refused classification in his home country.”
Watson also plans to give a speech at the event.
Given that a previously planned, and subsequently postponed, demonstration scheduled for Australia earlier this year was going to feature protestors dressed in cosplay, Watson felt the need to note, “Just keep in mind that if you want this rally to be taken seriously by the public at large, you should probably leave your zombie gear for the Zombie Walk or Supanova.”
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Aussie R18+ Rally Planned
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Technogeek: If the developer were male there wouldn't have been a "conversation" in the first place.10/19/2014 - 2:27am
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Monte: trolls are just at their absolute worst when it comes to women and feminist. You could bet good money that if the developer were male the trolls would be silent and the conversation would actually focus on the journalism.10/18/2014 - 9:18pm
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Monte: Papa: Not the first time we've had a journalism scandals before, but the harassment never got close to this level; the difference with this scandal is that feminists are involved. Without the feminist angle, their would be A LOT less harrassment10/18/2014 - 9:15pm
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Papa Midnight: Monte: That's honestly rather short-sighted. As has been proven with other persons who have been targeted, if it wasn't Quinn, it would be someone else.10/18/2014 - 6:26pm
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Avalongod: I think that's part of what gives an esoteric news story like this real life...it taps into a larger narrative about misogyny in society outside of games.10/18/2014 - 3:29pm
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Avalongod: @Monte, well the trolls made death threats that came to police (and media attention). I think this is tapping into a larger issue outside of games about how women are treated in society (like all the "real rape" stuff during the last election)10/18/2014 - 3:28pm
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Wonderkarp: Zippy : Havent tried the PS4 controller. might later.10/18/2014 - 2:37pm
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Monte: Seirously, If Quinn was not involved and GG was instead about something like the Mordor Marketing contracts, the trolling would have never grown so vile and disgusting. There have been plenty of movements in the past that never sufferred from behavior..10/18/2014 - 1:57pm
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Monte: We have seen scandel's before but the trolling has never been as vile as what we see with GG. Trolls usually have such a tiny voice you can barely notice them, but its like moths to a flame whenever femistist are involved.10/18/2014 - 1:53pm
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ZippyDSMlee: Wonderkarp: You might be able to if you had a PS4 controller.10/18/2014 - 1:00pm
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MaskedPixelante: http://store.steampowered.com/app/327940/ Night Dive starts charging for freeware.10/18/2014 - 12:21pm
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Matthew Wilson: the sad thing is there are trolls on both sides of this. people need to stop acting like their side is so pure.10/18/2014 - 12:19pm
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MechaTama31: So, only speak out on a scandal that hasn't attracted trolls? I wouldn't hold my breath...10/18/2014 - 10:49am
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Monte: I feel like GG just needs to die. The movement is FAR to tainted by hatred and BS for it to be useful for any conversation. Let GG die, and then rally behind the NEXT gaming journalism scandal, and start the conversation fresh.10/18/2014 - 10:33am
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quiknkold: and we dont have a Dovakin to call a cease fire10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
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quiknkold: The whole thing is Futile. Both sides are so buried deep in their trenchs that there isnt a conversation. Its just Finger Pointing, Name Calling, Doxxing, Threats. there needs to be a serious conversation, and GG isnt it.10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
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quiknkold: I thought it was a good article. Jeff is right. I feel like GamerGate did destroy its message. I am for Ethics in game journalism, but man. so much hate. and its on both sides. I've seen some awful stuff spewed on twitter. Its a big reason why I exited..10/17/2014 - 7:34pm
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Matthew Wilson: while he focused on gg, he did call out both sides crap.10/17/2014 - 7:18pm
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Papa Midnight: That was a damn good read offered by Jeff Gertsmann.10/17/2014 - 7:17pm
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Matthew Wilson: http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/letter-from-the-editor-10-17-2014/1100-5049/ deferentially a nice write up.10/17/2014 - 6:44pm
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Re: Aussie R18+ Rally Planned
http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/News/160999,queensland-takes-on-atkinson.aspx
Why isn't GP reporting on Queensland's stance? Basically the QLD government is tabling a motion to authorize R18+ as a rating for Queensland only, this is being introduced by the QLD AG because he's stick of Atkinson cock-blocking the vote at the SCAG on this issue.
