New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

March 29, 2010 -

Sony’s next PlayStation 3 firmware updated, scheduled for release on April 1, will remove the “Install Other OS” feature.

In a post on the PlayStation Blog announcing the new firmware (version 3.21), Patrick Seybold, Senior Director of Corporate Communication and Social Media, stated that the removal of the “Install Other OS” functionality was due to “security concerns.”

Seybold also wrote:

In addition, disabling the “Other OS” feature will help ensure that PS3 owners will continue to have access to the broad range of gaming and entertainment content from SCE and its content partners on a more secure system.

Sony’s firmware update could be a direct response to the work of tinkerer George Hotz, who claimed to have hacked the PS3 earlier this year, reportedly using the “Other OS” functionality as a lynch pin of his work.

For users who already have another operating system, such as Linux, running on their PS3, it was suggested that they could “choose not to upgrade their PS3 system,” which could effectively cripple the console when it comes to games that might require the new 3.21 firmware.

Sony did not include the “Other OS” feature in its refined PS3 Slim when it was released last September.


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Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

The first of what month is the date near to?

I smell a joke/hoax.

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Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

I think so too, it would extremely silly of them to remove the feature, since it's actually a technological step backwards from Sonys ideals of a single home entertainment centre, whilst I wouldn't be entirely surprised if Sony showed that kind of lack of busniness acumen, as their past performance has shown, I agree that this is probably some kind of bad joke.

Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

Is there any way to sue them for it?

Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

You've probably got as much chance of successfully suing Sony for this as you have for successfully suing them over the Star Wars Galaxies New Game Enhancement fiasco. That is to say, none at all because their EULA gives them carte blanche to do this.

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Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

I have one url to respond to that quote.

 

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlatantLies

Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

Well, I'll give it abotu a week, probably less, before hackers find a new method.

Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

Okay, I would love to be credited my money back for buying into an expensive system with this feature.

Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

Here is what I have said elsewhere:

Is it a security risk? Yes for the content providers, but I do not see how this can be a security risk for the end user. You know the content consumers. And that is how they are describing this patch, as a security risk for end users.

They should tell it like it is and tell the world that the only reason they are removing the feature is because it can be used to bypass their Blu-ray DRM.

I also love the iron fisted way they are pushing the patch. Update or lose complete future functionality of your game system.

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Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

Don't know if it is related, but I heard of a few hacking cases (my father works as a network architect, and works mainly on security) where PS3 were used as "zombies". I don't know the details, but having the linux OS probably makes it easier (this is just an hypothesis on my part, though).

And from what I know, PS3 are favored by hackers because they're much cheaper than a personal computer.

I could be wrong, but this could be the security risk that they're talking about.

Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

But don't they all pull the same trick. Don't update and you lose future functionality as well as current online capabilities (which coming from a software developer's POV I find completely acceptable). Microsoft pretty much forced the pointless avatar system (and worse GUI) onto everyone.

Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

"(and worse GUI)"

I disagree, I like the interface now. And at least the avatar system didn't take away options, just forced a few extra ones.

If Microsoft added the ability to add Linux or Windows onto their 360, it would essentially be perfect, and I doubt Microsoft would be stupid enough to take it away just in the name of "security."

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Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

I find the new interface a pain. With nearly all Microsoft products the belief that simplifing the interface makes it easier is wrong. IE removed the menu bar (options exist and registry hacks exist to return it to its correct location), Office the ribbon, Xbox the simple blades system removed and a new system added meaning that it takes a lot longer to get to basic functions (such as clearing out the HDD, or setting other basic options).

Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

"[...]disabling the “Other OS” feature will help ensure bla bla bla[...]

He thinks were completely dump. Everyone knows that this is a lie.

 

They are removing a advertised feature. A feature that people paid for. Nothing else. Thanks for crippling my PS3.

Hey Sony. You should disable the BluRay drive because of "security concerns". One game might contain a possible exploit. So you should prevent playing games on the PS3.

Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

This, right here.  There's no way I could possibly see increased security coming that couldn't have kept the "other OS" function.

This is just another reason why the PS3 is a pile of garbage, and the company that makes it is a pile of garbage, too.

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Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

So according to you when Nintendo use firmware updates to disable piracy-enabling things on the Wii, good for them.

