NY Epilepsy Bill Languishing, Samsung Issues 3D Warning

April 15, 2010 -

A previously mentioned Bill in the New York State Assembly—which would require retail outlets that sell or rent videogames to display a warning about the possibility of games causing epileptic seizures—appears to still be alive, though buried in bureaucracy.

Bill A04004, drafted by Assemblyman Steve Englebright (D), was first introduced in 2001. It has been referred to the consumer affairs and protection agency multiple times, most recently in January of both 2009 and 2010.

The Bill’s text reads:

This bill (the "Bill") amends the General Business Law by adding a new Section thereto to require the following epilepsy warning, or a similar statement which adequately describes the potential risk of suffering a seizure or experiencing seizure-like symptoms during or after the playing or watching of a video game, be displayed in a prominent or conspicuous location wherever such video games are sold or rented.

The Bill suggests a civil penalty of $50.00 for violators.

A reminder of this in-limbo legislation was found in an article on Daily Finance, which referenced it in a story centering on Samsung issuing safety warnings for its 3D televisions. Samsung warns that “Pregnant women, the elderly, sufferers of serious medical conditions, those who are sleep deprived or under the influence of alcohol,” should avoid subjecting themselves to 3D technology.


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Re: NY Epilepsy Bill Languishing, Samsung Issues 3D Warning

Where is the motivation for this?  Nobody can possibly claim to not know that video games can cause sezuires.  I pretty much think anything on your TV is suspect.

Re: NY Epilepsy Bill Languishing, Samsung Issues 3D Warning

The warning is already there, so this bill is already beign followed to a T.

As for Samsung's warning, either they're covering their asses, or they're one of the few NOT developing a 3D capable television and want to see if they can damage compeition a little.

Re: NY Epilepsy Bill Languishing, Samsung Issues 3D Warning

Here's what I wrote the last time this came up:

Let's try a little experiment, shall we?

First, I'll grab the nearest video game.  Oh look, LEGO Batman.

Now, I'll open the case and take out the instruction booklet.

Next, I'll start reading...

Hey!  That didn't take long!  Look at what's printed at the top of the first page (inside cover): WARNING - Seizures.  "Some people (about 1 in 4000) may have seizures or blackouts triggered by light flashes or patterns, and this may occur while they are watching TV or playing video games..."

Wait, what's this on the back of the box"WARNING: If you have epilepsy or have had seizures..."

 

Dear Assemblyman Steve Englebright,

There's no need for legislation.  The seizure warnings are already there and have been for a long time.

 

Sincerely,

Andrew Eisen

Re: NY Epilepsy Bill Languishing, Samsung Issues 3D Warning

Maybe he just wants it in a really big, snazzy font.

 

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Re: NY Epilepsy Bill Languishing, Samsung Issues 3D Warning

I was thinking the same thing that almost every game in the manual or on the box has this seizure warning. I think it came into 'vouge' during the whole Pokemon Seisure thing a while back. Some games even have the warning when you start it up. It seems like the wonderful litigious nature of Americans has already taken care of this problem for us.

Re: NY Epilepsy Bill Languishing, Samsung Issues 3D Warning

I don't think that it was because pokemon, I remember seeing these warnings in games from 1990... It is like: REALLY old the practive to put seizure warning on the game.

 

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Re: NY Epilepsy Bill Languishing, Samsung Issues 3D Warning

The Wii itself has a jhealth warning that you have to press a button to pass. They are already there and adding another place to display the warning will not change anything.

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Re: NY Epilepsy Bill Languishing, Samsung Issues 3D Warning

The placebo law. It does nothing while making you think it does.

Re: NY Epilepsy Bill Languishing, Samsung Issues 3D Warning

No...it does something.  It allows the jackass who passes it through to append some message about him fighting corporations or some such for the betterment of child health.  It will work wonders on this guy's campaign adds.

Re: NY Epilepsy Bill Languishing, Samsung Issues 3D Warning

Considering game manuals almost all have a warning about possible seizures on the first page or so,this bill is a case for the Redundancy Department of Redundancy.

As for the Samsung warning. I'd say because of A)new tech,so they aren't completely sure what'll happen and B)covering their ass.

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