NY “Pandora’s Box” VG Bill Still Alive

April 23, 2010 -

Activity is resurfacing around a New York Bill that would relegate games that “glamorize the commission of a violent crime, suicide, sodomy, rape, incest, bestiality, or sado-masochism” to a sealed and locked container in retail or rental outlets.

A meeting in regards to the Bill (A2837) is set for April 27 in front of the New York Assembly Committee on Consumer Affairs and Protection. As it was explained to us, this simply means that politicos will gather to discuss the issue in order to appease constituents, all while Johnny Taxpayer foots the bill.

First detailed in early 2009, the “Pandora’s Box” Bill was drafted by Assemblyman Brian Kolb (R). In addition to fines of up to $1,000 for retailers who sale or rent such games to minors, the Bill suggests:

Every person, partnership or corporation engaged in the retail sale or rental of video games  shall  store  and  display  such  video  games containing  contents  listed  in  subdivision  two  of this section in a sealed and locked container, behind a service counter in an  area  inaccessible  by  the general public, or in any other manner which restricts access to such video games.


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Re: NY “Pandora’s Box” VG Bill Still Alive

Awesome! Government officials have spent taxpayer money to create A2837 to legislate against what, maybe 5 to 10 games published over the last 20 years that were mostly developed in other countries?

We sure there wasn't a more pertinent need for our government officials to work on? Are you sure? Really really sure?

Re: NY “Pandora’s Box” VG Bill Still Alive

 violent crime So CSI is Off limits

suicide So 24 is Off limits

rape So a lifetime movie is Off limits

incest So is LOST off limits (Boone and Shannon where step siblings)

bestiality So Twilight is off limits.

 

I did not put sodomy because it also has to deal with Rape, Incest, and Bestiality 

Re: NY “Pandora’s Box” VG Bill Still Alive

I'm not sure what it is in NY, but in places sodomy is "not missionary"

 

Re: NY “Pandora’s Box” VG Bill Still Alive

I love it when they pass completely unenforcable morality laws like those.

Re: NY “Pandora’s Box” VG Bill Still Alive

Re: NY “Pandora’s Box” VG Bill Still Alive

Don't they all ready do this to prevent theft? Last I checked in gamestop they have all the new releases behind a glass display behind the counter and every game box in the store doesn't have a CD there.

Although what would this accomplish? That if they keep them in the locked container the kids won't know they exist? I'm sure that'll work great once we get rid of advertising and the internet.

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Re: NY “Pandora’s Box” VG Bill Still Alive

Yeah, every retail and rental place in America already has their games locked up to prevent theft.  Maybe they also want the display boxes locked away?

Re: NY “Pandora’s Box” VG Bill Still Alive

relegate games that “glamorize the commission of a violent crime, suicide, sodomy, rape, incest, bestiality, or sado-masochism” to a sealed and locked container in retail or rental outlets.

Here is my question: Do they have a similar law for movies, books and music? If not then don't write one targeting games.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: NY “Pandora’s Box” VG Bill Still Alive

So it's perfectly fine if a 5 year old wants to watch Hostel but God forbid a 16 year old play Modern Warfare 2 and Bioshock.

 "No law means no law" - Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black on the First Amendment

"No law means no law" - Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black on the First Amendment

Re: NY “Pandora’s Box” VG Bill Still Alive

Seems to be their logic.

I still remember hearign abotu churches organizing youth bus trips to see Passion of the christ, despite it being a really violent movie.

Re: NY “Pandora’s Box” VG Bill Still Alive

Well how else do you expect them to get votes, by sticking to the issues, keeping promises and fixing problems? That just crazy commie talk. /sarcasm

Re: NY “Pandora’s Box” VG Bill Still Alive

For those in New York you can write your local elected official and tell them how you feel about this piece of legislation, http://action.theeca.com/t/2858/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=2589.

And for those not in New York, you can tell you're friends who are to make sure to speak out, http://action.theeca.com/t/2858/tellafriend.jsp?tell_a_friend_KEY=1286.

Brett Schenker

Online Advocacy Manager

the ECA

www.theeca.com

Brett Schenker
Online Advocacy Director
the ECA
www.theeca.com

 

 
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Goth_SkunkOriginally, yes. Some content was cut out in order to reduce its ratign from AO down to M, but PC users could work around that an unlock the full content by means of a patch. Which is what I did. :D05/28/2015 - 3:56pm
Andrew EisenKarp - Yes, for strong sexual content. Although the recent remaster contains all that content and was rated M.05/28/2015 - 3:54pm
Andrew EisenDepends on if you consider Hatred misrated. I haven't played the game or seen the ESRB's rating summary so I'm undecided.05/28/2015 - 3:53pm
WonderkarpDidnt Fahrenheit have an AO?05/28/2015 - 3:52pm
Matthew Wilson@AE that is why I said it seems more moral panic to me.05/28/2015 - 3:51pm
Andrew EisenMatthew - From what I've seen (just the trailers) the game is nowhere near as gory as many, many other games. But again, I'm guessing the AO rating comes from theme and tone rather than outright gore.05/28/2015 - 3:50pm
Andrew EisenKarp - It didn't show penetration or nudity.05/28/2015 - 3:50pm
WonderkarpI'd say Mortal Kombat X has more Gore and Violence than Hatred.05/28/2015 - 3:50pm
Matthew Wilsonwhat I mean by worse in this case its not more gory/violent than others.05/28/2015 - 3:48pm
WonderkarpI forget....did Hot Coffee actually show Penetration?05/28/2015 - 3:48pm
Andrew EisenKarp - The Skyrim mods are external mods. The Hot Coffee mod unlocked content on the disc. Big difference. Still, the content that was unlocked was still perfectly in line with an M rating in my opinion.05/28/2015 - 3:47pm
Andrew EisenThemes are factored into ratings, not just mechanics. Still waiting for ESRB's rating summary. Very curious to see what it has to say.05/28/2015 - 3:46pm
Matthew WilsonHatred is a top down shooter though, and isnt any worse than other top down shooters?05/28/2015 - 3:45pm
Wonderkarpyeah, San Andreases rerating was ridiculous. Why not rerate Skyrim with all its crazy sex mods out there? But yeah, ESRB is good as policing itself. 05/28/2015 - 3:45pm
Andrew EisenManhunt 2 and Hatred though? Eh, there's an argument to be made for the higher rating.05/28/2015 - 3:43pm
Andrew EisenRerating San Andreas was a mistake though. That seemed to be the result of kowtowing to public pressure.05/28/2015 - 3:42pm
Andrew EisenThere wasn't one. It's just a dumb rating.05/28/2015 - 3:42pm
WonderkarpI dont see Moral Panic with a racing game though05/28/2015 - 3:40pm
Matthew Wilson@AE when they tend to misrate games its normally because of moral panic surrounding it.05/28/2015 - 3:38pm
E. Zachary KnightReally awesome short film here. Predator: Dark Ages. Very well done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRD8jAk274I05/28/2015 - 3:36pm
 

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