Los Angeles TV station Fox LA 11 recently did a segment on California's law on violent video games featuring a debate between Gerry Block (IGN and G4TV contributor) and Michele MacNeal, Director of the California Chapter of the Parents Television Council.
While the debate is fairly tame and both participants are clearly nervous about being on TV, the "video game guy" does a good job of being articulate. Check out the video and judge for yourselves.
Source: Fox LA
MechaTama31: I mean, of the groups being bullied here, which of the two would you refer to collectively as "nerds"?10/19/2014 - 11:30pm
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MechaTama31: But that's the thing, it doesn't sound to me like he is advocating bullying, it sounds like he is accusing the SJWs of bullying the "nerds", who I can only assume refers to the GGers.10/19/2014 - 11:21pm
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Andrew Eisen: Interesting read. Unfortunately, too vague to form an opinion on but at least now I know what faefrost was talking about in James' editorial.10/19/2014 - 10:39pm
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Neo_DrKefka: Breaking GameJournoPros organized a blacklist of former Destructoid writer Allistar Pinsof for investigating fraud in IndieGoGo campaign http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2014/10/gamergate-destructoid-corruption-and-ruined-careers/10/19/2014 - 8:57pm
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Neo_DrKefka: Only good thing I seen come out of the Biddle incident was the fact a professional fighter offered to give 10k to an anti bullying charity for a round in the ring with Biddle.10/19/2014 - 7:49pm
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Neo_DrKefka: Even after all the interviews she is still on twitter making fun of people with disabilities (Autism) yet she is a part of the crowd that is on the so called right side of history...10/19/2014 - 7:48pm
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Neo_DrKefka: Which #GameGate supports are constantly being harassed and bullied. Brianna Wu who I told everyone she was trolling GamerGate weeks ago with her passive aggressive threats was looking for that crazy person in the crowd.10/19/2014 - 7:47pm
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Neo_DrKefka: I believe the problem #GamerGate has with Sam Biddle is he is apart of this blogging group that in a way hates or detests its readers. Also being apart of the crowd that claims its on the right side of history isn't helping when he is advocating bullying10/19/2014 - 7:45pm
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MechaTama31: Of course, I'm looking at these tweets in isolation, I don't know a thing about the guy.10/19/2014 - 7:06pm
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MechaTama31: If anything, the sarcastic implication seems to be that the SJW crowd is bringing back the bullying of nerds. But it's the GGers who are out for his blood? I'm lost...10/19/2014 - 7:01pm
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MechaTama31: I don't really get this Sam Biddle thing. The reaction to his tweets seems to be taking them at face value, but... they're tongue in cheek. Right?10/19/2014 - 7:00pm
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Andrew Eisen: I have it. The problem, so far as I can tell, is neither of them allow me to overlay my webcam feed or text links to my Extra-Life fundraising page.10/19/2014 - 4:08pm
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quiknkold: and yes, its free10/19/2014 - 4:05pm
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quiknkold: should grab Hauppauge capture. has mic support and can upload directly to youtube10/19/2014 - 4:05pm
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Andrew Eisen: The former.10/19/2014 - 4:00pm
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quiknkold: was it StreamEez, or the StreamEez feature in Hauppauge Capture? cause I know Capture has alot more support from the devs.10/19/2014 - 3:54pm
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Andrew Eisen: I actually tried StreamEez last week. Flat out didn't work.10/19/2014 - 3:53pm
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quiknkold: I use the Hauppauge Capture software's StreamEez. Arcsoft showbiz for recording. I just streamed a few hours of Persona 4 Golden with zero problem using the program. Xsplit is finniky when it comes to Hauppauge10/19/2014 - 3:40pm
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Andrew Eisen: Trying to capture console games and broadcast with Open Broadcaster System because I've had technical difficulties using XSplit 3 weeks in a row.10/19/2014 - 3:37pm
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quiknkold: and what are you trying to capture?10/19/2014 - 3:31pm
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Comments
Re: A California Video Game Law TV Debate
Wow... she actually pulled the 'first ammendment? but we voted for this!' argument.
Still, this guy has to be one of the best spoken and articulate pro-game interviewies I have seen in a while.
