Your Anti-Game Op-ed of the Day

November 5, 2010 -

The author of an opinion piece appearing in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, a piece ostensibly related to the Schwarzenegger vs. EMA Supreme Court case, takes a hatchet to videogames.

Author Jack Markowitz offers, “grudgingly,” that “the Supreme Court will uphold the precious freedom to sell stupid, overpriced electronic games to children.”

These “stupid [Ed. yes, again], violent,” games, AKA “trash” that kids are imbibing instead of doing their homework, while their parents operate in the other room, blissfully unaware of their offspring getting “jollies” from killing, maiming, dismembering or sexually assaulting images of human, are served up to youth as a means of “recreational, garbage-vending.”

The current crop of videogames also promote “savage, anti-social plot elements.”

Even Markowitz however, in predicting the outcome of Schwarzenegger vs. EMA, recognizes who should be filtering content for kids—their parents:

On the slim chance that nine justices will overturn the wisdom of California, computer geeks younger than 18 surely will get their hands on forbidden games anyway; just too irresistible. And if legislators are powerless to stop this bad influence on children, here's a radical notion: maybe parents should. Two-to-one we'll see the court vote 5-4 for "creative freedom." But 5-4 the other way is conceivable, too. And better.

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Re: Your Anti-Game Op-ed of the Day

Clearly has never played any video games.  These people who crop up continue think they are qualified to comment on something they have never involved themselves with.  Anyone who has played a few games clearly sees that they are harmless fun.  They themselves may not enjoy certain genres but can at least show some level of respect to those who do enjoy them.

As to children playing video games, that is called parental responsibility - an area the government has NO business being involved in whatsoever.  Only foolish parents don't keep track of their children's activities.

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My 7 year-old daughter does her homework BEFORE she uses 'stupid' and violent 'trash' like the intelligently written, nicely produced and graphically beautiful Assassin's Creed 2 to pretend to 'maim' and 'kill' fictitious game characters. While she's doing the pretend maiming and killing, I'm usually in the same room watching her play the game or playing the game alongside her, and (with my help and input) she's picking up details of European history and geography that her school teachers have yet to touch on. She's also learning essential hand-eye coordination techniques that girls often miss out on in a society in which such things are generally thought of as male pursuits.

At a guess, I suppose Jack Markowitz would be more comfortable if my daughter stuck to learning how to cook and clean for her future husband, and left the computer games untouched, along with Lego sets and mechanical toys so that she doesn't fill her head with pursuits and lessons she shouldn't have a use for in later life.

I don't share that view.

I guess Mr. Markowitz would be happier if my daughter was outside on a 1950s era street playing 'Cowboys and Indians' - a game in which the people she would be pretending to maim and kill would be her school chums, and in which the 'bad guys' were an oppressed minority that was virtually wiped from the face of the Earth in an orgy of socially acceptable real-life violence.

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Miss the boat much? This law breaks the law and harms our rights and freedoms(kinda like the DMCA with circumventions), next!


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Re: Your Anti-Game Op-ed of the Day

We're reaching the point where new parents were gamers themselves (or at least grew up with a basic understanding of games from friends), so the tired argument that "parents don't know what their children are doing in these games" is almost obsolete.  In fact, using this argument is telling of the author and his age, and how out of touch he's getting.

Re: Your Anti-Game Op-ed of the Day

(Insert your own age-related joke here)

I'm not going to comment on his opinion of video games, he's entitled to it just as I'm entitled not to care for it. What I find most amusing about this article is that he defeats his own argument;

"But see the pitfall? One censor's deviant is another's art."

"And if legislators are powerless to stop this bad influence on children, here's a radical notion: maybe parents should."

and let's not forget this gem;

"Sacrificing millions in sales to the immaturity market would "deprive game developers ... of a critical instrument for expressing and exercising their creativity,""

Which is just plain fabrication.

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I'm not going to give this guy the traffic he is so clearly begging for. I understand why these articles get posted but in the end you'll notice that the more time that passes the older and older these blowhards gets. In another 20 years the idea that someone would write such an article will be laughable. We'll just have to fight until that day.

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This column is written by "Retired business editor Jack Markowitz."

So, wait, some old person doesn't like something new and current? No way! Next you will tell me that he wants kids to get off his lawn!

 

 

 

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Old self centered asshole is all I have to say. From the "to be seen and not heard" generation where being a good citizen was minding your manner andn ever questioning anything.

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And if legislators are powerless to stop this bad influence on children, here's a radical notion: maybe parents should."

