Fun With Polls: MyCE and DRM

September 9, 2010 -

Anecdotal evidence to be sure, but a reader poll by MyCE about DRM is nonetheless interesting. The reader poll, which surveyed 386 users, asked if "the implementation of Digital Rights Management (DRM) actually encouraged more people to illegally download cracked copies of movies or games instead of purchasing legitimate copies."

According to the results, 11 percent said no; 23 percent said it made no difference and a whopping 66 percent said yes.

Some will probably argue that the readers of the site are naturally skewed towards a negative opinion on DRM, or that the poll is highly unscientific, but the results are still interesting.

Visit the site and check out its fancy pie chart.

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Re: Fun With Polls: MyCE and DRM

Aside as noted by Axiomatic that is a very small grouping for the poll, I would actually agree with the numbers for once.  On the other hand it still goes a fair way to proving that a graph can be scewed to show whatever the person taking said poll wants them it to say.

Re: Fun With Polls: MyCE and DRM

The poll could be better but I think it is important to note that if such a small group of people can produce results like the poll had just imagine what a proper poll would reveal.

The unfortunate situation will always be marketing and management at the game or music company. When they sit in the meeting room and decide how to protect their IP that both marketing and management are always going to do "something" versus doing nothing. Until there is an alternative to DRM both management and marketing are going to apply DRM/something to their product versus applying nothing.

I side with Erasmus above me here. I avoid products with DRM like the plague. I am not a pirate but I am an avid Windows Home Server user and I strip the DRM out of everything so I can serve it up from the WHS machine and I don't see why my personal use of my media has to be labeled as "illegal" just because I'm stripping the CSS (DRM) from my DVD rips.

Re: Fun With Polls: MyCE and DRM

"The poll could be better but I think it is important to note that if such a small group of people can produce results like the poll had just imagine what a proper poll would reveal."

POLLING DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

Re: Fun With Polls: MyCE and DRM

FORUM POSTING WITH ALL CAPS DOESNT WORK EITHER.

Now that we've both screwed up lets call it even ok?

Re: Fun With Polls: MyCE and DRM

Both screwed up?  No, one of us just needs to Netflix some Futurama.

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Exactly.  A few hundred people wouldn't be enough of a random sample if the focus group was a rural Minnesota county, much less all of the gaming community of one US state, much less the country or the world.

This would be akin to asking ten random people if they believe killing babies is murder.  I'd bet all ten would say "yes," but the poll could/would be construed as "100% of the world is against abortion."

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Re: Fun With Polls: MyCE and DRM

Very poor poll.  "No" and "It makes no difference" are more or less the same answer without anything meaningful to differentiate them.  Even the poll article seems to mix them up as the graph claims it's 11% for "No" and 23% for "No difference" while the paragraph below attributes the 11% to "No difference."

Even worse is that the poll ignores other possibilities.  Where's the option for people like me, who refuse to buy products with heavy DRM but who won't pirate the products either?  That's certainly relevant to the DRM debate, and it's still a lost sale for the DRM pushers.  On the other side of the coin, there's also no option for those who generally purchase the DRM games but then consider themselves justified in using a crack or even an entire pirated copy to get around the DRM in the product that they legitimately purchased.

Re: Fun With Polls: MyCE and DRM

Good points.

I was going to say that the poll's about as relevant as a debate here in the GP comments section, but actually you've proven that people here ask much better questions.

Re: Fun With Polls: MyCE and DRM

Im not surprise 66% would say yes, DRM makes it hard for people that buy there games legally. Securom and ubisoft's solution are two particular ones that people absolutly hate.

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