Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

September 13, 2010 -

A parents' group cites a recent Zogby poll to back up its claim that adults are firmly against the sale of ultra-violent video games to minors.

Common Sense Media, a nonprofit organization, said a poll of 2100 adults showed that 65 percent of parents are "concerned about the impact of ultra-violent video games on their kids" and 75 percent of parents have a negative view of what the games industry is doing to safeguard minors from violent games, according to an article in Gamasutra.

The group's conclusion is that 72 percent of parents support California's violent video game legislation, which is coming up for consideration in front of the U.S. Supreme Court.

According to Common Sense Media CEO James Steyer:

"What we've learned from this poll is that parents want to be the ones who decide which games their kids play, not the video game industry.

Hal Halpin, head of the Entertainment Consumer Association, said:

"Given the source, I'm thoroughly unsurprised by the results of Common Sense Media's poll. The bias is self-evident. What they learned from their poll was that parents want to be the ones who decide which games their kids play... That is exactly the position of the industry. With the FTC findings, it's clear that we don't need government in that mix. Parents can and should make the determination, not the State."

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Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

Per Ars: "Here is the actual question asked in the survey, which included 2,100 adults: "Would you support or oppose a law that prohibits minors from purchasing video games that depict killing, maiming or sexually assaulting an image of a human being?" Forty-six percent of the adult respondents would somewhat support the law, and 26 percent of respondents would strongly support it."

So yeah, that's a pretty leading question.

Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

My question is... what is their definition of Ultra-Violence?

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Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

My guess is alogn the lines of GTA, or fi that's being generous, Bully. Course we can't expect them to play the games, they likely go by rumors and screenshots.

Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

Ah.. ha....

Even if the poll data is accurate, it does not support their conclusion.   It is like asking people 'is fatty food good for you?' and concluding that the many 'yes' answers mean people are in favor of banning fatty foods.  There is a HUGE gap between 'I think something is bad' and 'I think the government should be restricting something'.

 

Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

Two words.

Jessi Slaughter.

'Nuff said.

Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent "Support" Game Bill

James Steyer is a lying piece of trash and the descendents of Thomas Paine should sue his pro-censorship group over their making a mockery of Paine's "Common Sense" as their group does not support "Common sense" at all.

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Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent "Support" Game Bill

You really don't understand how defamation suits work at all, do you.

Yes, yes, I know, Vince McMahon.  Not really pertinent here.

Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent "Support" Game Bill

Apparently, you don't know sarcasm or a joke when you see it, do you?

Considering that Steyer's a lying punk who claims lobbying as "advocacy", it's becoming pertinent.

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Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent "Support" Game Bill

"Apparently, you don't know sarcasm or a joke when you see it, do you?"

Sorry, I guess I must have been confused by the last 700 posts you wrote where you said somebody should sue somebody for defamation.

"Considering that Steyer's a lying punk who claims lobbying as "advocacy", it's becoming pertinent."

What's becoming pertinent to what?  What are you talking about?

Yeah, "advocacy group" is a common euphemism for "lobbying group".  So?

Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

So many parents are misinformed about who's side they are actually on.

Since it is the industries view that the parent should be in control of the games their kids play, and they have extreme control built right into each and every system.

How many of these talking heads have actually covered how to set Parental Controls up in their system of choice? Any of them?

If they were REALLY interested in what they claim to be, then they would cover that first and often. Instead, they push for government regulation. What are their real motivations/ priorities/ agendas?

How can we get word to parents? Do we have a talking head we can send onto Good Morning America, or Live with Some Guy and Some Girl? Soemone who could cover how to protect your children from 'teh bad gaems'!

1: Read the cover, the labels have a LOT of information that the movie industry doesn't even come CLOSE to.

2: Set the Parental Controls for your kids console. Keep the PIN to yourself.

3: View your systems history. I know Wii and XBox let you see what they are have been playing. Sony probably does to.

4: Have the console in the family room so you can control what they play, how long they play, and how they act on XBox Live. If you want to let them game in their own room, that is the parents choice, and they have to understand that part of letting their kids grow up is letting them have more freedom and trusting them to know right from wrong.

Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

So what CSM are effectively saying is that it should be up to the parents? Fine, then let it be up to the parents, not up to the Government. It seems to me that this is a massive shot in the foot on their part, where they've actually come down on the side of the Game Industries position despite trying to argue the opposite...

Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

64% of percentages, like in opinion polls, are made up on the spot. See what I did there?

On a more serious note. WTF do these people think the videogame industry is DOING?! I hate it when people play the OH NOES SAVE TEH CHILDRENZ!!!!1 bullshit.

Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

According to a poll on Obamaisamuslim.com, 99% of America believes Obama is a Muslim.

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Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

Heh, they already had this result in mind, so of course that was goign to be their conclusion.

Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

I would have to see the phrasing of the questions.  And it appears from the article that Common Sense Media merely cited the study, it didn't fund or commission it -- so who did?  Zogby is not a reliable polling agency, but I wouldn't expect them to deliberately bias a poll like this either.

Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

"What we've learned from this poll is that parents want to be the ones who decide which games their kids play, not the video game industry."

Which is how it already is but we tend to ignore that fact. But what else can be expected from Lack of Common Sense Media.

Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

 "75 percent of parents have a negative view of what the games industry is doing to safeguard minors from violent games"

My first and immediate thought... Did they actually inform pollers of WHAT the game industry is doing in terms of self regulation? Cause if not, then you are likely getting a whole lot of ignorant morons voting... Frankly I don't think No sense media is going around pointing out that game retailers actually have a successful self-regulation rate of about 90% (according to the FCC)... which is amazing when you compare it to regulation rate of R-rated movies in retail. Actually, i'm not sure but i think that rate is even higher than the regulation rate in the UK where there actually ARE laws. Retailers are doing a great job of self regulation, just about as good as movie theaters, which no one complains about. In fact, i think most parents are under the mistaken impression that movies are regulated by law.

Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

Erm, telling people things they don't already know sort of defeats the purpose of random sampling.  The point of polls like this is to gauge people's existing opinions, not try to change them.

This poll (which, again, is a Zogby poll, so grain of salt) shows the need to educate consumers on the existing system, but that's not the pollsters' job.

And "a whole lot of ignorant morons voting" describes pretty much every election I've ever heard of.

Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

What they need are some follow up questions to determine if the people getting polled are in any way aware of what's going on.  I'm sure they'd find that most of these people haven't a clue.

Ask their kids the same questions and I think you'll find they're much more informed.  After all, the kids pay attention to the games they're playing. :P

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Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

As usual the American people expose themselves for the hypocrites they are. Wasn't it a few months ago all the uproar at the thought of the government getting involved people's lives making decisions for them. Obviously there are several big astrix signs when it comes to having to decide if something is appropriate for them or their family or not. News flash. YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!! If this is approved then then all I can say is await the chain reaction for TV, books, music, etc to follow trend. For a society that says it wants minimum direct government involvement, we sure as hell don't like to make decisions for ourselves.

 

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Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

"If this is approved then then all I can say is await the chain reaction for TV"

Yes.  Just imagine if American television were subject to government censorship based on subjective and ill-defined community standards pushed by a loud minority.

Re: Parents' Group: 72 percent Support Game Bill

Both sides' spin notwithstanding, it's a good idea to take any Zogby poll with a grain of salt.  Zogby's polling results are notoriously out-of-step with other organizations'.

 
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