Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind Followers

June 29, 2010 -

A Canadian researcher (and conspiracy theorist), who focuses on the “causative forces behind major changes in historical development” and believes that culture is “created and altered by those in control, always to lead the people like sheep into the next pasture,” believes that videogames, of course, are a part of this process.

Alan Watt has written a series of books on the subject and operates a website entitled Cutting Through the Matrix. In a YouTube video, Watts says about humanity, “The average person is so out of touch, so incredibly out of touch, with the only true reality there is, that it’s a different world all together. They cannot tell fact from fiction anymore.”

On entertainment in general he offers, “You cannot be entertained today and enjoy it. If you watch any of these movies… as soon as you’ve identified with these characters, you’ve lost it and you’ve been indoctrinated. They are downloading into you.”

Watts then says that America’s Army is “just like the Manchurian Candidate” in terms of its programming of players. He continued:

They are putting money into videogames to get the children hooked on a fantasy, to train them to just kill the enemy target when they go abroad. No doubt in this game they’ll be using the clothing of the target that they will eventually be set against. That’s the kind of world we live in now.

 

And you think you’re all free. You think that your children are free and here you are being indoctrinated and allowing your children, not just to be indoctrinated, but to be basically brought up with a military mentality and a killer mentality and you think that’s ok.

He thinks that all videogames were designed in order “to create generations of soldiers.”

In a recent transcript posted to his site, Watts offers another take on videogames:

In this society, as I say, they've already been weaponized, the children, with video games that were meant to desensitize them into killing.  And they're doing an awful lot of killing abroad.  Incredible killing. And enjoying it in fact, really enjoying it, as we've seen from the exposés from Wikileaks and others.  They really enjoy it. 

 

If you look into the military websites, you'll get shocked at all the photographs they put up there to send home.  Putting their fingers in the hole of their first kill and so on, it doesn't matter who it is or what it is.  And you're supposed to be proud of these characters.

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Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

This guy is a looney. He needs to focus more on conspiracy theories involving the government rather than video games being conspiracy theory. Although, I think that video games are made for the purpose of letting the gamer & others around him/her prepare us for what will happen in the future subconsciously. Very interesting to point out though. & the guy in the vid needs to do something better with his time.

 

 

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Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

"They are putting money into videogames to get the children hooked on a fantasy, to train them to just kill the enemy target when they go abroad."

Too bad they didn't put money into getting kids to work out so they'll be fit to join the army, right?

Wait a second... fit, as in Wii Fit...

oh nooooooooooooooo

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Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

This guy must own stock in tinfoil hats.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

I get the feeling he was never allowed much entertainment as a child, or he just too The Matrix series way too seriously.

If anything is trying to create blind followers it's usually religion, the school systems, anti-game activists, just those who try to crush anything that can transfer ideas.

Hell, most of the anti-game activists seem to be unable to tell fantasy from reality, most gamers I know are fine. If anyone can't tell fantasy from reality, it's conspiracy theorists.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

It must be sad, frustrating, and lonely to be constantly afraid of everything.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

His view on popular culture is one I've heard before.

“created and altered by those in control, always to lead the people like sheep into the next pasture,”

I couldn't tell you who wrote it or what publication it was from, but this was one of the theories about popular culture I was assigned to read in school.  Elite culture vs. popular culture.  It's something I believe has pangs of truth but Mr. Watt seems to take it like a true conspiracist.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

We hear that from absolutely everyone who is agaisnt today's cultures that weren't their own.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

Sounds like he's basically reading from the same playbook that Dave Grossman and Jack Thompson have been.  *yawn*  At least he's just a lone conspiracy nut and not a former military officer, a lawyer or any other kind of authority figure that would give one the impression that his words had some weight.  Nothing new to see here.  Move on.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

To the nutjob that made this conspiracy theory up.... America's Army does not represent the gaming industry.

Also, video games will not make you join the army, not even America's Army.

http://www.magicinkgaming.com/

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

I can't even stay in a GUILD longer than 3 months, what the hell makes this guy think I'm going to sign up for the army? It'd be inefficient too- part of it would consist of noobs that don't know how to play the game, part of it would consist of trolls and teamkillers, and part of it would consist of people who spend every waking moment mastering the game, to the point where they're the only ones that would need to be sent in in order to complete a mission witht he fewest men possible.

... If games actually trained people, that is.

If it were paintball course being backed by military advertising, then there'd be SOME semblence of credibility, but no- point and click.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

The average person is so out of touch, so incredibly out of touch, with the only true reality there is, that it’s a different world all together. They cannot tell fact from fiction anymore.

