The Director of Knowledge Ecology International (KEI) fortuitously found himself on the same airplane with United States Trade Representative (USTR) Ron Kirk (pictured left) and used the opportunity to grill Kirk a bit about the lack of transparency surrounding the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement.
Kirk told James Love that the ACTA text would be made public “when it is finished," which Love indicated would be too late. Kirk said he was aware that the public was clamoring to see the text, but called the issue of transparency “about as complicated as it can get,” and added that he didn’t want people “walking away from the table,” which he indicated would happen if the text was released.
In response to Love’s insistence that it was untrue that previous intellectual property rights negotiations were normally kept secret, Kirk responded that ACTA was “different” and the topic being discussed were “more complex.”
A pair of U.S. Senators recently called for ACTA text to be made public. The Electronic Freedom Foundation (EFF) has echoed that sentiment as well.
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KEI Director Corners USTR on Plane to Discuss ACTA
December 4, 2009 -
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prh99: Also there is no story in rational and respectful discussion (where you can find it).10/19/2014 - 10:44am
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prh99: Well they are probably doing it on Twitter and probably the GG hashtag so any voice reason gets drowned out by idiocy. Also it's far easier to broad brush a group.10/19/2014 - 10:41am
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Wonderkarp: dont fool yourself, Technogeek. Remember Mass Effect 3? How about the ferver against Phil Fish?10/19/2014 - 10:18am
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MechaTama31: None of which is the fault or responsibility of the people who are not trolling, harassing, threatening, doxxing, etc. So why is their opinion hostage to the people who are?10/19/2014 - 10:06am
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Technogeek: If the developer were male there wouldn't have been a "conversation" in the first place.10/19/2014 - 2:27am
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Monte: trolls are just at their absolute worst when it comes to women and feminist. You could bet good money that if the developer were male the trolls would be silent and the conversation would actually focus on the journalism.10/18/2014 - 9:18pm
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Monte: Papa: Not the first time we've had a journalism scandals before, but the harassment never got close to this level; the difference with this scandal is that feminists are involved. Without the feminist angle, their would be A LOT less harrassment10/18/2014 - 9:15pm
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Papa Midnight: Monte: That's honestly rather short-sighted. As has been proven with other persons who have been targeted, if it wasn't Quinn, it would be someone else.10/18/2014 - 6:26pm
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Avalongod: I think that's part of what gives an esoteric news story like this real life...it taps into a larger narrative about misogyny in society outside of games.10/18/2014 - 3:29pm
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Avalongod: @Monte, well the trolls made death threats that came to police (and media attention). I think this is tapping into a larger issue outside of games about how women are treated in society (like all the "real rape" stuff during the last election)10/18/2014 - 3:28pm
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Wonderkarp: Zippy : Havent tried the PS4 controller. might later.10/18/2014 - 2:37pm
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Monte: Seirously, If Quinn was not involved and GG was instead about something like the Mordor Marketing contracts, the trolling would have never grown so vile and disgusting. There have been plenty of movements in the past that never sufferred from behavior..10/18/2014 - 1:57pm
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Monte: We have seen scandel's before but the trolling has never been as vile as what we see with GG. Trolls usually have such a tiny voice you can barely notice them, but its like moths to a flame whenever femistist are involved.10/18/2014 - 1:53pm
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ZippyDSMlee: Wonderkarp: You might be able to if you had a PS4 controller.10/18/2014 - 1:00pm
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MaskedPixelante: http://store.steampowered.com/app/327940/ Night Dive starts charging for freeware.10/18/2014 - 12:21pm
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Matthew Wilson: the sad thing is there are trolls on both sides of this. people need to stop acting like their side is so pure.10/18/2014 - 12:19pm
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MechaTama31: So, only speak out on a scandal that hasn't attracted trolls? I wouldn't hold my breath...10/18/2014 - 10:49am
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Monte: I feel like GG just needs to die. The movement is FAR to tainted by hatred and BS for it to be useful for any conversation. Let GG die, and then rally behind the NEXT gaming journalism scandal, and start the conversation fresh.10/18/2014 - 10:33am
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quiknkold: and we dont have a Dovakin to call a cease fire10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
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quiknkold: The whole thing is Futile. Both sides are so buried deep in their trenchs that there isnt a conversation. Its just Finger Pointing, Name Calling, Doxxing, Threats. there needs to be a serious conversation, and GG isnt it.10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
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Comments
Re: KEI Director Corners USTR on Plane to Discuss ACTA
So he is worried abou tpeople leaving the table, yet they specificly exclude entire classes of groups from being there?
I say.. let them leave the table.. maybe it would make some room for people who should be there in the first place.
Re: KEI Director Corners USTR on Plane to Discuss ACTA
Ya CP nazis we need more of......CP should only be allowed to legally enforce their right to make money off it(no ads no donations no direct sales or subscriptions without a license) not mere distribution witch is nothing more than fans being fans, modern CP is about the creation of monoplies and empires not so much about really protecting creative people....
Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! Stop supporting big media and furthering the criminalization of consumers!! http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Let's renegotiate them.
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Re: KEI Director Corners USTR on Plane to Discuss ACTA
'he didn’t want people “walking away from the table,” which he indicated would happen if the text was released.'
Why would making the Agreement public make people walk away from the table? Is it because it's so ridiculously and blatantly designed to screw the consumer over that anyone who had a hand in it would never be able to make another honest dime?
That comment about how he didn't want people walking away is the most telling comment of all.
Re: KEI Director Corners USTR on Plane to Discuss ACTA
If that doesn't scream "shenanigans" I don't know what does.
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Re: KEI Director Corners USTR on Plane to Discuss ACTA
I'm just going to chalk this up to you (like most liberals) not taking responsibility for the vote. You liberals wanted Obama in office, and this is the type of shit you get.
Next we'll hear some bullshit about how this started in the Bush presidency. Even if it did, Obama could have killed it. Instead, he's keeping it up, with the same cloak-and-dagger bullshit you all say was what made Bush a bad President.
Ironic, or just hilarious?
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Re: KEI Director Corners USTR on Plane to Discuss ACTA
Once again showing your bonobo-monkey tendencies I see. I'm not responsible for any US votes. On account of me being British. Like I've told you before. Retard.
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Re: KEI Director Corners USTR on Plane to Discuss ACTA
The bonobo is a species of chimpanzee, which are great apes... not monkeys. To claim their behavior is analagous to that of pundit-parroting partisans is an offense to bonobos.
Re: KEI Director Corners USTR on Plane to Discuss ACTA
I think this is funny! They both met on the same plane! HA HA HA!!!!
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Re: KEI Director Corners USTR on Plane to Discuss ACTA
A Carl facepalm? Classy. Also, hilarious.
Re: KEI Director Corners USTR on Plane to Discuss ACTA
different? *sniff sniff* ? *sniff* hey err can anyone else smell that? *sniff sniff* urghhh theres bulls**t in the air
Re: KEI Director Corners USTR on Plane to Discuss ACTA
Yeah, ACTA is "different", all right. It's different because any sane person would never agree to it if they knew what was in it. If countries are threatening to walk away if it's exposed for what it is, that tells you everything you need to know right there.