Yee Out to Ruin Xmas for Kids

November 23, 2010 -

Citing their “potential harmful effects,” California State Senator, and anti-videogame law architect, Leland Yee is advising parents and anyone else buying gifts for kids this holiday season, to avoid purchasing violent videogames.

Yee urged purchasers to retain awareness of marketing and advertising that targets kids, check a game’s age ratings and content descriptors and to become familiar with the game. He warned that if any violent or sexual images appear on a game’s box, or in its title, “you can assume these themes are also in the game."

It was also suggested that shoppers avoid all first and third-person shooters entirely, as they “usually focus on gunning down hundreds of people,” and to avoid games “that reward the player with more points or new scenes for anti-social and violent behavior.”

A list was also offered, culled from “several media sources,” of specific games to steer clear of. The list included Call of Duty: Black Ops, God of War III, Fable III, Battlefield: Bad Company 2, Mass Effect 2, BioShock 2, Assassins Creed: Brotherhood, Red Dead Redemption, Army of Two: The 40th Day, Dante's Inferno, and Fallout: New Vegas.

“It is vitally important that parents and grandparents consider the content in video games before making holiday purchases,” added Yee.

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Re: Yee Out to Ruin Xmas for Kids

I hope every kid in America gets a copy of GTA IV for Christmas and plays it for hours on end. Fuck Leland Yee.

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So, Yee recognizes that there are more games than Postal 2. Interestingly, Yee also recognizes that violent games are not actually harmful; they are only potentially harmful. Moreover, Yee is doling out the same advice as the ESRB. All games listed are rated M. I would love to see the ESRB make a comment about this: "We are pleased that the senator finally recognizes the value of the ESRB." Also, in that context, the headline of this article doesn't make any sense.

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dont worry it will all work out Rudolth will team up with a little innocent child who still believes in Santa and it will all work out for the best.

seriously this is like some bad plot in a sappy movie

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Well I was planning on getting Fallout New Vegas anyways :P  I had totally forgotten about Red Dead Redemption until this article! Thanks Mr Yee for reminding me! Now my fiancee knows what to get me for christmas :P

Seriously though, no retailer will sell any of those games. I bought a copy of Call of Duty Black Ops for my 22 year old brother. You would think seeing a bald guy who looks 30 would be a reason not to ask for ID? Nope, they ID'ed me. Hats off to the folks at Best Buy in Edmonton.

ALL of these games are rated M for a reason. THEY ARE NOT MEANT FOR KIDS!!!! GAAAHHH!!! Stoopid Politician MAKE ME ANGRY!!!! HULK HATE LAWYER SCUMBAG MAN!!!

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James Fletcher, member of ECA Canada

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Of course buying your 4 year old child a toy made from toxic plastics is a.o.k. by Mr. Hypocrite Yee seeing as he voting AGAINST a law that would have banned toxic plastics in toys made for YOUNG CHILDREN. I'd say that is wayyyyyyy more harmful then a 14 to 17 year old high school teenager playing GTA 4 or Fallout New Vegas especially seeing as there is no harmful effects with that to being with.

 "No law means no law" - Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black on the First Amendment

"No law means no law" - Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black on the First Amendment

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It's hard to argue against Yee when GamePolitics - who is supposed to be the one keeping a level head about all of this - uses "Yee Out to Ruin Xmas for Kids" as the title for its article.

Are you saying it would be the perfect Christmas if kids could play a violent video game? I rarely hear anyone arguing whether these games are appropriate for children. The argument is about who decides, the parents or the government.

Yee is neither out to ruin Christmas for kids or save it. He's out to get re-elected, and nothing more.

Whether you agree with his agenda or his methods or not, as a former retail employee, I would make the very same statement to any parent considering purchasing a violent game for a child.

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Are you saying it would be the perfect Christmas if kids could play a violent video game? Taking on count that our stand is that violent games don´t turn children on sociopathic murderers and serial rapists just by playing GTA4 five minutes as Yee wants everyone to believe, I´m one of the persons who think that if a kid wants to play GTA or Halo and is under 15 years old, it´s not bad at all, I would let him to play. The title is obviously a mockery, but the note by itself clearly shows Yee´s contradiction on videogames, by suggesting parents to check the covers, when he actually wants the government to take away the decision from parents. That, along with his stupid list (more free publicity for the companies) doesn´t help either. ------------------------------------------------------------ My DeviantArt Page (aka DeviantCensorship): http://www.darkknightstrikes.deviantart.com

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Half of that list is either on my to-play list or on my must own.

