U.S. Health Care Reform Subject of iPhone App

December 10, 2009 -

Want to learn more about U.S. health care reform in a simple program with a quiz-like interface? There’s an app for that.

People Operating Technology has launched the free iPhone & iPod Touch application Death Panel in the Apple Store. Promised to be “100% non-political,” the app’s quiz questions and facts are fed by data collected from the White House website, StateHealthFacts.org, the NCHC.org, and FactCheck.org.

Players take the role of an office holder who “must stand on a virtual platform and answer questions correctly about health care from an anxious public.” Twitter and Facebook integration lets users share their scores too.

People Operating Technology co-founder Jason Petralia stated, “Mobile technology provides a fascinating medium though which businesses and other organizations can gain mindshare. We made Death Panel to shed some light on a hot topic in a compelling way.”

Death Panel also contains a Geo-locational who’s who of congressional members, showing their home state, political affiliation and lobbyist funds received.


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-- teh moominz --

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I'm glad this game is designed to show the real truth about healthcare, rather than the lies and scare tactics that our friends on the right are using.

I've always been a fan of factcheck websites, like factcheck.org and politifact.com, because they are both non-partisan and expose the lies on both sides. The best part, of course, is that it shows pretty empirically that the right has constantly and consistently lied about this healthcare bill from the beginning.

From the utterly insane "Death Panel" idea to Glen Beck's asinine accusations of providing "insurance for dogs" in this bill, and Limbaughs insane idea that Obama wants to "Mandate Circumcision," there hasn't been a single kernel of truth from the right-wing on Health Care since the debate began this past summer.

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The factcheck.org site also says that pretty much everything that the left has said about "creating jobs" and "not affecting the economy in any negative way" are lies, too.  I haven't heard anything from the left that has come out as having a kernel of truth, either.

Also, the NHCH website is a bit misleading.  They reported that the CBO says the current plan will reduce the budget deficit by 130 billion dollars, and that's true.  However, they neglect to mention that this reduction isn't an actual reduction, it's in relation to the projected deficit that was done a couple of months ago, which the CBO stated that two-thirds of that deficit was caused by the health care plan.

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What they need to do once the bill passes is to create another game called "Get Healthy", then everyone can "Get Healty from P.O.T"

Sorry, I can't help bad jokes.

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Awww. That doesn't sound like fun. I saw the title and soooo much wanted this to be a game about being a doctor in a socialised public hospital deciding who was to die, and who got to live, in order to keep within your drug budget.

(NB, I am from the UK and I do thoroughly approve of the National Health Service we have here, but I still think the whole ludicrious 'death panel' idea would make for a fun 15-minute flash game or something.)

 

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Being sincere, a private hospital sounds a lot like the socialized hospital you mention. They are bunch of cheap bastards too.

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Would it be right to assume that the health care system there is nowhere near the complete nightmare politicians here in the US are so fond of painting it as?

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It's not perfect by any means, but it is free at the point of delivery and available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. I've genuinely owed my life to NHS Accident & Emergency wards on at least a couple of occassions.

Plus, if you don't like it (and can afford it!), you can always sign up for a private health care plan, which does have the benefits of having nicer hospital wards and shorter waiting times. However, the doctors and drugs are the same between NHS and private healthcare, so the quality of treatment doesn't differ all *that* much, mainly the level of comfort and efficiency.

Lastly, most big companies provide private health and dental care options, just like they do in North America, so for many you basically get private health care for free. For those who aren't so lucky, to say the NHS is a life-saver would be the biggest understatement ever.

The only massive downside is that it can be badly mis-managed from time to time - but that's what happens whenever you politicians signing off any public service decisions. The NHS probably isn't the best system in the world (i'm no expert on these matters), but it's far from the wost and i genuinely reckon there'd be riots in the streets if any political party suggested the abolition of state-funded health care.

-- teh moominz --

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The problem is, the "nicer hospital wards and shorter lines" would be illegal under our proposed health care plans.  Reason being, white people in this country generally have more and better health insurance, so they'd be the ones with that, which would be decried as racist.  No, our proposed health care plan would have everyone, public option or privately insured, getting the same crappy care you yourself described in you post right here.

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No offense, bro, but you've got NO idea what you are talking about.

This health care reform doesn't even CREATE government run health care.. Just Government run insurance. People can STILL buy "Cadillac" plans from other insurers. The government option would just provide another competative option, rather than let insurance companies run amok.

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And the people who buy said cadillac plans will be taxed, as well as the insurance company that provides them.  On top of that, don't forget that the people who pay for their own insurance plan will also be paying higher taxes in general to pay for those on the government option, because the people on the government option are NOT paying their whole plan.

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That's kind of the point, Jedi.

Those who can't afford insurance on thier own will have part of it subsidised, based on need. Thats so that we can stop the rising health care costs due to the treatment and subsequent non-payment of the uninsured.

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Okay then, let's put it in a way that proves how wrong it is.  Let's say I have health insurance through a private provider.  I'm lower middle class, so it's pretty tough on my budget, but it's better than the public option.  Now you, on the other hand, make more money than me, but your job doesn't offer health insurance, so you get the public option.  You'll pay a lower premium than me, while I'm taxed to pay for your health insurance even though you make more money than me.  That is a situation that is entirely plausible according to factcheck.org.  Explain to me how that's supposed to be fair.  Better yet, explain to me how that's supposed to be more fair than the way things are now.

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In which case, you switch from your private provider and go for the public option - simples! If you really want the extra attention afforded by the private plan, then it's only fair to a pay a premium, regardless of your own personal budget.

It all comes down to choice. Nobody can force you to make cost-effective economic decisions in a free society, but that's what you should do for sure if you had troubles managing your finances.

-- teh moominz --

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So you're saying that I should switch from my good insurance that I can afford to an insurance plan that isn't as good, just so I'm not paying for two people's insurance?  That's funny, because that doesn't sound like a "choice" to me.  That sounds like somebody like Nancy Pelosi wants to stick it to insurance companies, and nothing more.

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If you can afford your private health insurance package, then where's the problem?

On the flip side, just because somebody earns more than you but chooses to go for the public over the private option, I don't think they should be punished for making that choice.

Plus, you're not paying for two people's medical insurance - you're paying for your own private plan, out of choice, and also contributing to the public option through your taxes, same as everybody else would/does - just as you already do for social security, food stamps and Medicare.

No solution is perfect, but from an outsiders perspective the current US health care system is in grave need of an overhaul, which would neccessarily involve a degree of public funding of some sorts (and a heck of a lot of compromise).

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