AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

April 7, 2010 -

An Australian Politician has come out against Internet filtering in the country, while simultaneously indicating he is against the addition of an R18+ rating category for videogames.

Shadow Treasurer and Liberal Party member Joe Hockey (pictured) let his opinions be known in a speech entitled “In Defence of Liberty,” which he gave to the Grattan Institute, an Australian public policy think tank.

Hockey called Australia's plans for Internet censorship an over-reach, reports IT Wire, and then added:

What we have in the government's Internet filtering proposals is a scheme that is likely to be unworkable in practice. But more perniciously it is a scheme that will create the infrastructure for government censorship on a broader scale.
 

Protecting liberty is about protecting freedoms against both known and future threats. Some may argue that we can surely trust a democratically-elected government in Australia to never try to introduce more wide-spread censorship. I am not so sure!

The Shadow Treasurer called Michael Atkinson’s unsuccessful attempt to censor bloggers and online comments earlier this year “ham-fisted and unsuccessful,” before offering his take on an R18+ rating category for games.

Hockey, who IT Wire called “the most senior Coalition parliamentarian to address the issue directly,” expressed concerns over a link between violent games and violence in society before stating:

What concerns me about these games is that they, at the most benign end, make us immune to violence or, worse still, encourage us to think of violence as a legitimate tool.

Fundamentally, the loss of respect for human life and dignity that these games encourage becomes a threat to the respect we have for individual liberty.


Thanks Ryan!


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Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

What concerns me about these games is that they, at the most benign end, make us immune to violence or, worse still, encourage us to think of violence as a legitimate tool.

So when this politician gets angry & becomes violent but he does play video games, does that mean that he will blame himself and the video games he has played on violence. Or blame it on something else? Does that mean it is diff. for him and diff for people that get violent? B/c video games do link to aggression but NOT violence. It has not been proven & if it has, then why haven't I seen so many kids playing video games go out & kill someone or hurt someone. I haven't & if I have or hear on the news that people have killed or hurt someone, it has nothing to do w/video games. It means something is mentally wrong in their heads & they need help.

Fundamentally, the loss of respect for human life and dignity that these games encourage becomes a threat to the respect we have for individual liberty.

You have no clue what you are talking about in this sentence.

 

 

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Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

 What concerns me about these games is that they, at the most benign end, they don't have any real effects on our pyche and our individual perception of reality or, worse still, encourage an extreme few who likely have other more worrisome mental/social problems and pre-exsisting violent personalities to think of violence as a legitimate tool. (based on the incomplete evidence that has so far been unable to tells us anything conclusive about the relationship between violence and video games)

There fixed it for a bit more accuracy

Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

Accuracy is irrelevant when it comes to politics.

Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

Korea has an 18 rating for games. :D

Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

Firstly, you misspelt his name 'Jockey' earlier on in the article, just a heads up.

Secondly, the elected parliament has no direct control over the addition of an R18 category, this would be solely up to the state and possibly federal attorney generals.

 

Personally I think he's just double dipping, trying to get support for his party by vocally speaking out against the filter, but appealing towards the non game educated people by touting the whole "game violence will destroy society, rah rah rah, no 18+ games in this country!" line.

 

Problem is, his party leader is a religious nutjob. Frankly I'm considering moving to South Korea. I'd rather be under impending nuclear threat then deal with censorship and religious policy in my country, ugh.

Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

First Atkinson doesn't want the rating, now one of his asskissers doesn't want it.

Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

It seems like too many people these days don't understand what freedom really entails anymore.  Hell, there are folks who think Chavez and Putin are doing great things.  Anything is possible.

Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

I like how he uses "us" to refer to the people affected games.

It's like: "Oh? So ,you've played games before, have you?"

 

 

Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

"And here we go..." again.

And I thought we could let rest Australia from videogames news for a reasonable time. Also, Gamepolitics should be preparing a new tag at the name of Mr. Jockey. It looks like he will became quite popular on the next few months. 

 

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Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

Well, there goes any hope for the R18 in that country, since for soem ass backwards reason absolute unanimity is required to get anything done there.

Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

I thought it was just the AGs that had to agree.

Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

 That is indeed correct, only the Attorney Generals need to agree

Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

*hands Thad an internets*

Marvelous. =D

Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

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Re: AU Pol: Liberty Doesn’t Include R18+ Rating Category

Don't forget liberty is totalitarian.


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