"Two-to-one we'll see the court vote 5-4 for "creative freedom." But 5-4 the other way is conceivable, too. And better."

These two statements just don't fit together.... It seems he is saying that its better that legislators do the parenting in place of parents.

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Two-to-one we'll see the court vote 5-4 for "creative freedom." But 5-4 the other way is conceivable, too. And better.

So, taking away the rights and freedoms of others to impose your self-centered, moral view about something you don't like and are clearly uninformed on is better than creative freedom? Clearly we have a difference of opinion on this one.

Is it so hard a concept to grasp that some games are developed for kids and some are not? Do they not realize they would be trampling on the rights of adults as well as kids were this to be upheld?

Here's hoping the Justices on the Supreme Court could see how this law is someone trying to force their moral views on others.

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Some choice quotes from the article:

"Millions of parents probably aren't aware of the trash the kids are toying with in their rooms in lieu of homework."

Not a problem the government should be solving.

"Video games are addictive to many youngsters in the first place, which is worrisome enough. A lot parents must wish their offspring would just "go out and play" as in the pre-electronic past."

Speaking as a parent, if I'm not able to directly supervise my daughter I'd rather have her inside.  I take her out to play, but would not want to just send her out.

"A lovely harmony between profits and the Constitution."

Just like books, movies, and every other creative industry.

"And if legislators are powerless to stop this bad influence on children, here's a radical notion: maybe parents should."

Well, turns out the guys has some sense.  Indeed parents should keep material they don't think their kids should have access to away from their kids.  It's called parenting.

I like that most of the points that seem most important from the article are more easily solved by parents paying attention and being involved in their kids lives than by legislation.

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Re: Your Anti-Game Op-ed of the Day

The 50's proved that parents alone can't protect our children from communism, so how will they protect them from video games. Where's that phone number of Senator McCarthy......

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Where's that phone number of Senator McCarthy.....

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Re: Your Anti-Game Op-ed of the Day

I can't blame Mr. Markowitz for his inability to relate to the modern youth.  When he was growing up, he didn't have time for objectionable material, because his family was constantly trying to avoid being stepped on by brachiosaurs.  "C'mon everyone, John McCain's found an igneous cavern we can hide in!"

(Old-age-joke twofer.  Today's a good day.)

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Re: Your Anti-Game Op-ed of the Day

Oddly enough I have the same opinion of newspapers in general that this guy has of video games. The difference is though that I didn't write an op-ed piece about my personal views. He did.

Re: Your Anti-Game Op-ed of the Day

It's nice that a newspaper - which, you know, presumably is meant for news - takes two days of the week to let a cranky blowhard throw a temper tantrum about "declining morality".

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That is the lovely part about our First Amendment - anyone can say just about anything they want concerning whatever topic they are passionate about.  Even if people disagree, we still have that freedom.

It just surprises me so much that when people disagree, that one side or the other of any argument wishes to reduce or remove such freedom because there are those that don't agree with them.

The biggest argument for restricting the sales of video games, in its essence, is: "Think of the children!"

Unfortunately, that is the problem.  Not enough parents think of their children in regards to this sort of thing and they wish the government to do so for them.  (Or, as the writer of the aforementioned article does, have other people want the government to do so for them.)  I am an adult gamer.  I have a daughter who is now 20-years-old and attending college.  She is socially "well-rounded," thinks for herself and makes informed & educated decisions.  She also loves to play games (not just video).  Why?  Because I taught her how to enjoy games of all types.  While she was growing up, however, I limited her exposure to certain types of games because she was a child.  There were certain things she just did not need to see or partake in.  In fact, I went so far as to not play those types of games in her presence.

Too many parents today use computers, PS3s, Xboxes, Wiis, DSes, etc. as babysitters rather than take the time themselves to watch over their children.  I have heard the argument "But I don't have the time!"  IMO, then you shouldn't have had the children.  Children are a lifelong responsibility.  If you are finding that you do not have the time to take care of your most precious responsibility...then you need to make the time.  We don't need "The State" to take care of our children for us simply because a few can not take care of their own "properly."

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Re: Your Anti-Game Op-ed of the Day

This pieces sets a new bar for being uninformed.

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Here is a novel idea: Why don't you just forget about getting the government to monitor your children's media and do it yourself as a parent. You even say it yourself, but you would prefer the government to do it for you.

So, when will people be clamoring for mandatory bording schools for all children? After all, if we can't trust parents to monitor their children's media consumption, perhaps the government shoudl just take over the whole child rearing process. Let us breed and let the government take over once the children are born.

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Re: Your Anti-Game Op-ed of the Day

This guy is decades past having 'children'.

