Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

May 11, 2010 -

In light of Canadian kids receiving an “F” grade from Active Healthy Kids Canada (AHKC) for time spent in front a screen, MP Dr. Keith Martin (pictured) is proposing a “national turnoff day.”

The proposed date would encourage kids to switch off TVs, computers and videogame systems in a bid to stimulate physical activity. The StarPhoenix writes that Martin will present a motion to Parliament that would “…encourage the federal government to work with the provinces to promote a one-night a week TV/video game free night."

“It's just kids are not physically active. They're sitting down for an appalling length of time. We weren't designed to live like that as human beings,” stated Martin, continuing, “Kids need to be active and parents need to lead by example by getting their children away from the TV and video games to engage in free play.”

The AHKC report (PDF) estimated that Canadian kids spend six hours per weekday, and seven each weekend day, in front of a screen.

Martin is MP for Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca in British Columbia. He created a stir in 2002 when he attempted to “seize and remove” the ceremonial Mace which is typically placed on the clerk’s table in the House of Commons. The Mace is meant to symbolize the Royal authority of Queen Elizabeth II. Martin later apologized for his action.


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Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

“It's just kids are not physically active. They're sitting down for an appalling length of time. We weren't designed to live like that as human beings,”

Weren't "designed"?

How about weren't adapted, or evolved?

Get your facts strait, churchy.

Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

Heh. Canada's an atheist wonderland compared to the states.

Anyway, whether you agree with this guy or not, I don't think that statement has any inherant religious meaning. The human body functions a certain way, and I really don't think including a long preamble on how it came to function that way was at all relevant to what he's talking about.

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The problem is bigger than that.  I go to a inner city Toronto high school, which is filled with overachieving asian kids.  Very few people in the school actually like physical activity and parents and the school don't help matters at all.  Our school has horrible sports facilities, a tiny weight room, and is focused entirely on academic matters.  The P.E class' final summative is a presentation, not a mile run or a mile swim like it used to be.  People in exercise science learn about "sports and society" but not much about the science of exercise(like squats and bench presses, and hormonal releases, that kindoff stuff)

Parents don't help matters at all, they don't care about their kids physical fitness most of the time.  None of my friend's parents are willing to pay for a gym membership for their kids(40 bucks of month) including one who just bought a 20,000 dollar fridge.  This attitude transfers to thier kids who will not pay from their own money either.  Most people I have asked to lift with me say they have no time or that they don't care about lifting.  They say getting stronger is not important.  If they want to stay skinny forever they can choose to, but I'm working to change my body for the better.  

Contrast with the US, where almost everyone I knew was big into fitness and working out.  If it wasn't for them, I would have never started weightlifting, and I would probably be around 25 pounds lighter and much skinnier.  I'm much healthier now, and it really helps my body confidence and my dad to day life.  I was so painfully skinny that I couldn't make a 3 on the basketball court, but now I'm getting healhtier and meatier.

 

Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

The proposed date would encourage kids to switch off TVs, computers and videogame systems in a bid to stimulate physical activity. The StarPhoenix writes that Martin will present a motion to Parliament that would “…encourage the federal government to work with the provinces to promote a one-night a week TV/video game free night."

I hope he realizes that kids these days are smart enough to not plug in their lines to the outlets for power & can run them off of batteries. Another way for the government in Canada to run people's lives.

 

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Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

O_O Im sitting down as I read this and typing this reply ....  !!! IM GONNA DIE ARGHHHHHH -_-

Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

Should throw in school time and reading books in there as well then for "turn it off" day, because as a child those two had me sitting more than anything (including video games).

Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

How many times do you hear politicians clamouring for kids to "put down the books and go outside"?

Not often, if at all.  But why not?  Reading involves the same lack of physical activity as video games.  Why is electronic media outed as the obstacle to physical activity?

Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

How much time is an average kid spending reading vs in front of an electronic media? You've got your answer. They also don't ask to put the knitting down, pretty much for the same reason...

Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

I know plenty of kids (and adults) who spend hours a day reading.

Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

I know plenty of people that think, anecdotal evidence is worth something.

Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

This doesn't sound so bad so long as he's wording it right. Saying something like "Video games are o.k. but only in moderation, kids need outside exercise too" would be a start.

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Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

 One has to be careful about using 'what we were designed to live like' as a justification for something considering nature put us together to have population densities orders of magnitudes lower then our current ones, groups of only about 20-30 people, lifespans that might reach 30, girls spending all their time pregant or nursing (menstration is a bit of a malfunction, it should not happen every month) starting at around 12, infant mortality rates should be around 25%, and males would be disposible creatures that mostly died early on, saving the breeding oppurtunities for a smaller pool of older males.

So yeah... by today's standards, how humans are 'designed' to function really sucks.

Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

It also assumes we were "designed" at all.  Reality is, humans develop the way they develop.  The ones who adapt pass on their genetic material and those traits become favored for survival in the world as it exists now.  If anything, the way it's "supposed" to work is that people should spend more time out doors (people, not just kids) because the future of the human race will depend on our descendants having physical characteristics built to withstand harsher UV rays and more extreme temparatures.  If kids can't handle being outdoors NOW, from an evolutionary perspective, they are less favorable candidates for passing on their genetic material (but will still be able to do so because of socially, rather than biologically, favored traits).

Then again, I suppose that problem kind of solves itself when the outdoors becomes severe enough that people start ACTUALLY DYING when they can't handle the outdoors.  But it's just a shame that all those people will have to die someday.

Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

Science is what we know to be truth it dose not have to be mutuality exclusive with religion when all it wants is to say we may be wrong or incomplete on some things.


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Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

Fair enough, but even if you want to put a religious bent to it, at best you could say we are designed to adapt -- which means that "design" or "human nature" still has to demur to environment.  Either that or take the fatalistic approach that we were always meant to be exactly what we are at this point, and therefore we are meant to be someday what we will be.  Regardless, it doesn't make sense from a scientific perspective to say we're "designed" for any specific thing.

Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

Meh religion/God is what you make of it, some are hell bent on making vague ancient texts relevant for today no matter how inane and ridiculous hey are....

 

I like to think science is what we know/understand and god is magic/mystical  IE what we do not know or understand. And even if we understand everything as flawed beings there will always be a process to things we can not explain.

 


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Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

Right, we were designed to live in small, wandering tribes, hunt wild animals and gather wild plants for food, occasionally fight off predators and other tribes, and have a high infant mortality rate to keep our numbers in check.

We weren't designed to be a species with nearly 7 billion members that decide to bend the world to our will.  We were designed to rest because we had to, to run and climb because we had to, to travel long distances because we had to, not because it was an option.

We have done a splendid job of making the things that we weren't designed to do the norm, and to make the things we were designed to do an optional activity.  We weren't designed to take over the world, yet we did.  We weren't designed to harness the powers of electricity and the atom, yet we did.  We weren't designed to go to outer space and land on the moon, yet we did.

We took over a great deal of the planet.  We're pretty much in charge of all land-based life.  If you'd like us to return to the ways that we were designed to live, then please figure out a way to destroy modern civilization and have the human race return to about 2 million people give or take and without triggering nuclear war.  Destroy all buildings and all means of creating buildings.  Destroy all modern means of transportation.  And destroy all medicine and hospitals, because without a high infant mortality rate, we'll just overrun the world again.  And if you see anyone building a city, kill them on sight.

Only by taking all of these ridiculous steps, and more steps that I haven't been able to think of, will we return to the way that we were designed to live.

 

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“It's just kids are not physically active. They're sitting down for an appalling length of time".

Yes, it´s called school time.

 

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Re: Canadian MP Turned off by Games, Media

Well with new parenting teaching parents that the outside is evil,that dirt is evil that the outside is bad for you because of people,pollen and strangers I don;t think you can blame media for it....... either you treat life as something to do or hide from it like I do..... because there are simply to many rules to follow and to many people to deal with....


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