Re: A California Video Game Law TV Debate
What happened? A FOX affiliate allowed an actual debate? They're not supposed to do that! The proper form of "debate", per FOX rules, is to set up a strawman for a one-sided rant about violent pornographic games like Mass Effect!
Won't somebody think of the ratings.. er, children?!
Re: A California Video Game Law TV Debate
I'm not that surprised, actually. In debates shown on my local Fox affiliate (Fox 5 Atlanta), the news anchors aren't afraid to play hardball to either side.
All in all, I think the problem lies less with the local affiliates and much, much more with Fox News Channel and the higher-ups at News Corporation.
Re: A California Video Game Law TV Debate
Let's not shake a fist angrily at them when they are doing right. This isn't the first time FOX has actually reported on something and done a decent job in regards to video games. When a lady was complaining about the Taliban being in the new MoH game, the FOX reporter basically grilled her over it with 'Why is this different than other war games?", "This is literally nothing different but a coat of paint, so why the outrage?", and other such questions.
Just saying, when they do something right, they should be encouraged to do so more frequently.
Re: A California Video Game Law TV Debate
And for those 6% of transactions saw the employee getting fired on the spot when the government released that report. Gamestop takes that whole thing very very seriously. So I'm told, they pay for their own secret shoppers to check on their employees.
Also, that 36% that Michele mentioned was the overall average across all retailers. Stores like Gamestop and best buy have the lowest rates of success for underage shoppers and the harshest penalties for the employees that get caught.
TL;DR: The Industry alread does a good job of regulating itself. Fix the sections that are falling behind and spend government time on more pertinent issues.
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Re: A California Video Game Law TV Debate
"The law aimed at cracking down on games like Halo and Cop Killer..."
Um, did we just make up a game there?
"But the voters voted for this law!"
Yeah, the voters voted to pass Prop 8 too. What's your point?
EDIT: BearDogg-X's comment below brings forth a bigger problem with the PTC lady's statement. This law was never put before California voters.
Andrew Eisen
Re: A California Video Game Law TV Debate(The VG guy won)
=="But the voters voted for this law!"
Yeah, the voters voted to pass Prop 8 too. What's your point?==
The PTC motard really said that? Well, she's lying, but that's typical of the Parent Trash Cult. The voters never voted for Yee's piece of shit "law". The motards California calls their Assemblymen and Senators voted for that "law"(after Yee got an illegal substitution of Assemblymen to get his pride and joy out of committee in the first place). There's a huge difference there, lady.
Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra. Hell will stay frozen over for quite a while since the Saints won the Super Bowl.
Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.
Re: A California Video Game Law TV Debate(The VG guy won)
Heh, good catch. That didn't even cross my mind and I live in California. Oops.
Andrew Eisen
Re: A California Video Game Law TV Debate
Yeah, I have no idea where Cop Killer came from. That is the first I have heard of it.
E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma
E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
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Re: A California Video Game Law TV Debate
Ice-T.
Re: A California Video Game Law TV Debate
Articulate or not, the "video game guy" could do with a hairstyle makeover if he's interested in being taken seriously.
Re: A California Video Game Law TV Debate
Very true. From a "concerned citizen" standpoint, his hairdo is a bit off putting. But if anyone is willing to listen to his points they will be quite surprised.
What I found interesting about this debate is the percentages they both presented. The game guy brought up the FTC study that showed a 20% failure rate, while the PTC person brought up their own internal study that showed 30 something percent failure rate of enforcement. While the numbers aren't that far from eachother, she made it out to be the end of the world.
Yet, I still can't get over the fact that the PTC lady admitted that it is the parents job to monitor their kids media and that is why the government should step in and make it illegal to sell violent games to minors.
E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma
E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
OK Game Devs
Random Tower
Re: A California Video Game Law TV Debate
I'd still love to know how old these mystery shoppers are. If they're 15 and 16, I'm not impressed with her numbers.
Also, giving a kid money and a ride to a game store with specific instructions to pick up a particular title is not a very accurate reflection of the realities of M rated game purchases by minors.
Andrew Eisen
Re: A California Video Game Law TV Debate
If I recall correctly, the main flaw in their methodology is they usually had an adult standing only a foot or two away from the child paying attention to them, so employies (correctly) assumed the adult was with the kid and concenting to the purchace.
So essentially they used flawed methods to get a result closer to what they were hoping for.