Cameron: “Difficult Decision,” but UK Tax Breaks had to be Nixed

October 28, 2010 -

During a recent "Prime Minister’s Questions" session,  Labour MP Luciana Berger took the opportunity to question Prime Minister David Cameron (pictured) about the UK government’s decision to not institute tax relief measures for local developers.

Berger, who represents Liverpool Wavertree, stated, according to Develop, “Before the election all three parties pledged to introduce a videogames tax relief to compete internationally on a level playing-field,” before she asked the PM, “Why has the government reneged on that promise?"

Cameron began answering by stating that the government had to make “difficult decisions.”

He continued:

So we have got to take difficult decisions and I think that tax break relief, which was not particularly successful or targeted, had to go. Those are the difficult decisions we have to take.

Dr. Richard Wilson head of industry group TIGA, a Games Tax Relief champion, responded by saying:

David Cameron’s negative response to Luciana Berger’s question is peculiar. The PM claimed that Games Tax Relief was ‘...not particular successful or targeted...’ Yet both the Conservative Party and the Liberal Democrats promised that they would introduce this tax break before the election.

Wilson added, “Unless the Coalition Government urgently reappraises its decision to cancel Games Tax Relief then the UK video games industry will suffer and it will not be able to deliver the jobs, exports and investment so desperately needed to rebalance our economy.”

Dundee West MSP Joe FitzPatrick expressed that he was “disappointed but not entirely surprised,” in regards to a lack of movement towards tax relief.


Comments

Re: Cameron: “Difficult Decision,” but UK Tax Breaks ...

Can they stop blaming Canada for their own inaction now?

Re: Cameron: “Difficult Decision,” but UK Tax Breaks ...

Scrap child benefit and cut housing benefit, use this money to fund the tax breaks for games developers. Simples.

Re: Cameron: “Difficult Decision,” but UK Tax Breaks ...

Might I suggest that they would have been more successful had they actually been put in place?

My answer to DC would be that, as an island which depends on imports, we should try and export something and since we can't undercut most countries on price, we should be aiming to promote skilled industries.

If you want proof that tax breaks work, then take a look at Eidos Montreal; a British publisher who opened a studio in Canada due to tax incentives. And now, because Eidos is owned by Square Enix, some of the revenue is going back to Japan. If we had tax breaks, the jobs and money might have stayed here.

The problem is, I doubt there are many conservative MPs who would want to say that GTA does more good than harm!

Re: Cameron: “Difficult Decision,” but UK Tax Breaks ...

Don't forget that Labour have Keith Vaz, who has spouted a lot of moral panic-inspired rubbish in the media about violent games, while the Tories have Ed Vaizey who is certainly on the industry's side and was trying to get the tax breaks put in before the PM and Osborne killed off the idea.

I suppose Cameron can argue that the deficit took over as his absolute priority when he came to power as, apparently, it was far worse than he imagined. However, I still don't understand it - essentially giving (or investing or however you see it) money in the form of tax breaks which then generates more money in the long term and secures jobs ISN'T deemed feasible.

Re: Cameron: “Difficult Decision,” but UK Tax Breaks ...

Absolutely, the lack of public funds is the primary reason for this decision. However, tax breaks aren't technically an investment of public money, they are a reduction in revenue. The industry isn't asking for investment per se, they are asking for lower costs (it's more expensive than most other countries to develop here)

Lost jobs and exports reduce public revenue as well. Industry growth creates more public revenue via income tax and VAT that consumers and employees pay.

I still maintain that the decision is political rather than fiscal, i.e. the government cannot be seen to be supporting something when they have bigger priorities and public funds are extremely tight.

Re: Cameron: “Difficult Decision,” but UK Tax Breaks ...

I've just heard that this tax break would cost in the region of £180m. The government did not want to appear to favour one industry over another especially as many would be receiving cuts.

 
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Andrew EisenThe rest, including a joke about how his wife left him over this, can be found on his feed with minimal scrolling. https://twitter.com/samfbiddle10/19/2014 - 2:16pm
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Matthew Wilsonhttp://imgur.com/XzpWeWw here is the twiter exchange in question.10/19/2014 - 1:39pm
Andrew EisenI either don't remember or didn't see it. Still have a link?10/19/2014 - 1:38pm
Matthew Wilsonits the twiter exchange I linked too a few days ago.10/19/2014 - 1:29pm
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