 

While his way of presenting the fact is a little flamboyant, Watt is not far from the mark.

 

I saw Watt in a documentary recently where he made the same point. (I'll refrain from mentioning the name of the show as I don't want to start a flame war). Younger people have, for the most part, buried there head in the sand as it come to things like politics. I'm not referring to the people that come here. If your reading this, than you already have an interest.

 

I'm 24 and in the military. I can say that almost ALL of the people in my unit don't have any idea what the government is doing. They don't watch the news or read the newspaper. They don't research controversial issues to find out which side is the truth. All I hear about is what happen at the club or what level of prestige they are on Modern Warfare. They care more about their Facebook page then who is most qualified to be in a position of government power. I have yet to have a good conversation about politics within my age group. In my opinion, these are the modern day underachievers that comprise most of the youth in this country.

 

I had a collage course where I gave a speech about Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade. Out of 30 classmates, NOT ONE had ever heard about it.

 

I had an debate with a co-worker about illegal immigrates. She said the illegals were good for the US because ALL Americas are lazy and wanted too much money. (I call bullshit on that one)

 

I guess my point is wasted here because you all already care about the issues that affect free speech. That is why your on GamePolitics. It's those that don't give a shit till it directly affects them. I tell those people to pick up a paper, watch the news, go online, research and shut off the movies and video games at least once in a while. Is that too much to ask?

 

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

Also, maybe if you referred to it as the American Clean Energy Act your classmates would have known what you were talking about. Most people are familiar with the idea of selling things like carbon offsets and also this is a bill that has not been passed into law yet. It really doesn't help your case when you come off as arrogant, basically you are subtly making the point that you are very smart and worldly while your peers are ignorant goofs. Hopefully you will learn how off putting that is as you grown older.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

No. After explaining what it was, still no one had heard of it. This was back in 2009.

 

I feel no shame that I am generally above my peers. I strive to better myself by going to collage, keeping up on current events, and learning new things. They have the same opportunities I do. I just do something about it.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

If you're going to tout your education and awareness, you might want to learn how to spell the word "college." It's not "collage," unless of course your education consists of gluing macaroni onto a piece of cardboard. Also, I've never heard of "illegal immigrates" before.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

Typos. You're attacking him for typos. Cute.

 

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

Uh, no. Those weren't typos, they were examples of genuine ignorance. It's not a typo when one spells it "collage" 3 separate times, and there's just no way you could accidentally type  "immigrates" instead of "immigrants."

I rarely bother to point out spelling and/or grammar errors, but when some guy displays his ignorance while trying to show everyone how smart and aware he is, I just have to say something. Hypocrisy and self delusion are annoying. If this guy is the best and brightest of his age group, god help us.

 

 

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

I've known brilliant people who are terrible spellers, but yeah, this DOES kinda smell like "not as smart as he thinks he is" to me.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

You and your comrades are just kids. You're fortunate to have an interest in politics at your age; I sure as hell didn't... Most of your comrades will mature in time. I mean, let's face it -- In this day in age, it's hard to grow up fast.

It's like what they are starting to say, "26 is the new 21". Nonetheless, it *could* be an issue. Yet, I don't understand the logic to oppose a bill that bans kids from buying video games rated for an age group 17+... I guess the real argument is perhaps "unconstitutional"?

Otherwise, I'm all for it.

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"Because this town is under the stranglehold of a few tight eyed Tree Huggers who would rather play Hacky Sack than lock up the homeless" -- Birch Barlow

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Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

"I don't understand the logic to oppose a bill that bans kids from buying video games rated for an age group 17+"

So you're perfectly fine with making it the law of the land that an unelected and unresponsive group (the ESRB) can decide for everyone what games people should be allowed to play?

I'm not fine with that, and neither should anyone else unless he/she is a fascist.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

So I guess this means your against Movie ratings from the MPAA as well?

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"Because this town is under the stranglehold of a few tight eyed Tree Huggers who would rather play Hacky Sack than lock up the homeless" -- Birch Barlow

---------------------------------------- "Because this town is under the stranglehold of a few tight eyed Tree Huggers who would rather play Hacky Sack than lock up the homeless" -- Birch Barlow

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

Not just unelected but PRIVATE.

The FCC is unelected (and God knows I have my problems with the FCC), but it's still a government entity.  The ESRB is not.  Any law based on ESRB ratings gives government powers to a private entity.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

"26 is the new 21"

Isn't that part of the point.

I'm not saying that there is a conspiracy, masterminded by the government. I'm saying that the youth has far more distractions these days than in the past. These distractions (such as video games, movies, television and social connecting websites) are considered more important than what happens on capital hill. Personally, I blame parents for not taking in interest in their kids lives. My father made sure I was aware of what was happening in the world.

