Supreme Gamers?

October 26, 2010 -

While it may be difficult to imagine a Supreme Court Justice picking up a controller for a jaunt through Postal II, during the course of actions surrounding Schwarzenegger vs. EMA such a scenario is not totally out of the realm of possibility, at least according to the lawyer who will present the videogame industry’s side in front of the nation’s highest court next week.

In a story on the Schwarzenegger vs. EMA case appearing on the American Bar Association’s (ABA) website, it was noted that California submitted a DVD to the Supreme Court that featured five minutes of violent videogame footage, with the hopes that such footage would bolster its case. The game industry chose to submit a DVD with a “more diverse array of action,” including scenes from titles like Medal of Honor and Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six.

When hearing obscenity cases in the 1960s and 1970s, “some” Justices reportedly watched sexually explicit movies in order to be in tune with the issue, and in the 1990s, when Internet indecency was a hot topic, the Supreme Court Library demonstrated the series of tubes to the Court.

These historical precedents led to the following question being posed to Jenner & Block partner Paul M. Smith: “Will the justices themselves be plugging in a Play Station or Xbox to try some of the games?"

Smith answered, “It wouldn’t be shocking if they did a similar thing here.”


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Re: Supreme Gamers?

From what I heard, the 5-minute footage was all Postal 2.

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Its Postal 2, Manhunt 1, GTA VC and GTA SA, 25 to Life, Bully I think was also included and some other games I'm forgetting.

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I´m also afraid that they will actually do that, with little bits of Manhunt and Rapelay and try to convince them that those are the most popular games avaliable on any WalMart.

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Re: Supreme Gamers?

This still seems duplicitous to me.

RE: "California submitted a DVD to the Supreme Court that featured five minutes of violent videogame footage, with the hopes that such footage would bolster its case."

Of which I'm sure multiple GTA footage is shown mixed in with Manhunt, Bully, and Hot Coffee and maybe even some RapeLay.

But hasnt the industry kind of taken care of itself already? I would rather see the Supreme Court see a DVD of the most violent 2010 game titles which in my opinion are considerably more tame than some of the older games.

I just dont want to see the Supreme Court get five minutes of a "hatchet job" of extremist titles from really old games.

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Better yet, cut together a video that alternates between violent scenes in M-rated games and those in MA-rated TV shows and R-rated movies.  I'll see your Postal and raise you a Saw and a Human Centipede.

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I think that's exactly what's in order as a response. Remind the court of the fact that games are on par with films and TV, not guns and drugs.

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Ugh Human Centipede...I spent SOOO long trying to forget that movie.  Thanks for nothing Thad.

 
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