Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

March 29, 2010 -

Things have been quite on the Tim Langdell and Edge Games front following a litigious end to 2009.

Langdell and Edge Games have been furiously, some say overzealously, battling against alleged trademark infringements involving the term “Edge,” targeting Mobigame’s iPhone game entitled Edge (now named Edgy).

Meanwhile, Electronic Arts also entered the fray last September, filing a Consolidated Petition for Cancellation against a series of Edge Games trademarks, including “The Edge,” Gamer’s Edge,” “Edge” and “Cutting Edge.” EA claimed that Edge Games did not actually use trademarks like “The Edge” in commerce. EA also said that Edge Games had continually threatened to sue it over the EA Dice-developed game Mirror’s Edge.

Now EuroGamer has a boastful email from an unnamed person at Edge Games, in which the company says it is “completely confident,” that it will win in court, both against EA and Mobigame. The Edge Games spokesperson further said that EA’s suit would likely be dismissed because of “trumped up charges,” adding, “Isn't it amazing how biased towards Electronic Arts the press is on this? When did EA suddenly become the good guys?”

The spokesperson continued:

Bottom line, we are the oldest remaining British game company, and one of the oldest remaining US game companies doesn't like the fact there is still one UK company older than itself that they have not yet destroyed. And they wont succeed. False rumours, misinformation and defamation never won any trademark case and it wont this time, either.


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Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

Well, keep in mind their poor reaction was after Langdell threatened to sue them into the stone age if they didn't cough up some money.  I wouldn't react well to that, either.

And they were right to think Edge was inactive -- they hadn't published a single game in the past 20 years.

 

EDIT:  was meant as a reply to Neneeko's post.  Stupid forum buttons!

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

So he really is just sitting on a trademark and only making money by suing anyone who tries to use it.

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

It's a sad, sad day when I hope that EA is victorious in anything. But I sure hope they are here (it's actually painful to write it). They just need to be sure to bring fire (or acid) to make sure this troll doesn't regenerate.

 

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Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

Sounds like Langdell is on the EDGE of insanity...

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

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Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

Pride Comes Before the Fall.

 

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Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

Langdell is a living example of one glaring flaw with over half the entertainment industry, the ability to get a trademark and sit on it, not allowing anyone else to do anything with it. That's the only reason he has the trademark, so he can make money suing.

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

It's not supposed to be that way. Trademarks must remain in use for them to be valid, but unfortunately there's just enough uncertainty in the system that even dead trademarks can be leveraged against those who don't have the money to fight an infringement suit. This is why I'm hoping EA will prevail: Langdell has been abusing his unused trademark for far too long now.


Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

Indeed. I can't think of ANY games his supposed company has ever released, yet he acts like he worked on the latest GTA

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

Well there was Bobby Bearing and... Bobby Bearing...

Which was a spindizzy clone with negligible original content but its not like that's trademark infringement

 

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

.....while yes you can trademark a common word, It doesn't give you copyright to the word itself, which it seems they beleive. (Copyright and Trademark are two seperate things)

 

This reminds me of the Monster cases, where Monster Cable were suing people left and right (and probably still are) of companies that had Monster in the name. The only reasons why they 'won' the cases is cause they harrassed the other companies to the point where they just changed the name to stop the harrassment even though Monster Cable had no real case.

Also reminds me the story where the term witchychicky came from. For those who dont know the story behind it, you should look it up, its hilarious. Which also proves to never mess with 2 the Ranting Gryphon, even though its light compared to some of the other things he's done.

 

Eitherway, EA isn't about to back down in this case, it might just cause a huge backlash on Edge Games.

 

Now if you excuse me... I'm gonna go read the Acts of Gord.

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

Well, yes and no.  They are indeed claiming a fairly wide trademark, but they are only claiming it within a very narrow industry context.

I see this as the growing pains of an industry not accustomed to things that other industries are used to.   We have game companies abusing the process in both directions.

Personally, I would like to see both Langdell and Mobigame take a long walk off a short pier for the damage they are doing.

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

The guy has sued comic books, video game magazines, movies, a computer company, a technology company and a memory card company while claiming that "they can't do that because I make that stuff" and then immediately puts Photoshopped images up on his web site as proof.