By the way, there was two other people my age in my collage class. Everyone else was late twenties – early thirties. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a “kid.” Excuse me while take my Flintstones vitamins and drink my milk so I can grow up to be a big, responsible adult like everyone around me.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

Where you make your mistakeis where many younger people make their mistake. When presented with a lack of good data they assume based off of their beliefs. Inherent in your argument that kids today bury their head in the sand and ignore politics is the idea that in the past this was not the case. Historically the youth has been less interested in the politcal process, this is evident by the strong influence of seniors and senior lobby groups in politics. While a smaller percentage of the population, voter turn out in that age range is typically the highest of any other age group.

 

You need to go look at concrete data for your theories or you're no different from this youtube crackpot. Check out voter registration and turn out among youths of voting age, look at the percentage of youths who volunteer in politcal campaigns. People often suffer from confirmation bias, where all of your anecdotal evidence is confirming your already held beliefs.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

When presented with a lack of good data they assume based off of their beliefs.

 

I don't assume anything. This is coming from experience from talking with my peers. This isn't an extensive polling of the America people. Just the people I've talk to. Most don't seem to care about politics till it's time for the presidential election. Then, they just choose the most charismatic guy.

 

Check out voter registration and turn out among youths of voting age, look at the percentage of youths who volunteer in political campaigns.

 

Youth voter turnout is not a measure of whether our not those people are making informed choices. No one should vote because someone is “cool” or because someone make promises. The current problem we have today is that any political office up for election is turned into a popularity contest. This isn't just a youth problem but a problem with most voters. Our elections have turned into “American Idol” only less popular.

 

People often suffer from confirmation bias, where all of your anecdotal evidence is confirming your already held beliefs.

 

My beliefs come from my upbringing, environment, experience, etc, etc. Prove me wrong. You give no hard facts to disprove my argument. I haven't given hard facts because it's my opinion based off my own experiences.

 

Once more to reiterate, I don't think there is some government conspiracy to turn the youths of America into mindless masses. I think there doing that well enough on there own.

 

I find it funny that I'm being attacked because I'm 24 years old. You talk down to me like an 8 year old who doesn't know what he's talking about. This is the same age group that your defending as smart, well informed group of voters.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

"Most don't seem to care about politics till it's time for the presidential election. Then, they just choose the most charismatic guy."

Are you suggesting that's not true of people over 30?

I think, on the whole, people of ALL ages vote for charisma over policy.  Obama, Clinton, Reagan, Kennedy...all of them got votes by being good speakers and charming people.

Hell, 2/3 of the principal cast of Predator has gone on to be elected governor of one state or another.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

Are you suggesting that's not true of people over 30?

 

Not at all. I completely agree with you. I feel it just more of a problem with younger voters.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

 

"I don't assume anything. This is coming from experience from talking with my peers. This isn't an extensive polling of the America people. Just the people I've talk to. Most don't seem to care about politics till it's time for the presidential election. Then, they just choose the most charismatic guy."

That's the problem. You personal experience doesn't reflect all people of that age. The people you met do not make for enough data to make a claim on a certain group within the country. It could be that your peers happen to reflect the attitude of most their age group. Or they could be the minority.The point is that your anecdotal evidence may have lead to a hasty generalization.

"My beliefs come from my upbringin, enviroment, experience, etc., etc. Prove me wrong. You give no hard facts to disprove my argument. I haven't given hard fact because it's my opinion based off of my own experiences."

Which means that no one has to disprove it, just show the logical problems with your assumptions and what they're based on. I mean, if you have no hard facts, then it's not much of an argument to begin with.

 

 

 

 

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

It's based off the people I've met in the last five years or so. So, yes. It is a generalization. Still, I somehow find it hard to believe that I just happen to run into people that don't care. I have had some good conversations about politics but I couldn't count them all on one hand. It may be possible that those best and brightest minds of my generation have all walked pass and I got stuck talking to rejects.

 

Yes, it is a generalization and an opinion. I'm not about to conduct a sociological study to find the whether or not my assumptions are correct. If the trend changes and all the people I talk to are smart and well informed, then my assumptions will change.

 

If you read back to my original post you'll find:

 

In my OPINION, these are the modern day underachievers that comprise most of the youth in this country.

(I never claimed any facts in my first post, except those from experience)

 

Some of you will know more independent thinkers. Some of you will know more people that just follow what everyone else is doing.

 

It was meant for everyone to think about the younger people you know. Do they really care about the things they say to believe. Did they decide for themselves or did someone nudge them. Did they research the topic to find out the real truth or did they just believe whatever they were told.