Atkinson's response is on page three of those comments too, basically he's confesed that if QLD gets an R18, they'd have to introduce it on a federal level or it'll be as un regulated as people who import X rated material from Canberra.
Re: Aussie R18+ Rally Planned
For the sake of aussie gamers, i hope this works out. If Queensland can make their own R18+, then that means any state can and they can bypass the federal level.
And frankly i find it hilarious that Atkinson can see that if they pass this in one state they will not be able to keep the media out of the other states; when it comes down to it, anyone can just go to a Queensland get a game and go back. it's only a matter of time before other states start following Queensland's example, and then Atkinson's state will be the only state without it, but it barely matters as people are crossing state borders to pick up the games anyway. He's seeing his one-man strangle hold on video games slipping through his fingers...
Re: Aussie R18+ Rally Planned
AWESOME!!!!
Hope Queensland becomes the state of R18+ rating for computer games.
Then Victoria and then the ACT because I know those two other Attorney Generals have been speaking on behalf of people who do want an R18+ rating for Computer Games.
Plus Mr Atkinson should be thankful for Queensland, therefore any game that gets an R18+ rating for these states won't have to be edited and sold in those other states like South Australia that unfortunately can't have an R18+ rating.
I had previously sent a mail to Vic AG Rob Hulls for an idea of Victoria going alone in the R18+ rating for Computer Games at state level but sadly I think he was a little slow to understand that and just waited for the discussion paper to be supported.
So well done Queensland for trying to become the first Australian State to have an R18+ for computer games, although I am seriously hoping that my home state Victoria will adopt the same idea before the next state election that could also be next year.
Re: Aussie R18+ Rally Planned
I know how this guy feels.
I know myself that I want to make some games based on Japanese Dating Sims one day, but I will be stuck if the Classification Board in the future bans my game all because of "Rewarding nudity for incentives" interpretation.
If there was an R18+ rating for computer/video games, this sort of thing would not have to happen.
Sadly I don't think the most important person in this debate would ever listen to us gamers. He is a stubburn stuck up parent who can't even parent his own kids and tries to put in laws so he does not have to parent.
Sorry for that, but just hearing his excuses is just one of those things that make me think that this is the way some politicians are, they are too busy to even parent their own children.
Re: Aussie R18+ Rally Planned
Heh, and the one AG stubbonrly voting agaisnt it will likely continue to ignore this.
Re: Aussie R18+ Rally Planned
My pessimistic side says this isn't really going to do much to get an R18 rating for games in Australia.
"No law means no law" - Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black on the First Amendment
Re: Aussie R18+ Rally Planned
As much as I support an 18+ rating, I have no faith in the general gaming audience to not go cosplay and look like a bunch of childish idiots.
Re: Aussie R18+ Rally Planned
I'm just worried about how many will actually show up... i don't have much faith in the gaming community getting off their collective asses to go to a rally. I hope the group behind this has atleast managed to confirm a good number of people who will definitely be there... cause seriously, if only a small handful of people show up, it will just making them look foolish and make it LOOK like there ISN'T a large number of people who want an R18+ rating.
Re: Aussie R18+ Rally Planned
I hope they win it. This will be interesting to see what happens. If they win it, I hope other nations will catch on & do the same thing.
"It's better to be hated for who you are, then be loved for who you are not." - Montgomery Gentry
Re: Aussie R18+ Rally Planned
Win what? This is a protest rally by a completely different group in a completely different area of Australia from G4C and their attorney election campaign.
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I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.
Re: Aussie R18+ Rally Planned
I wish the Aussies good luck with the rally.
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