When Sony do the same thing on the PS3, it turns the PS3 into a pile of garbage along with Sony? That's amusing.

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Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

Stop a crack without changing anything for the consumers on the console...that's fine. We get PC patches all the time that stop people from doing things they aren't supposed to do and nobody complains.

Start removing features for people...that's when I start having a problem. 

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Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

Exactly.  The Wii was never advertised as being accessible to homebrew.  The PS3 WAS advertised as having an option, that is now taken out "for security concerns," with no address to what those security concerns are.

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Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

Wow, a nice unbiased opinion there. All I hope is that the rest of the openness of the console isnt removed (such as using 3rd party memory storage) which puts MS's overly-restricted Xbox 360 to shame.

Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

Well, for one, it makes sense now why they did remove the option to use those cards...how would the system recognize the flash drives within them after the new update is added on April 6th that allows you to use any flash drive (and some USB HDDs) for storage and gameplay on the system?  So while they blocked an unlicensed third-party accessory, they are adding in a new feautre in its place that will make things easier for people. 

The Wii has only removed loopholes for adding modded content to their system.  No features have been removed that were there from purchase, only background things that allowed external code to run. They did make a change in the music system for the Photo Channel, but they made that optional...no other contect is blocked should you decide to not get it.  They also added in new features for using external memory and playing games from said memory, which expanded the systems use and gave a cheaper option to store more games.

This whole thing with the PS3 is just removing an option from the system that they sold to people as a bullet point.  While this only exists on the older models (the PS3 Slim was sold without the Other OS option...but it was made clear by Sony beforehand which is fine), people bought the older PS3 and used Linux in order to make it a cheaper option for a media center setup (including myself).  From what I have seen, the ways to "crack" the PS3 don't actually use Linux (thought I do understand you can use it to run ROMs and such...it's basically a small PC at that point...people will try and run the NES and SNES on everything now).  Now if they did find a way to hack the PS3 via Linux, they need to find a workaround other than just completely removing a feature, that while I admit I'm in the lower ends of the numbers of people that use the option, was a point for me finally getting my PS3 when I did (along with backwards compatibility).  This just sets an example that if a feature is given...Sony has no issue taking it.  Whats next, someone finds a way to use an old PS2 game on the older systems (again..these aren't the higher volume sold newer models...but the expensive older ones only affected by this change) will they just remove backwards compatibility to "protect" themselves?  I'm just tired of having things taken away with the PS3, but they are slow to add in even the basic things people ask for like cross game chat. 

Thanks for the rant, can't wait for a response. 

Zen aka Jeremy Powers
www.ZensPath.com/WordPress
Xbox Live Gamertag: "Zen of the Dark"
PSN Gamertag: "Zenspath"
Wii System Code: "4919 8280 4221 9114"

Zen aka Jeremy Powers
Editor and Host of the Zenspath Podcast (now on iTunes)
www.ZensPath.com
XBL: "PsychoticZen" PSN: "Zenspath"
Nintendo Network: "Psychoticzen", 3DS: "0860-3238-7260

Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

Give it time.

Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

That was obviously a terrible idea.  Was probably forced into the feature set by some bozo in Marketing.  It's like adding an "click here to hack" button.

Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

I think it was a great idea.  At least from a user's standpoint.  Sure it makes security harder but it also means you can add a PC to your home theatre setup without having to physically add a PC.

Not that there's a ton of extra functionality you'd want that the PS3 doesn't already give you.

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Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature


Chris, a lot of people at the PS Blog are really not happy about this.  that article at the blog got lower then 4 box rating (it's at 1.64 box rating).

 

Also I think this is a April's Fool joke.  Since when did other OS are security risk.  I don't remember any article about PS3 getting hack in by going into PS3 "other OS" feature.  I bet you by tomorrow, I'm going to hear Sony announcing on PS Blog saying "April's Fool. the 3.21 doesn't exist instead. We're giving you a new real update. we're giving you Cross game voice chat, Software Emulation for PS2 game.  Enjoy April's Fool everybody."

 

 

Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

Ummmm.......... didn't they sell this thing for tis computing options?

BTW its not lunix they are using to hack the DRM....its the hardware itself.....


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Re: New PS3 Firmware to Remove “Other OS” Feature

I thought that that was the PS2.

 
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