The latest Extra Credits video, as seen on The Escapist, takes on the Schwarzenegger vs EMA Supreme Court case, offering a rather complete overview for those who might not be totally up to speed on what this action could mean for gamers.
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Technogeek: If the developer were male there wouldn't have been a "conversation" in the first place.10/19/2014 - 2:27am
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Monte: trolls are just at their absolute worst when it comes to women and feminist. You could bet good money that if the developer were male the trolls would be silent and the conversation would actually focus on the journalism.10/18/2014 - 9:18pm
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Monte: Papa: Not the first time we've had a journalism scandals before, but the harassment never got close to this level; the difference with this scandal is that feminists are involved. Without the feminist angle, their would be A LOT less harrassment10/18/2014 - 9:15pm
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Papa Midnight: Monte: That's honestly rather short-sighted. As has been proven with other persons who have been targeted, if it wasn't Quinn, it would be someone else.10/18/2014 - 6:26pm
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Avalongod: I think that's part of what gives an esoteric news story like this real life...it taps into a larger narrative about misogyny in society outside of games.10/18/2014 - 3:29pm
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Avalongod: @Monte, well the trolls made death threats that came to police (and media attention). I think this is tapping into a larger issue outside of games about how women are treated in society (like all the "real rape" stuff during the last election)10/18/2014 - 3:28pm
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Wonderkarp: Zippy : Havent tried the PS4 controller. might later.10/18/2014 - 2:37pm
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Monte: Seirously, If Quinn was not involved and GG was instead about something like the Mordor Marketing contracts, the trolling would have never grown so vile and disgusting. There have been plenty of movements in the past that never sufferred from behavior..10/18/2014 - 1:57pm
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Monte: We have seen scandel's before but the trolling has never been as vile as what we see with GG. Trolls usually have such a tiny voice you can barely notice them, but its like moths to a flame whenever femistist are involved.10/18/2014 - 1:53pm
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ZippyDSMlee: Wonderkarp: You might be able to if you had a PS4 controller.10/18/2014 - 1:00pm
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MaskedPixelante: http://store.steampowered.com/app/327940/ Night Dive starts charging for freeware.10/18/2014 - 12:21pm
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Matthew Wilson: the sad thing is there are trolls on both sides of this. people need to stop acting like their side is so pure.10/18/2014 - 12:19pm
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MechaTama31: So, only speak out on a scandal that hasn't attracted trolls? I wouldn't hold my breath...10/18/2014 - 10:49am
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Monte: I feel like GG just needs to die. The movement is FAR to tainted by hatred and BS for it to be useful for any conversation. Let GG die, and then rally behind the NEXT gaming journalism scandal, and start the conversation fresh.10/18/2014 - 10:33am
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quiknkold: and we dont have a Dovakin to call a cease fire10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
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quiknkold: The whole thing is Futile. Both sides are so buried deep in their trenchs that there isnt a conversation. Its just Finger Pointing, Name Calling, Doxxing, Threats. there needs to be a serious conversation, and GG isnt it.10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
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quiknkold: I thought it was a good article. Jeff is right. I feel like GamerGate did destroy its message. I am for Ethics in game journalism, but man. so much hate. and its on both sides. I've seen some awful stuff spewed on twitter. Its a big reason why I exited..10/17/2014 - 7:34pm
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Matthew Wilson: while he focused on gg, he did call out both sides crap.10/17/2014 - 7:18pm
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Papa Midnight: That was a damn good read offered by Jeff Gertsmann.10/17/2014 - 7:17pm
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Matthew Wilson: http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/letter-from-the-editor-10-17-2014/1100-5049/ deferentially a nice write up.10/17/2014 - 6:44pm
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Comments
Re: Extra Credits Outlines SCOTUS Case
I've always loved this guy's work.
And honestly, the optimist in me wants to say that the Supreme Court agreed tp hear this so they can halt these waste-of-tax-money laws.
And the only reason things were changed even slightly was because these laws are made by these religious and morally self-superior "My way or the highway" jerks only so they can score political points with lazy scared parents without actually doing anything.
Re: Extra Credits Outlines SCOTUS Case
Some of these people, while misguided, are genuinely sincere and trying to do what they think is good. "Don't sell certain games to minors" is a policy that's already in place at most stores, it's just not backed up by the force of the law. So to some of these people, this kind of law seems like common sense. But that's because they aren't gamers themselves, and don't see the "slipperyslope" implications inherent in their actions.
So it's not all about "moral superiority" or interfering with other people's lives. Sometimes it's just someone trying to help out where help is not needed or wanted, or they've been misled into believing the wrong things about the "dangers" of the medium.
Re: Extra Credits Outlines SCOTUS Case
Alas, as the saying goes, the road to hell is often paved with good intentions.
Government regulation is a nuclear weapon. Like the bomb, its very use is guaranteed to cause lasting damage, and it should be reserved only for those times when the harm it prevents is much worse than what it causes, and absolutely no other lesser option can do the task. It seems like many people have forgotten that, and the inclination is to ask the government to get involved first rather than as the absolute last resort.
The solution to the issue of violent videogames is the same as the solution to violent TV, movies, or any other content deemed objectionable for minors too young to make distinctions between fantasy and reality. PARENTING. It not is not the responbsibility of government to play ham-handed babysitter for parents who are too negligent to take an active role in the lives and entertainment of their children.
Having a child is a committment to putting the best interests of the life you create above any other concern in your life. People who can't make and hold to that committment should not have children.
Re: Extra Credits Outlines SCOTUS Case
Very good, I've always liked his videos. He probably could have had a few sentences on parental rights to choose the let their child play a game, but otherwise very thurough.
Re: Extra Credits Outlines SCOTUS Case
On a related note, I got an email from EA asking me to sign a petition to be given to the Court which supports keeping games protected the same as music, movies and art.
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Re: Extra Credits Outlines SCOTUS Case
Great video. :)