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While what he is saying is correct and fine, WHY he says it is the reason it's garbage. It's just another attempt to get his foot in the door to micro-managing our lives.

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The only credit I'll give is that Postal 2 and GTA4 weren't on that list. Almost surprised they weren't.

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Honestly any good intentions Yee might have had going with his proposed law are erased by this position he is taking against the developers of these violent games.

In my opinion he has done his own plight a disservice here.

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"Since I wasn't allowed to play videogames as a child, neither should your children!  Give them socks instead.  Socks will last until next Christmas.  Then you can repeat the process.  Socks are the gift that can be given again and again and again.  If they want video games, buy my special line of video game socks with characters from safer 80's video games on them."

That's what I read this article as.  The photo distracted me.  What were we talking about again?

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Honestly surprised to see Fable III on there.

/b 

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Haha.  "Points".

Re: Yee Out to Ruin Xmas for Kids

are they anything like the 'points' you get "rewarded" on your driver's license whenever you violate traffic laws in real life?

岩「if Phyllis Schlafly wants to undo Women's Rights, she should lead by example and get back in the kitchen」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

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I must suck at video games.  I haven't earned a single point in any game I've played for years and years and years.

 

Andrew Eisen

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*Rolls eyes*  Yee is being a douche, as usual.

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Now I'm waiting for Senator Yee to recommend high school students read Dante's Inferno in their literature classes.  Then we'll have some real fuel for the pot and the kettle.

 

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Leland Yee is advising parents and anyone else buying gifts for kids this holiday season, to avoid purchasing violent videogames. The list included Call of Duty: Black Ops, God of War III, Fable III, Battlefield: Bad Company 2, Mass Effect 2, BioShock 2, Assassins Creed: Brotherhood, Red Dead Redemption, Army of Two: The 40th Day, Dante's Inferno, and Fallout: New Vegas.
 

A.K.A. Videogames Gift Guide for Christmas 2010.

 

“It is vitally important that parents and grandparents consider the content in video games before making holiday purchases,”

A highly ironic statement, since Yee himself consider parents as a bunch of babbling morons which can´t make their own decisions about what games can their children play and need the government to change their adult diapers and clean the drool from their chins.

 

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Re: Yee Out to Ruin Xmas for Kids

 

Seems "gamers" continue to hate on him, but refuse to acknowledge that in this specific context (parents buying games for Christmas) he's actually saying a lot of totally legitimate things aside from the "harmful effects" rubbish.

For example, since when was asking parents to "check a game’s age ratings and content descriptors and to become familiar with the game" a bad idea?

How about "if any violent or sexual images appear on a game’s box, or in its title, you can assume these themes are also in the game." ? How is that bad advice?

 

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"How about "if any violent or sexual images appear on a game’s box, or in its title, you can assume these themes are also in the game." ? How is that bad advice?"

Because it's redundant at best and misleading at worst.  For example, the box art of the rated E puzzle game "Boom Blox" contains a potentially violent explosion in the middle of some blocks and cartoony animals.  In contrast, the box art for GTA 4 just has a drawing of Niko Bellic standing there.

I wouldn't be surprised if Yee's trying to game the situation by overloading parents with too much information.  A parent who knows to check game ratings doesn't need to worry about his specific list of games -- the M rating on the front of the box should tell them plenty.  But by throwing all these different concerns at parents, many of which are significantly trickier to deal with than ratings labels, he's setting parents up to beg for government intervention.

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"How about "if any violent or sexual images appear on a game’s box, or in its title, you can assume these themes are also in the game." ? How is that bad advice?" Clueless YeeParent: "Hmmm... Kung-Fu Panda has the word Kung-Fu in it, which is violent. But this Heavy Rain game seems to be about weather and pretty paper birds!" -Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

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Even when he says the true, one can consider that everything that comes out from Yee´s mouth is hypocritical at least. The entire point of the law, or the only thing that the law will prevent is that parents have the need/right to decide what games they can buy for their children, so, him advising parents about checking the content of the cover on the game cases is pointless to him to say. He wants to prevent that. He hates people can think by themselves.

Also, the advice about "if any violent or sexual images appear on a game’s box, or in its title, you can assume these themes are also in the game" is not always applying to all violent games.

For example, check out games like No More Heroes. It just have a guy with a laser sword. Anyone can be misguided because the better reference they have about that weapon is Star Wars, and that franchise is unobjetionable for the majority of the people.