I think he is a prototypical example of someone who wants the government making sure OTHER people raise kids the way he wants them raised.  His rant was full of language decrying about the downfall of culture and society......

I find it amusing that he singles out the Comicbook Defense Fund since he is old enough to have been around for the comic book moral panic.   I guess it is possible he was one of thoe 'youth leaders' that charged in build bonfires of comic books and bully other children into destroying thier collections.

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"I guess it is possible he was one of those 'youth leaders' that charged in build bonfires of comic books and bully other children into destroying thier collections."

A situation nicely criticized in Assassin's Creed 2's 'Bonfire of the Vanities' segment. But I guess the author misses the reference, since for him, the religious nut Savonarola was presumably one of the good guys, trying to save civilization from the disgusting and ruinous 'trash' of artists like Leonardo da Vinci and Botticelli.

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collections that, had they survived, would have been worth, well, shitloads today.

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There is a plethora of memes for this situation, that I don´t know which one I can use...

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NeenekoAh, that old straw man. That is one of the ironies about the discussion, the whole point is showing how good people can still have problems with sexism and not realize it.09/17/2014 - 9:11pm
Andrew EisenYes, there have been a handful of op-eds suggesting that the term “gamer” has become tainted (two that I know of) but that’s the opinion of only a few. I've seen an equal number from those who disagree.09/17/2014 - 8:55pm
Andrew EisenExcept, you haven't provided a single example of a site that’s actually calling gamers a "collective of Sexist White Bigoted Basement Dwelling Manchildren."09/17/2014 - 8:55pm
TechnogeekIf you want to make the stereotype of gamers less painful, try calling people out when they do bad shit rather than handwave it away as "not all gamers". Even if it is a few bad apples, that'll still more than enough to spoil the barrel.09/17/2014 - 8:53pm
quiknkoldI'm not going to Sell Gamergate anymore. It can sell itself. But I will sell the integrity of the Gamer. That we are still good people, who create and donate to charitys, Who engage with those around us and just want to have a good time.09/17/2014 - 7:35pm
quiknkoldpeople should not be harrassed and punished for the actions of a few. I've always welcomed and accepted everybody who wanted to join in. Who wanted to make them, or play them. I love good strong female protagonists, and want more.09/17/2014 - 7:35pm
quiknkoldOne of the tennants of Gamergate is to stand up against Harrassment. That Gamers arent like those assholes. We can argue for days if the Sexism or Antifeminism or corruption is there or not, But the one thing I believe in and wear on my sleave is that09/17/2014 - 7:35pm
quiknkoldBut there were these websites, attacking me and people like me, for the actions of a few. and then others joined in on Twitter and other places. there was a hashtag that said "explain in 4 words a gamer" and it made me sick.09/17/2014 - 7:35pm
quiknkoldManchildren who are awful people and that the Identity of the Gamer should die. This hurt me personally. I've always identified as a Gamer. Even in my childhood years, I was a Gamer. All my friends are Gamers. Its one of the core parts of my identity.09/17/2014 - 7:34pm
quiknkoldUltimately, With the whole Gamergate thing, I jumped on it due to the harassment. A small number of assholes harrass Anita and Zoe, and then all the publications lumped together Gamers as this collective of Sexist White Bigoted Basement Dwelling09/17/2014 - 7:34pm
quiknkoldEZacharyKnight : Lemme ask you a question. We have people who cling to walls, people who fire lasers from their eyes, people who can shapeshift....and yet fabric needs to be upheld to RL physics?09/17/2014 - 6:54pm
james_fudgebody paint?09/17/2014 - 5:33pm
E. Zachary Knightquiknkold, I stand corrected on the buttcrack thing. Still, I know of no fabric that actually does that.09/17/2014 - 5:05pm
Andrew EisenSo... it's unethical to discuss the ethics surrounding public interest vs. personal privacy?09/17/2014 - 4:45pm
prh99The source for the game was just released not long ago, it's at https://github.com/keendreams/keen09/17/2014 - 4:43pm
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james_fudgeAlso http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/17/Exposed-the-secret-mailing-list-of-the-gaming-journalism-elite09/17/2014 - 4:29pm
Andrew EisenI read the Kotaku story. Nowhere does it say anything close to "Gamers are white bigoted sexist losers." It's commenting specifically on the crap being slung at people discussing gender issues in games. So, what's the problem?09/17/2014 - 4:06pm
Andrew EisenYeah, I can imagine Spiderwoman posed like in your second link.09/17/2014 - 4:00pm
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