 

Instead, I get insulted because of my age and spelling ability. Must make everyone here feel good about themself, I guess.

 

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

By the way, there was two other people my age in my collage class. Everyone else was late twenties – early thirties. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a “kid.” Excuse me while take my Flintstones vitamins and drink my milk so I can grow up to be a big, responsible adult like everyone around me.

Pffffttthaahaha... Arrogance and ignorance is also a big issue with kids today.

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"Because this town is under the stranglehold of a few tight eyed Tree Huggers who would rather play Hacky Sack than lock up the homeless" -- Birch Barlow

---------------------------------------- "Because this town is under the stranglehold of a few tight eyed Tree Huggers who would rather play Hacky Sack than lock up the homeless" -- Birch Barlow

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

Just checked his website. Apart from being a nutjob's one, it looked soooo 90's. Hasn't he heard about CSS ? Or does he think that CSS is indeed a part of the *Big Conspiracy* ?

 

More seriously, I agree with Thad : he's not 100% wrong. But actually, many anti-violence activists aren't 100% wrong. The only problem is that their extremism ruins any credibility they could have.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

Jean Baudrillard beat him to it, methinks.

 

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

Obvious nutjob is obvious.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

The average person is so out of touch, so incredibly out of touch, with the only true reality there is, that it’s a different world all together. They cannot tell fact from fiction anymore.

If I didn't think he was batshit insane, I might be insulted. Except he is.


as soon as you’ve identified with these characters, you’ve lost it and you’ve been indoctrinated

Translation: "The idea of feelings, sympathy, and connecting with a charcter's plight is a part of The Matrix."

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

His argument MIGHT work if videogames only contained FPS's. However, a large number of games teach critical thinking, logic, distrust of authority... generally things you don't want sheep to have.

The concept that you can't identify with anyone else without being dominated by their personality makes him seem borderline sociapathic.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

"His argument MIGHT work if videogames only contained FPS's."

Indeed; this invites another comparison to Wertham.  While his contermporaries were mainly worried about kids reading crime comics, Wertham used the phrase "crime comics" to describe ALL comics, including Superman.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

Wow, Fredric Wertham much?

I mean, okay, he's not 100% wrong; America's Army is CLEARLY a recruitment tool to get people interested in joining the Army.  But that's not exactly a secret conspiracy.  Turning it into "ALL GAMES EXIST TO CORRUPT OUR YOUTH" pretty much sacrifices whatever nugget of credibility he brought to the argument.

(Wertham wasn't entirely wrong either -- Wonder Woman, for example, really WAS the work of a sexual deviant deliberately bringing coded hints of lesbianism and bondage into a children's comic in a way that purposefully avoided scrutiny from standards and practices.  But he took it too far too -- Superman was certainly not nazi propaganda, and the first-generation Jewish Americans who wrote, drew, edited, and published it had a pretty good reason to be offended by that accusation.)

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

You're being a little too extreme, I think.  William Moulton Marston wasn't what I'd call a sexual deviant.  He lived an alternative lifestyle, yes.  Specifically, he was in a polyamorous relationship with both his wife and his secretary.  He had several children between them and they all lived together happily in the same house.  Both women continued to live together and raise each other's children long after his death.  In fact, his secretary, Olive Richard, wrote a piece in Family Circle in 1940 in which Marston was interviewed, that took the stance that comic books were actually good for kids!

Was he into bondage?  That's open to speculation.  Looking at his life, there's nothing really to indicate that he was, yet nothing to deny it either.  Still, it's off-base to label him a sexual deviant just becuase he had a relationship that was outside the norm.  Plus he also gave us the lie-detector (itself an inspriation for Wonder Woman's lasso of truth), so he shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

A sexual deviant is anyone who deviates from societal norms. So it's absolutely true that he was a sexual deviant. I think you may be ascribing too much negativity to the term.

As for the lie detector, most people these days (thanks in large part to 'Penn & Teller's Bullshit') know it's a scam and useless.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

Thanks; you got my intent right.  I DID think twice about using that phrase due to its negative connotation, but decided to go ahead since it's literally accurate.  I don't personally have any problem with Marston's lifestyle; to each his own -- but it was certainly an atypical one.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

 Gave us the lie detector?  That useless piece of machinery that has no scientific credibility behind it, and has a pass rate just higher than chance (60%), but yet still has such a strong force in our legal system, falsely painting thousands as guilty?

Yeah, let's thank him for that.

Re: Theorist: Games Part of Plan to Turn People into Blind ...

Sounds like Watts has been watching The Manchurian Candidate way too often

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