AU Senator: Arcade Games That Offer Prizes Train Kids to Gamble

July 7, 2010 -

Australian Senator—and fervent anti-gambling crusader—Nick Xenophon (pictured) is turning his attention to arcade games that feature gambling elements, saying that such entertainment is a “training ground” for children to learn how to gamble.

Xenophon, who previously took on mobile and PC games based on slot machines (or pokies as they are called Down Under), was joined in his latest contention by Charles Livingstone, a Monash University “electronic gaming expert,” who told the Age that such arcade games achieved a pair of purposes: “to indoctrinate kids to gambling, to make them think this is a normal part of life; and to lure children, and with them their parents, into the pokie venues.”

Calling for action from the federal government, Xenophon stated, “Legislation needs to change because these machines are a training ground for pokies. It puts kids at risk.” He added, “While mum and dad are playing pokies inside, the kids are getting trained on redemption [arcade] games just a few metres away.”

Australian Leisure and Hospitality Group spokesperson David Curry defended the venues, saying, “Quite simply, we operate family venues with a variety of entertainment opportunities for children included within that.”


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Any activity which involves some element of risk which results into a significant gain or loss can be considered gambling.

The thing is, there's a lot of that scattered in all kinds of videogames - from upgrading equipment in an MMO, using a pokeball to capture your pokemon, opening a random item chest, breeding your monsters/pets in game, etc. A lot of game elements are based on chance, some of the more rewarding ones usually involve risking something precious to the gamer to be able to have a chance at getting something more valuable. It's how you keep gamers continually interested and coming back for more.

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Xenophon is actually a pretty straight shooter and get's himself well informed when dealing with issues (such as the internet filter) outside his area of expertise.  The guy has a real bone for gambling though but generally he's seen as a positive force on the senate.

 

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Somehow I gather his definition of this is going to extend to games that give tickets too.

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A quick look at Wikipedia's entry on Australian healthcare says they have private insurance companies (in addition to government healthcare).

Just sayin'.

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From what I remember reading, Australia has (or had, it was a while ago) quite a gambling problem. And this makes sense, as chance based games definitely fall into the gambling category.

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There is only 1 game that I've seen that is purely chance and another that has a chance like option to play the game.  Colorama is pretty much Roulette for kids.  Spin to win does have a free spin option, but it is 1 out of the 7 slots on the roll-down section that the ball could end up on (4 of which will move the wheel left or right by 1 or 3 spaces, one of which that will keep the wheel in place, and one will move it to the next Bankrupt on the machine)

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Australian Senator—and fervent anti-gambling crusader—Nick Xenophon (pictured) is turning his attention to arcade games that feature gambling elements, saying that such entertainment is a “training ground” for children to learn how to gamble.
 

Why I feel the urge to bang my head against a wall 20 times? This people need to live in a thrid world country so that way they can know what is it a real social-issue related to children, not fucking co-op games.

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I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are trying to say with that comment. Are you implying they should work on problems like child soldiers? Extreme poverty? High infant mortality rates? Australia focuses on crap like this because they don't have the same social issues as a third world country, and I can guarantee that if not for the recession and the wars in the U.S.A., they would be focusing on shit like this as well.

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If he's going after straight-up chance machines, great, I'm all for it.  But he'd better stay away from Skee-Ball.

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Strange thing is, if you go coin-op in Canada, you are generally not allowed to have 'chance' in the first place.  I used to work on arcade games that shipped to canada and we were required to make all the games deterministic.....

 
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