Game Community Response May Have Slowed Pro-R18+ Movement

May 11, 2010 -

The strong response from Australia’s gaming community to the R18+ issue may have backfired a bit, as the government is now delaying discussion of the issue in order to get feedback from more of the community.

GameSpot notes that Minister for Home Affairs Brendan O’Connor indicated that, “…further work needs to be done before a decision can be made.” When pressed, O’Connor told the publication that “ministers had agreed that a broader consultation of the public's views was needed following the dominant response from ‘interest groups.’”

While a spokesperson from O’Connor’s office indicated that “interest groups” referenced the 34 community, church, and other groups that lodged submissions in the public consultation, GameSpot wrote that, “given that submissions were dominated by pro-R18+ interest groups (EB Games and Grow Up Australia), the intended meaning seems clear.”

Perhaps the AU government doesn’t understand that gamers now permeate just about every corner of culture, a point made by Interactive Games and Entertainment Association (iGEA) President Ron Curry, who stated, “I’m not sure how the [Home Affairs] minister pigeon-holes them as an 'interest group', because gamers cover all facets of society.”

Curry, who also noted that a recent poll indicated that 68% of Australians are gamers, continued:

If consultations, by their nature, attract submissions from people who are passionate about an issue--and I assume passionate in both opposition and support--then why bother?


Thanks Ryan!


Comments

Re: Game Community Response May Have Slowed Pro-R18+ ...

Maybe now the AU government will come to it's senses on this issue and let it rest. It has taken them a really extremely long time to know that 68% of Australian's are gamers. Hmmmm.....the government there is far behind and needs to catch up with times.

 

 

"It's better to be hated for who you are, then be loved for who you are not." - Montgomery Gentry

"It's better to be hated for who you are, then be loved for who you are not." - Montgomery Gentry

Re: Game Community Response May Have Slowed Pro-R18+ ...

I would perhaps not listen to anything that the Minister of Home Affairs is saying at the moment. (HE is not an Attorney General anyway, so who cares of what he is saying)

From what I understand, is that the Attorney Generals are still making their mind up on the issue weighing up all options that they could do, perhaps trying to get more informed decisions or something like that.

Well done Australian gamers for doing their part, we have got nothing to be dissapointed it.

The only thing that we only have to be dissapointed in is that there are not many gamers in politics who can speak more to the Australian media and get more support from people who either don't know about the issue or either don't care about us...

Lets just make sure that the next Attorney Generals after the state and federal elections in other parts of Australia are more even minded and can made decisions early just so we don't have to wait as long, or else this would prove that politicians know nothing about computer games, therefore they are not suitable to make decisions.

I'd like to say that we need a change in the classification system, allow the classification board to make their own decisions on what they want to do and not have them bined by the government's decisions on whether to include an R18+ rating for computer games...

 

anyway, we as Aussie gamers have got nothing to be dissapointed about, we did our best and that is all we could do, and a 98% positive vote out of over 60,000 submissions to the government is perhaps the strongest indicator that we do need an R18+ rating for computer games, even if most of society does not care about us, we have proven that there are allot of people who do care and that is all we can do.

TBoneTony

Re: Game Community Response May Have Slowed Pro-R18+ ...

Yeah, this smells of something. Government would be hilariously amusing if it couldn't at the same time be so dangerous.

Re: Game Community Response May Have Slowed Pro-R18+ ...

This is just a delay in the process. It's Federal Election year. My guess is that the Government doesn't want to rock the boat with the Christian/Lunatic Fringe.

One of the things you need to realise is that most of the popular media is traditionally heavily conservative (not unlike FOX) and Labour governments are always facing criticism from that front. If it doesn't make the news then they're nothing to report on and nothing for the media to blow out of all proportion.

With the amount of support behind change, the change will happen .... it will just happen AFTER the election.

Re: Game Community Response May Have Slowed Pro-R18+ ...

So their plan is to get people who are not interested in the R18 debate to make commetns on it? Seriously? They had this request for comment open for months. You would think that those that were interested in voicing their opinion on the subject would have done so.What do they plan to do differently this time? How will they attract comments from those that do not care about the issue? E. Zachary Knight Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: Game Community Response May Have Slowed Pro-R18+ ...

I think many of the traditional power blocks were fairly quiet due to the 'of course it would be' attitude that took the status-quo as a given.  They had no idea anyone would challenge it in any real amount.

Re: Game Community Response May Have Slowed Pro-R18+ ...

I have to agree witn  Neeneko.  Had the government gotten a disproportional number of responses from "activist" groups against R18+, would they have delayed their response to solicit more responses from pro R18+ groups?

Re: Game Community Response May Have Slowed Pro-R18+ ...

 I doubt this is a delay caused by the Pro-R18+ movement.

