Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

December 18, 2009 -

Australia’s Classification Review Board has overturned a ban on Sega’s Aliens vs. Predator PC game, granting it an MA15+ classification.

The decision of the three-member Board (PDF) was unanimous and the game will carry the descriptor “Strong Science Fiction Violence.” The Board determined that the fantasy nature of the game reduced the impact of its violent content:

… violent scenes are not prolonged and are interspersed with longer non violent sequences. The violence is fantastical in nature and justified by the context of the game, set in a futuristic science-fiction world, inhabited by aliens and predators. This context serves to lessen its impact. The more contentious violence is randomly generated and is not dependent on player selection of specific moves.


Refused-Classification notes
that this is the first successful appeal since F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin in 2008.

The Classification Board had originally Refused Classification for Aliens vs. Predator, citing violence as a factor.


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Re: Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

This is why the whole system needs a revamp and a R18+ category...

The Classification board is just doing their job and obviously there are some line ball calls some days.  The fact that they are given a flawed system to work with is the problem.

Hopefully with the call for submissions on R18+ we might see some action.

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& what has everyone been thinking this whole time about the game?! It's fiction. I wonder who came up w/that wonderful idea up at HQ to change the rating...... O.o Retards.

 

 

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Re: Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

Oh great a game made for adults(well 17+) is going to be labed M15...... well done auz land well done!

 

then again if you lean pedo this is great news 15 is becoming closer to adult :P


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Re: Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

I love living in a society of double standards.

 

L4D2 gets banned and refused appeal because of excesive violence and the ability to gib a zombie into human looking bodyparts. AVP gets approved and it's graphic depiction of the same thing is like, 10x better.

Re: Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

Well, Rebellion took a stand and said they wouldn't release the game down under period, if Valve maybe took that same stance maybe L4D 2 would've maybe gotten rated as an unedited game down there as well.

However though, this definitly shows how bad their ratings are and that they definiatly need that R18 rating.

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Meanwhile, at Michael Atkinson´s office:

 

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that picture makes my day when I heard Australia may allow this game to go to the country.  Now I can Atkinson did what the pic portray. 

 

Re: Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

ROFLMAO!!!!

Considering that Alien Vs Predator has got a huge following even in Australia, I am happy for those fans who are finally able to view the movie while also playing the game.

As for an Otaku guy like me knows all too well, wanting to play games that are not avaliable in your own country sucks. I am happy to know that at least a certain group of Alien Vs Predator fans won't have to suffer like I have had to suffer allot because of this country's laws.

 

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Re: Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

I'm surprised considering the content. More fuel for Atkinson?

Re: Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

Finally something thats not banned from the country. Wwas there any changes to the game or no?

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Re: Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

Rebellion has gone on record saying that they will not change anything about the game to appease censors.  Unless someone at Rebellion or Sega says otherwise, there is no indication that they changed anything.

 

Edit: Sega's statement from the Kotaku article, bolding mine: "Sega Australia's general manager, Darren Macbeth, tells Kotaku "It is with great pleasure that we announce the success of our appeal. We are particularly proud that the game will be released in its original entirety, with no content altered or removed whatsoever. This is a big win for Australian gamers. We applaud the Classification Review Board on making a decision that clearly considers the context of the game, and is in line with the modern expectations of reasonable Australians".

 

Apparently, Atkinson isn't reasonable.

 

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Re: Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

Yay! Now people this game is completely not aimed at can play it and cause another scandal about games being inappropriate for children! Another win for Australian ratings. F***ing idiots.

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Re: Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

One could then turn that argument around and blame the lack of an R18 rating for the problem. Had Australia had the R18 rating in place before AvP was released, it would have been given an R18 rating and been only available for those 18 and up.

It is the failure of Australian ratings system that allows this to be played by teens.

But of course it could also be argued that it is now rated for the market it is designed for. All the Predator, Alien and AvP movies are MA15 or under.

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Re: Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

Which way do you think it's more likely to be spun?

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Re: Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

Well by Atkinson and his cronies it will be spun as a Game Developer cheating the system and a reason to keep banning games that are not suitable for those under 15. But they have been singing that same tune for years now, so it really doesn't matter.

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Re: Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

Wow...that's quiet suprising considering some of the screenshots i've seen up on kotaku.

Re: Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

with only 3 people on the board, it's pretty cheap to keep palms greased.

Re: Down Under Reversal on Aliens vs. Predator

Think about it for a minute? Three people to make all classification decisions? A board of three are chosen to make a classification decision from the pool of board members.

 
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