Developers, Political Parties Weigh in on R18+

March 2, 2010 -

A story on GameSpot features the opinions of Electronic Arts and Aliens vs. Predator developer Rebellion as related to the R18+ videogame rating discussion ongoing in Australia.

The Aliens vs. Predator game was originally Refused Classification by The Classification Board before successfully winning an appeal and an MA15+ rating. Rebellion producer Paul Mackman spoke to GameSpot about Rebellion’s position that it would not modify the game to appease censors:

This was important to us and something Sega agreed with, and I think they handled the appeal process very well. It reached a successful result and you guys get to play the game and that's the important thing. The politics aside, [it’s] really not for me to comment on.

Mackman indicated that keeping the game true to the film source was Rebellion’s top priority, “…it's fair to say these are fiendish monsters from outer space and they do commit violent acts. Those are all represented in the films, so I don't think we would be true to the licence if we didn't portray that.”

Electronic Arts, who most recently clashed with the rating board over Left 4 Dead 2, provided a statement on their backing of an R18+ rating category:

Government policies that refuse to rate mature content effectively censor the content that adult players want to play. This shows a poor understanding of exactly who plays interactive games in Australia. The spectrum of gamers is as wide as the viewership of television, movies, theatre, and the readers of books.

A government policy that keeps our games out of stores and forces developers to rewrite code is censorship. Age rating systems are designed to help people make appropriate content choices for the right age groups.

In a related article, GameSpot notes that both the Australian Sex Party and the Pirate Party Australia have thrown their weight behind the introduction of an R18+ videogame rating category, while more traditional parties, such as the Greens and The Federal Coalition, have adopted a wait and see attitude.

Greens Senator Scott Ludlam did offer his take on South Australian Attorney general Michael Atkinson however:

I think the position he took to block the rest of the country from moving forward was really unhelpful, and I don’t think he necessarily provided the arguments to back up the position he took.



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Re: Developers, Political Parties Weigh in on R18+

Greens Senator Scott Ludlam did offer his take on South Australian Attorney general Michael Atkinson however:

I think the position he took to block the rest of the country from moving forward was really unhelpful, and I don’t think he necessarily provided the arguments to back up the position he took.

 

I agree whole heartedly. Atkinson got himself into something he knows nothing or very little about. He needs to move on & let Australia have their games. At least the 18+ people. He needs to grow up, Atkinson is the one that is acting like the child now.

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It really is to bad there is no variation of the U.S.'s First Amendment in Australia. With the exception of speech that is so closely connected to illegal and harmful activity that it is impossible to seperate the two (eg. Real child porn, death threats, purjury, yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater) the nanny-state has no business whatsoever deciding for anybody what they can or can't watch, play, read or listen to PERIOD!!!! That is up to the individual in question to decide and when it comes to children it's solely the children's parents and/or guardian's decision to restrict them not the state.

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I used to think that we didnt need it, that its such blindingly obvious common sense that if it needs to be written down as a law then something is seriously wrong with your country and I really thought Australians were more sensible than that.

Rather sadly I'm beginning to see the need nowdays...

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"the nanny-state has no business whatsoever deciding for anybody what they can or can't watch, play, read or listen to PERIOD"

I agree, but hasn't the US been pretty assiduous in censoring books throughout the last 150 years?

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A lot of those bans have been lifted and that no longer happens.

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Of course Atkinson doesn't really back up his arguments. All of his arguments just come down to "because I said so" which shows that he likely looks down on others and thinks them idiots.

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Also according to Green Senator Ludlam:

“My personal stance is that [the absence of an R18+ for games] is a real anomaly. I think it’s making the situation worse. We know that in some instances material that should otherwise be classified R18+ is instead diverted into the MA15+ category. That’s a sign that there needs to be some kind of reform. I think we do need R18+ for games, but only on the condition that there is a good look at the way that we classify video games in this country to make sure that some of the very real concerns that have been raised by parents and child protection groups are acknowledged as well.”

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I think the position he took to block the rest of the country from moving forward was really unhelpful, and I don’t think he necessarily provided the arguments to back up the position he took.

Finally, someone notice it.

 

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Re: Developers, Political Parties Weigh in on R18+

Austrailia has a political party just for sex? Man have I been living in the wrong country.

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If they have a sex political party.  Why can't adult video game and hentai game be allowed for the Australian market.  I know in Australia,  Japanese language is like the foreign language mostly studied in Australia.  But still, that party should allow those type of game.  If they get a R-18, they should allow those game because Australia have a political party for sex.  I know that political party would love those Japanese hentai game as much as Japan.

 

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No, they are a party about ACTUAL sex and sex-issues, not cartoon drawings of sex for basement-dwellling retard virgins.

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I agree with BearDogg.  They might not only watch Porn, they might watch hentai also.  Anime and manga are a big business in Australia.  I also recalled in Geography class (which I took last semester), Japanese and Chinese are the major foreign languages studied in Australia.  So yeah, it might not be a suprise that a political party watching anime porn might try to support R18+ so they may try to bring in hentai game.   

 

Re: Developers, Political Parties Weigh in on R18+

Their focus also applies to real porn, so wouldn't that also make that party in your own words, "basement-dwelling retard virgins"?

Think, McFly, think.

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They also have pirates! If they also have a Ninja Political Party, I´m sold!

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In that case I can't wait for the Pirate vs. Ninja election coverage.

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"both the Australian Sex Party and the Pirate Party Australia"

Because there is NO WAY that will be used against the pro-R18 crowd, amirite?

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 I can't believe those parties actually exist.

EDIT! WOAH! Nice website

http://www.sexparty.org.au/

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