There are many covers that don´t actually explain how violent is a games, except for one thing that Yee is FAILING to explain: the ESRB ratings, which, of course, he tries harder to deny they even exist in first place.

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While yes, the majority of the advice he gives is quite good and common sense for most parents who are actually familiar with gaming, Rodrigo is quite right as well.

This "advice" is counter intuitive to the law he wrote and is hoping will be upheld by the US supreme Court. That law would make it so that parents won't have to make any decisions when it comes to kids and gaming. The government will have already made those decisions for them.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: Yee Out to Ruin Xmas for Kids

So Yee's basically saying,

"Don't trust the ESRB! Trust me instead, because I know so much more than they do, even though the ESRB reviews every game backward and forward, and I've never played a game in my life."

 

Re: Yee Out to Ruin Xmas for Kids

that's pretty much the tl;dr version right there

岩「if Phyllis Schlafly wants to undo Women's Rights, she should lead by example and get back in the kitchen」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

 
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quiknkoldwell then I suck as a man cause I ask for help when necessary :P10/24/2014 - 10:07pm
Technogeek(That said, mostly I was making the smartass evopsych comment because your post seemed like the kind of just-so story that has come to dominate 99% of its usage.)10/24/2014 - 10:04pm
TechnogeekHell, Liam Neeson built his modern career around it. Cultural factors likely play a far greater role than you appear willing to admit.10/24/2014 - 10:03pm
TechnogeekSeriously, though, the idea of "because women are protectors and that's why they never commit school shootings" is, at best, grossly overreductive. There's nothing inherently feminine about being willing to kill in order to protect one's offspring.10/24/2014 - 10:03pm
MechaCrashThe "toxic masculinity" thing refers to how you have to SUCK IT UP AND BE A MAN because seeking help is seen as weakness, which means you suck at manliness, so it builds and builds and builds until something finally snaps.10/24/2014 - 10:01pm
quiknkoldthere, I'm done. And thats what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown10/24/2014 - 9:54pm
quiknkoldand I am not spouting Evopsych, technogeek. tbh I never heard the phrase till you said it. I'm going off my observations.10/24/2014 - 9:54pm
quiknkoldmoreover, the guy who did this isnt even white. He was native american according to the news report I read. Also that he went for a specific target. That's a much different picture than a certain Sandy Hook guy who will not be named10/24/2014 - 9:53pm
quiknkoldbut I am also certain nobody in their right mind is committing these shootings singing the Machoman song. these are sick individuals who have given up on life10/24/2014 - 9:51pm
Technogeekevopsych lol10/24/2014 - 9:49pm
quiknkoldWhen you suffer from mental illness, youre more likely to go by instinct. yes. I came off as sexist.10/24/2014 - 9:46pm
quiknkoldmore on somthing they are fixated on. Post Partum Depression is an example. This is why a woman is less likely to go off on a rampage.10/24/2014 - 9:44pm
quiknkoldA Mother will fight to protect her children or her mate. This does not mean they are any different then males when it comes to destruction and mental illness. A Woman has just enough opportunity to be sick like a man. The difference is they will focus10/24/2014 - 9:43pm
quiknkoldsociologist. I've spent years observing and I've come to the conclusion that a big reason men and women are different is because Women are Protectors. Women wont wantonly kill because they are all about protecting what they care about. They are wired this10/24/2014 - 9:43pm
james_fudgeYeah having a penis probably doesn't have a lot to do with it10/24/2014 - 9:32pm
quiknkoldIts Mental Illness. Nobody who is actually sane would willingly walk into a school and commit that. its Mental Illness topped with Teenage Angst. and I'm going to say something that may be construed as sexist, but I dont mean it as such. I mean it as a...10/24/2014 - 9:29pm
Matthew WilsonIt is a worth while discussion, but I dont agree with here premise. I dont belive it has anything to do with masculinity.10/24/2014 - 9:13pm
Andrew EisenAgreed but it's not untrue either. I think it's worth examining and discussing why mass shootings are almost always (if not literally always) committed by males.10/24/2014 - 8:57pm
quiknkoldhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0wOJ4MCIAA8-YW.png yeah.... this isnt helping anybody.10/24/2014 - 8:20pm
E. Zachary KnightAE: some devs here in Oklahoma got accepted to make WiiU games. They are college kids who haven't graduated and are making games out of their dorms. They deserve it too.10/24/2014 - 6:25pm
 

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