Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

February 4, 2010 -

War-themed videogames are just one part of “the man’s” plan to promote the glory of war among today’s youth, helping to ensure that young minds are distracted so that the war machine may continue to keep filling the coiffeurs of big government.

This thought process is put forth in an editorial on the Orangeville Citizen website, in a column penned by Constance Scrafield- Danby, who hinges some of her argument on the current popularity of war games, such as Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (though the author refers to the older Call of Duty: World at War).

She writes:

Other really popular video games are about wars in space, wars in mediaeval times, killing dragons and monsters, killing aliens, killing scary animals, killing.

… the best, most loved, most played video games in the world are the ones about killing.

Scrafield- Danby argues that the U.S. economy cannot afford peace, and that “our leaders make a show of struggling among themselves with their own sticky determination not to change anything.” She expands her thoughts to additional areas were change is fought tooth and nail, concluding that changes biggest enemy is greed.

She asks:

But what if young people suddenly woke up to this? What if they suddenly realised what is actually happening to their world and to them? What if they suddenly started to care? What if they suddenly began to insist on change, on peace, on “going green” and finding other ways to make airplanes fly?

Scrafield- Danby then answers her own question:

The Old Dogs could never let that happen. So, what do they do? They see to it that even WWII is still relevant, that being part of that long nightmare is desirable. It is the most wide spread Machiavellian manipulation of youth in our history. This is not even the promotion of war as something noble, etc.

 

It is the promotion of war, using the full weight of technology, to present the horrors in glowing gore, from a totally unrealistic place of safety.

GP: Obviously this editorial is a little bit out there, but an aversion to "in the box" thinking made it difficult to ignore. While she might be close to the truth on some fronts, it’s probably not the case that videogame publishers are churning out war games at the behest of the government.


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Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

Don't forget Sims!

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

There will ever be war, that is a contant in the world. The best thing you can do while you talk your way out is to get ready if war break out.

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GP: Obviously this editorial is a little bit out there, but an aversion to "in the box" thinking made it difficult to ignore. While she might be close to the truth on some fronts, it’s probably not the case that videogame publishers are churning out war games at the behest of the government.

GP is right to say this b/c people that play war games still do realize what is going on in our world. I guess they think people that play games don't have feelings or don't have emotions for others or others around us or to our world for that matter. They are so misconstrued, it's not even funny. If the war games were not around, or killing games were not around, then the games would suck out there. I just want those people that don't want war games or killing games to play the non-killing games & see if they like them. I guarantee them, they won't! Then they will see why people that play games like war games or killing games.

 

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Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

"But what if young people suddenly woke up to this? What if they suddenly realised what is actually happening to their world and to them? What if they suddenly started to care? What if they suddenly began to insist on change, on peace, on “going green” and finding other ways to make airplanes fly?"

And what if someone could be both a fan of the Half-Life series and work on the Large Hadron Collider... oh wait.  Sorry, but one does not make the other impossible.  To be honest I think that someone who grows up playing games such as Mass Effect could very well be the ones to make such strides.  I mean look how Star Trek and the impact it has had on technological development.

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Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

It seems like the people who criticize violence in video gaemes have a severely harder time seperating fantasy from reality than the people who actually play them.

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Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

As a kid, before I played video games, I never:

Played cowboys and indians
Played cops and robbers
Played "Indiana Jones"
Played "Star Wars"
Played "WWF Wrestling"
Played football

Oh wait, these are all things that young men like to do.

 

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

The most-played games of all time are Snake and Wii Sports. Clearly it's a horrible plot by the military-industrial complex to corrupt our children with images of natural predation and referee-regulated boxing!

 

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Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

And "War Movies" don't?

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

Allow me to summerize this and every other anti-game/conspericy theory:

Everyone is a a bloodthirsty moron who can't tell the difference between reality and fiction, videogames promote war/killing as a good thing and can teach how to use guns and kill effectively, and "the man" is the sinister hand behind it all.

And that "wanting peace" is all it takes for it to happen.

Let me say this as plainly as I can....you're an idiot!

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

Dear Constance Scrafield- Danby,

Your comment of: "Other really popular video games are about wars in space, wars in mediaeval times, killing dragons and monsters, killing aliens, killing scary animals, killing.

… the best, most loved, most played video games in the world are the ones about killing."

BZZZZZZZ WRONG. Let me correct that for you.

… the best, most loved, most played video games in the world are the ones about TRIUMPHING OVER ADVERSITY.

War just happens to be the setting for these triumphs. But that screws up your whole argument doesn't it?

Enjoy your fail-cakes.

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

Whoever wrote this is overanalyzing. Games aren't violent because the government wants desensitized youth (and they don't and the publishers are independent of government wholly), it's because it's more fun that way. Let's see you try and make a game as exciting and visceral as Half-Life 2 without any violence whatsoever, and then we'll talk.

