Avalanche Boss Talks 'Always On' DRM

May 25, 2010 -

Avalanche boss Cristofer Sundberg says that DRM solutions like Ubisoft's "always on" protection do more harm than good. Speaking to CVG, Sundberg said that DRM like Ubisoft's does more to punish consumers than it does pirates; who considered cracking it the "ultimate Rubix Cube."

Pirates and crackers do so love to be challenged. But more than that, Sundberg noted that this kind of DRM is the sign of a "scared market" that doesn't fully grasp how much ill will it creates with consumers who simply want to buy and enjoy a game without hassles.

"Games have become a luxurious form of entertainment and piracy has scared the market to start implementing ridiculous DRM solutions that only limits the consumers that actually PAY for their games, not stopping the pirates," he told CVG. "As PC sales constantly dropping, they are a small group of very dedicated PC players who deserves a game designed for them and I strongly believe that PC games and console games are two completely different games.

Sundberg wants PC gamers to be treated fairly with an experience that is of the same quality that console players enjoy without afterthought ports and security solutions that do nothing but aggravate consumers.

"If we constantly keep on delivering console ports and not games design for the PC player, the PC market will suffer from bad sales, piracy and bad DRM solutions, continued Sundberg. "I strongly believe that most PC players are online players and online games are so much easier to design that we both protect the developer against piracy - and the consumer against a limited game experience. I wish that future PC projects are treated just the same way as we would treat Wii, PSP or DS - they are treated as separate projects in order to deliver a different but equally entertaining experience to all players."

The PC version of Avalanche's Just Cause 2 used no DRM, according to CVG.

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Re: Avalanche Boss Talks 'Always On' DRM

SO in his words the game industry is going the way the music industry has ever since the tape recorder came out.

Re: Avalanche Boss Talks 'Always On' DRM

No, while carrying a similar meaning, those are not his words. They are yours. His are written above. That's pretty much what "in his words" means...

Re: Avalanche Boss Talks 'Always On' DRM

Right, I did word that badly. but ya, it rings of what the music industry began doing and is still doing.

Re: Avalanche Boss Talks 'Always On' DRM

Just Cause 2 only works on win 7 and uses steam for DRM.....

 

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Anyway its simple to be build a DRM that looks at key overuse, the more of the same key on at the same time the more likely that key is bad no need to fool with tracking installs, no fooling with activation if its on it looks for the net if it can't find the net at worst it turns online stuff off.


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Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Let's renegotiate them.

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Re: Avalanche Boss Talks 'Always On' DRM

Well steam is the only good DRM ever made. I for one never had a problem with it. Just Cause 2 also works for vista too.

http://www.magicinkgaming.com/

Re: Avalanche Boss Talks 'Always On' DRM

Untill steam seamlessly integrates offline and online modes(when playing an online module and online goes out the online mode will suspend itself untill it comes back, if you have no online at all it stays off).

 

GOG>steam!

 


I have a dream, break the chains of copy right oppression! http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/2010/05/21/cigital-disobedience/


Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Let's renegotiate them.

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Re: Avalanche Boss Talks 'Always On' DRM

No, It works for Vista too.

Re: Avalanche Boss Talks 'Always On' DRM

Well Steam is DRM done right, so that's not all bad.

Re: Avalanche Boss Talks 'Always On' DRM

Steam is "DRM done right", solely because of the insanity of the bad DRM. Steam is "DRM done right" if you live alone, never lend games to friends and never sell used games. Having to lock my brother out of Counterstrike whenever I want to play Team Fortress doesn't feel particularly "done right" to me.

Re: Avalanche Boss Talks 'Always On' DRM

Agree...

One should really create a new steam-account for every game...

 

Re: Avalanche Boss Talks 'Always On' DRM

Good for Avalanche.  Can anybody recommend a game of theirs I should buy?  I have a sudden urge to give them my business.

Re: Avalanche Boss Talks 'Always On' DRM

They have 3 games out. Just Cause, Just Cause 2 and The Hunter.

 
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