Also, he has tried to prevent any game with the word "Edge" in the title from ever seeing the light of day.  A trademark for "Edge" does not extend to games like "Mirrors Edge" (which Langdell then claimed he was making a game "Mirrors, by Edge") or "The Edge of Twilight."

And a question for you, other than having the bad luck of choosing the name "Edge" for a little iPhone game, what has MobiGames done that was so bad?

This guy deserves any bad fortune EA can heap on him.

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

My complaint against Edge was how they moblized a sympathetic public.  Rather then quietly handle the case, the decided to spam the gaming press with how horrible the guy was being.  It was childish and unprofessional.

It has also come out that they were aware of the trademark, examined it, looked at the guy's trace record, and figured they had enough public support to be able to go with it anyway. 

In short, they started using the 'but we are popular and cool! trademarks should not apply to us! go beat up that unpopular kid for us!' tactic, which I have serious professional problems with. On a peronal level, I hate hate hate popular people who discover safely unpopular victims that they can pick on.  Kinda an extention of the 'it is safe to do criminal things to criminals, because they are bad, and doing bad things to bad people by good people is not actually bad' mentality that I find deeply disturbing.

There were more issues, but I can not find the document going over their behavior right now and my memory is hazy so leaving them asside.

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

That was the accusations of Langdell. Later e-mail trails and paper trail + testimonies actually painted that they have tried their very best to accomodate him once made aware of the link and when nothing would satisfy his demand, they changed to edgy while warning him of such. He then replied that this was not enough while at the very same time trademarking that day the word edgy.

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

Actually, you're misinterpreting a lot of things.  Trademark law requires the trademark to actually be used.  He isn't using them, but he's suing everyone and anyone for trademark infringement, even when they aren't infringing on the trademark.

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Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

Actually, he previously sued movies, magazines, websites, etc. for using anything ever remotely close to his trademarks, so...


Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

Yes, but this suite is not one of those.

That is another frustrating part about this whole debate.  The suit is interesting for itself, but people have trouble talking about JUST the suit, instead bringing in other ones that while they show a pattern of bad behavior on his part, they completely cover up the importance of trademark litigation in general.  I have been hearing a frightening amount of anti-trademark rhretoric around this, esp by small developers who have no idea how much they are going to need these protections down the road.

It is like a tax evader getting ripped  while trying to buy coffee, and people using that as an example of why people who try to buy coffee should be ripped off.

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

Is Langdell fooling anybody other than himself at this point? Sometimes he comes across as such a pathetic troll that it's hard to believe anybody ever fell for his crap.

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

Yeah, that "spokesperson" is Langdell.  He's the sole employee of Edge Games.  And so far his defense seems to be that "EA has no case because everyone else has paid me off in the past.  So there!"

That, and putting his fingers in his ears and yelling, "BLAH BLAH BLAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

I never thought I'd see a day where I was actively hoping EA would succeed at something.

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

I can't believe it either but... I really hope EA wins. Normally, watching the big companies smack down the little guy pisses me off, but Tim Langdell is a dumbass and Edge Games needs to go. At this point, I don't care who does it, just get it done.

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

How dare you accuse Edge Games of having Langdell as their sole employee, I will NOT stand for such baseless accusations on this website. It is clear that there is more than one person active at Edge Games and we must subscribe to that truth.

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His wife is the other employee.

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

I'm not sure his arrogance can really count as a wife

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

I lol'd.... but in all seriousness, people have married stranger things.

Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

Unfortunately, you're correct.
 

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Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

I want to see the look on Edge's face when they lose the case.

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Re: Edge Games “Confident” about Lawsuit Victories

 

Bottom line, we are the oldest remaining British game company, and one of the oldest remaining US game companies doesn't like the fact there is still one UK company older than itself that they have not yet destroyed. And they wont succeed. False rumours, misinformation and defamation never won any trademark case and it wont this time, either.

 

... WHAT. Those are THEIR tactics! I thought the idea was that the bee doesn't complain overly much when it in turn is stung (Pratchett, Feet of Clay)...

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