 

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Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

One could say popular media in its entirety turns humans into label specific prototype's and dehumanizes them to being a living breathing individual..... picking on games alone is kinda silly....... either bring in book and film or don't bother....


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Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

If we all suddenly became a bunch of peace loving pacifists, then all it would take is one nut with a tank or an assault rifle to bulldoze everyone else.

Eradicating violent video games wodn't suddenly make the planet peaceful either, in fact in cases people channel their rage into the game instead of another living being.

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

"… the best, most loved, most played video games in the world are the ones about killing."

I thought The Sims series was one of the most played video games in the world... not exactly a 'murder simulator' (unless that's how you set it up)

 

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Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

Other... ways... to... make... airplanes... fly?

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

You grab the catapult, I'll grab the test monkeys.  We'll meet back here in a week.

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

Oooook!

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

Then why is 'The Sims' the best selling PC title of all time?

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Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

This woman is foolish enough to think we can all just say the word and war will stop. War is an act of more than one country. As long as there is one group of people who are willing to attack another nation for some reason, there will be war. You can't just say "stop the war" and it'll just magically stop.

 

 

 

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

Seven words, Ms. Scrafield-Danby.

Tetris and New Super Mario Brothers Wii.

That is all.

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Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

"But what if young people suddenly woke up to this? What if they suddenly realised what is actually happening to their world and to them? What if they suddenly started to care? What if they suddenly began to insist on change, on peace, on “going green” and finding other ways to make airplanes fly?"

Answer, they would still enjoy violent video games... just because a person is a complete peace loving hippy, does not mean they would not enjoy blowing up a bunch of non-living polygons

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

"But what if young people suddenly woke up to this? What if they suddenly realised what is actually happening to their world and to them? What if they suddenly started to care? What if they suddenly began to insist on change, on peace, on “going green” and finding other ways to make airplanes fly?"

And what if some people weren't so naive to think that peace is something you just decide on doing? And what if some people realized just because you give it the title "change", it doesn't really mean it's good or bad. And what if somepeople actually looked at the plots and writing in videogames before claiming that they are "glorifying war".

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

"… the best, most loved, most played video games in the world are the ones about killing."

One word: Tetris.

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

One more: Solitaire

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

In another word, Peggle

In yet another word, Bejewelled.

Funny thing is, throwing a Javelin is, at heart, about killing things, silly cow hasn't got a clue to be honest.

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

And another word : Myst.

Now, it's not as if I cared about her rant.

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

 Yes, clearly it is the government mandating these war games, not the fact that Call of Duty games routinely sell well into the millions.

Also, she's going back to the 'fact' that video games have some sort of psychological impact that blinds children to the realities of the world around them. Anecdotally, I think if you took a poll of supporters of war, you would find that young people would be much more opposed to it than middle-aged and elderly people.

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

She doesn't sound like one to be talking about "the Old Dogs." She sounds like a hippie from the 60s. That argument is a half-century old, only applied to games, instead of the War novels and movies "the Old Dogs" protested back then.

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

My message for that woman should be: "New Super Mario Bros. for Wii beated Modern Warfare 2 in sales last year. Learn to research, please."

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Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

Bah, typical oblvious violent gamer responce.

Do you care nothing for the murder of unarmed goombas? Bowser is a clear representation of the misunderstood problems in the world, while mario is our ever violent responce! Why can't Mario just talk out his problems!? How many koopa troopas must be stomped on before people oppose such violence!

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

I know, right? It's absolutely appalling, what that psycho plumber does to those poor, unarmed animals! You can see in this link, that the poor Koopa is psychologically affected by what he saw that maniac plumber do to his friends!

http://www.cracked.com/article_18384_series-dispatches-from-mushroom-kin...

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

It's messed up man.

Hell Mario doesn't just promote violence but also drug abuse with the consumption of musrooms and fire weed; not to mention pill popping from the wrongly named "dr.mario" game. but it's not just Mario, that Pokemon a game where people force animals to fihgt much like real world cock fighting; Kirby and his monsterous nerver ending cannablism; and zelda... oh god zelda... as if playing with swords and explosives was not bad enough, the "hero" increases his health by finding hearts or taking the hearts from his enemies! its inhuman.

What the hell is Nintendo doing to our kids?! No wonder there is so much wrong with the world when these are some of the most popular games amognst children!

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

Nintendo. Those twisted Japanese basterds. They've promoted animal fights, drugs, unregistered weapon use, caged fighting (Smash Bros.), and outright murder.

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

Don´t forget Pokemon. It´s clearly an apology to animal fights. Those heartless bastards.

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Re: Columnist: War Games Glorify Combat, Manipulate Youth

Mario and Lugi. Those psychopaths. Do you know how long their rein of terror has lasted? Those damn brothers have never been stopped. Their number of victims may reach the hundreds. And yet people just stand by and watch. Oh, the horror.

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

 
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