Sony Looking at Online Pass-like Solution for First-Party Titles

August 24, 2010 -

It's bad enough when companies like THQ and EA implement programs to combat used games, but it's even worse when platform holders like Sony consider it. Speaking to GI.biz, Sony Computer Entertainment Europe CEO Andrew House said that Sony is taking "a serious look" at implementing something similar to EA's Online Pass for its first-party games.

"On the principle of making online portions of the game available or unlocked from the disc-based release for a fee, we're broadly supportive of that," House said. "And we're exploring actively the same option for our own content."

House admits that implementing such a program would be seen as contradictory to the free precedent set with PlayStation Network.

"In terms of just a charge for basic online play, that's something that we have to talk about a lot more," he said. "We struggle with [that] a little bit because we feel very vindicated and base a lot of the success of PSN today -- a 70 percent connection rate across consoles -- on the fact that we've removed that major initial barrier to entry."

While this news is a bit disheartening, there's no data available to tell how these extra charges for used games are affecting the actual sales of used games. This is probably because - at least according to what GameStop says - only 25 percent of used game buyers are interested in playing online.

Source: GI.biz, image credit


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I respect everyone else's opinion but in this case I just don't agree with them.  I personally have absolutely no problem with Online Pass-type programs for used games.

 

Andrew Eisen

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This is an attempt to get around First Sale. Once the first person sells it, they can no longer use it, ergo, the new owner should have FULL access WITHOUT having to pay more for it.

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This isn't an attempt to get around first sale, it's an attempt to make buying new a more attractive prospect than buying used.  The publishers, for obvious reasons, want players of their games to be their customers rather than someone else's.

 

Andrew Eisen

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Great, Sony just made me NOT want a PS3 anymore.

They're way ahead with good free online play. Leave it at that.

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Thankfuly I'm not looking forward to any of the ps3's 1st party exclusives, but still this is a low move.

 

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Re: Sony Looking at Online Pass-like Solution for ...

Actually I don't think you haven't tried MAG, the 256 player online shooter game. 

 


 

Re: Sony Looking at Online Pass-like Solution for ...

MAG wasn't all that great. 255 other people in a server will make sure of that. It fell victim to its own ambitions.

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The online pass is a joke that only hurts the games that you want to sell a lot of. Just look at the quickly discounted Madden 11 or the lower then expected sells of Thq's UFC 2010.

http://www.magicinkgaming.com/

 
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Goth_SkunkAnd just to be clear, that remark is firmly tongue-in-cheek, while also echoing statements made by those critical of GamerGate.06/30/2015 - 4:43pm
Goth_SkunkA fair point Andrew, and you are a very reasonable feminist. Though I would suggest that if you don't wish to be associated with the toxic elements present in feminism, I recommend disassociating yourself from them. Maybe call yourself something else? :^)06/30/2015 - 4:42pm
Andrew EisenGoth - By the by, you know how GamerGate doesn't like being painted with a broad brush? Well, I hate to speak for anyone but myself but I'm pretty confident in saying we feminists don't care for it much either.06/30/2015 - 4:10pm
Andrew EisenWell of course. Being a feminist doesn't mean rape can never be depicted in fiction.06/30/2015 - 4:03pm
InfophileIn fiction, it depends on the context. It's very easy to get "wrong," but there are cases where feminists have approved of how it's been shown (eg. the scene with Honor Harrington in the new compilation comic)06/30/2015 - 4:02pm
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Andrew EisenHe's not powerless against ghosts. That's very firmly established by that point in the movie.06/30/2015 - 3:57pm
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Goth_SkunkDream or not, it's still a scene that depicts a victim powerless to stop his attacker from engaging in an act of sex upon him. Even if he enjoys himself, it's technically rape. Hypothetically, he could feel traumatized afterwards.06/30/2015 - 3:55pm
Andrew EisenWell, he could always, you know, grab a proton pack and bust that rapey ghost! But again, it's still pretty clearly a dream.06/30/2015 - 3:53pm
ZippyDSMleeSo what dose GG stand for if its not been taken over my bigots??06/30/2015 - 3:52pm
Goth_SkunkI am assuming he's powerless to stop it, yes. I have no reason to believe a ghost would find itself in any way obligated to obey laws of corporeal beings. And it's not just about consent, but also about the means to stop the person engaging the sex.06/30/2015 - 3:51pm
Andrew EisenRape in real life? Absolutely (though "tizzy" isn't the right word). In fiction? Depends on how it's used.06/30/2015 - 3:50pm
Infophile"...it's rape. And that tends to send feminists into a tizzy." You say that as if rape isn't something to get into a tizzy about.06/30/2015 - 3:48pm
Andrew EisenBesides, it's pretty clearly a dream. Ray and the ghost are in some unknown bedroom. Then it cuts to Ray and the other guys in the firehouse beds with Ray rolling over in his sleep and falling off the bed. Looks like Egon is having a weird dream too.06/30/2015 - 3:46pm
Andrew EisenYou're assuming he's powerless to stop it. Maybe saying "no" or something would have stopped the ghost. Anyway, so, in your opinion, sex (oral or otherwise) is rape unless there's explicit consent?06/30/2015 - 3:44pm
Goth_SkunkBut, to be completely fair, that fact never dawned on me until 15 minutes ago.06/30/2015 - 3:43pm
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Andrew EisenAlways came off as a dream to me.06/30/2015 - 3:40pm
Andrew EisenThat scene really reads to you like Stantz was being raped?06/30/2015 - 3:39pm
 

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