Generally governments are fine with one sided lobbying from specific interest groups, so that is not the issue.   More likely they were getting concerned about lobbying from a non-established group for something that was a forgone conclusion  from their traditional sources.   So now they have to find a way to counter this new lobby without pissing off older ones, thus they are making double sure that the older ones have a disproportionally loud voice at the table.

So it is less of a delay of something already in motion (that would have gone forward without Pro-R18+ groups) and more of a 'oh shit, things are moving without an established power! quick! how can we make sure our friends stay powerful while giving the illusion of fairness?'

Re: Game Community Response May Have Slowed Pro-R18+ ...

If it means there are more comprehensive arguments in place, on both sides of the fence, then surely that can only be a good thing in the long term.

 
Forgot your password?
Username :
Password :

Poll

Will Code Avarice's Paranautical Activity make its way back onto Steam?:

Shout box

You're not permitted to post shouts.
Technogeekhttp://www.newsweek.com/gamergate-about-media-ethics-or-harassing-women-harassment-data-show-27973610/25/2014 - 8:54pm
TechnogeekAnd speaking of harassment and Gamergate, Newsweek had a social media analytics company analyze the hashtag in the interest of finding out what the movement was really about. The results should surprise absolutely nobody at this point.10/25/2014 - 8:54pm
Neo_DrKefkaI was called a traitor for speaking out on harassment and I was put on a list for people on twitter to mass report me. Only GamerGate site that has come out of this that has been reputable would be TechRaptor. 2/210/25/2014 - 7:09pm
Neo_DrKefka@Neeneko The reason why I ended my support of #GamerGate was the fact KingofPol (The guy who was sent the knife) ended up saying crap about those with autism. At this point I confronted the community and some big wig writers on the #GamerGate side. 1/210/25/2014 - 7:08pm
NeenekoIt would also mean they have to confront that the sites already mostly cater to them and wiping that small percentage of otherness just does not justify new sites.10/25/2014 - 6:55pm
Neeneko@ quiknkold - problem is it has never been about freedom, it is about dominance, ownership, and priviliage. women and minorities should be the ones leaving and creating their own spaces, not them!10/25/2014 - 6:54pm
Neo_DrKefka@Mecha I hear you about KingofPol this is a guy who is using GamerGate to boost his career. Most of his streams are crap about him talking about him being drunk. What happened to him was wrong but it doesn't change the fact he has instigated much of this10/25/2014 - 5:40pm
Craig R.And I'll be perfectly happy in never seeing the phrase 'false flag' ever again, as it is one of the worst notions to ever come out of the camp of the tinfoil brigade that is already completely overused.10/25/2014 - 3:50pm
Craig R.Gone for a week and come back to find GG didn't go away at all. Dammit.10/25/2014 - 3:48pm
Matthew Wilsonif they were serious, they would go to youtube. most youtube game reviewers tend to revew games as product, and tend leave social issues out of it.10/25/2014 - 1:42pm
quiknkoldif the gamergaters were serious, they'd realize that Kotaku and Polygon arent the only games in town, and that with the freedom of the internet, they could create their own websites and achieve the goals they are trying to achieve without arguement.10/25/2014 - 1:35pm
james_fudgehe should have called the police.10/25/2014 - 1:20pm
TechnogeekAt least my statement still holds if it does turn out to be a false flag.10/25/2014 - 1:03pm
NeenekoThough I admit, since doxxing and false flag where heavily used tactics of the GG supporters, while they are not historical tactics used by detractors, I am skeptical how much it is really 'both sides' doing it in any real volume.10/25/2014 - 1:01pm
NeenekoOne thing that makes all of this messy is 'false flag' is a serious concern here. It does not help that the original GG instigators were also known for doing elaborate false flags to discredit feminism themselves.10/25/2014 - 12:59pm
MechaCrashThe guy who got the knife is the one who advocated doxxing, by the way, and was getting court documents about Zoe Quinn so he could publicly post them. It doesn't make what happened to him right, but he deserves no sympathy.10/25/2014 - 12:42pm
TechnogeekNo, that's a pretty shitty thing to do and I fully support the responsible parties getting a visit from the relevant legal authorities.10/25/2014 - 12:17pm
Neo_DrKefkaSomeone anyone tell me how two wrongs somehow make a right? This is becoming exhausting and both sides are out of there minds!10/25/2014 - 11:40am
Neo_DrKefkaSo two GamerGate supporters received a knife and syringe in the mail today. The same GamerGate supporters who said how awful it was were seen in other tweets gathering lists and sending our similar threats or harassment to shut down the other side....10/25/2014 - 11:36am
NeenekoJust look at how interviews are handled. Media tends to pit someone who is at best a journalist, but usually entertainer, against an expert, and it is presented and percieved as if they are equals.10/25/2014 - 7:38am
 

Be Heard - Contact Your Politician