Canadians Ticked Off Over Usage-Based Pricing

February 1, 2011 -

Canadian journalist Jason Koblovskly complains about usage-based billing and how much it sucks in a non-shocking blog post. Like many of his fellow citizens (at least those paying attention) he is angry that internet service providers are crying poverty and implementing pricing that charges users for both uploads and downloads.

In his post he points out that an online petition to the Canadian government demanding an end to usage based billing has managed to garner nearly 190,000 signatures. There seems to be some momentum towards ending this practice, with federal Liberals and the NDP already calling for an end to it. Meanwhile, Industry Minister Tony Clement is waiting for the results of an appeal with the Canadian regulator the CRTC.

While Koblovskly lays out a number of reasons why this is all bad medicine for Canadian citizens and business in general, his main point is that usage-based billing only serves the interests of ISPs. Canada needs net neutrality rules ASAP.

You can read the whole thing here. Image credit.


Comments

Re: Canadians Ticked Off Over Usage-Based Pricing

I don't understand why Canada would do this in the first place. Did they honestly expect that people would like it?

----------------------------------------------------

Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

---------------------------------------------------- Debates are like merry go rounds. Two people take their positions then they go through the same points over and over and over again. Then when it's over they have the same positions they started in.

Re: Canadians Ticked Off Over Usage-Based Pricing

Us Canadians are wondering why the CRTC thought this is a good idea as well...

--------- James Fletcher, member of ECA Canada

Re: Canadians Ticked Off Over Usage-Based Pricing

Unmetered Internet usage forces ISPs to upgrade their hardware and backbone, thus forcing prices down for everyone and encourages competition.  ISPs like Comcast want to create metered usage because they know that they won't have to upgrade as often and can charge as much as they like per GB, which equates to more profit.  This is all about maximizing profit, not forwarding humanity.

Fortunately, in the next decade (or two), Comcast and similar ISPs will hopefully be obsoleted by advancing research in quantum mechanics (e.g. quantum entanglement of photons).

- Left4Dead

Why are zombies always eating brains? I want to see zombies that eat toes for a living. Undead-related pun intended.

- Left4Dead Why are zombies always eating brains? I want to see zombies that eat toes for a living. Undead-related pun intended.

Re: Canadians Ticked Off Over Usage-Based Pricing

Argh! Rule: You can't have information travel faster than light. You CAN have things travel faster (instantaneous change like interference or removal of such), but because of a couple of quantum rules, you STILL can't pass information (like piggy-backing waves on top of laser. It goes faster than light, but no information is carried.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaecUuEqfc

Anyway, a lot of extremelly good options are already seeing the light of day, some are being made availalbe this spring across Canada for higher paying trial customer, technologies that will trickle down extremely quickly.

Re: Canadians Ticked Off Over Usage-Based Pricing

Calling all Canadians!

Please go to http://stopthemeter.ca/ and sign up on this petition now! We are already getting jilted by the CRTC for years with horrible regulations with telecommunications. Now this is happening? Come on, this is ridiculous. Every Canadian here, please just take 30 seconds and fill out the petition. Can be filled out also at: http://openmedia.ca/meter

Thanks! 

--------- James Fletcher, member of ECA Canada

Re: Canadians Ticked Off Over Usage-Based Pricing

GRRRR! I am going to express my outrage by typing my name to an electronic document! That will show them! /sarcasm

If your opponent doesn't care about your opinion in the slightest, something like this is trivial. I wish my bros to the North would wig out hard over something like this to keep it from spilling down south hard. I can see some business folks now: "Just think, if you get a large chunk of laid back Canucks fuming and having massive demonstrations and the like to something like this, what do you think the always angry Americans will do if we try that in their neck of the woods?"

 

"

Re: Canadians Ticked Off Over Usage-Based Pricing

It's at a point now where if the CRTC doesn't overturn their decision, Tony Clement will himself.

Re: Canadians Ticked Off Over Usage-Based Pricing

Thanks for the sarcasim! Actually there has been success. Our government announced they are going to review the CRTC ruling due to the large amount of petitions filled out. So yes, our outrage on an electronic document worked.

Cheers!

--------- James Fletcher, member of ECA Canada

Re: Canadians Ticked Off Over Usage-Based Pricing

http://i.imgur.com/M3G7f.png

 

------- Morality has always been in decline. As you get older, you notice it. When you were younger, you enjoyed it.

------- Morality has always been in decline. As you get older, you notice it. When you were younger, you enjoyed it.

Re: Canadians Ticked Off Over Usage-Based Pricing

Insofar as I agree that yes, we overpay for all forms of digital communication in this country, the argument presented on that image is flawed.  It's akin to saying it's cheaper to drive a car than to fly by plane.  Cost isn't the only issue; delivery and infrastructure have to be taken into account.  Also, it's remarkably difficult to play multiplayer Call of Duty on a solid state drive.

---
Fangamer

---
Fangamer

Re: Canadians Ticked Off Over Usage-Based Pricing

 You're missing the point. It's not a suggested solution, it's a mockery of the fact that our ISPs feel that transmitting data over established and paid-for lines is somehow worth more than physically shipping the same data on a new device.

The reality is that we can't equate bandwidth to storage, because they're not even remotely the same. But the analogy is still good for showing the obscene prices being proposed in some sort of context.

 
Forgot your password?
Username :
Password :

Shout box

You're not permitted to post shouts.
ZippyDSMleehttp://www.polygon.com/2015/4/27/8503893/konami-delists-itself-from-new-york-stock-exchange This just in Konami and Capcom merge so they can ignore more IP's.04/27/2015 - 3:50pm
E. Zachary KnightNot really. I think people are overly critical of other game projects. Delays should be expected and shouldn't be considered a major failing and worthy of the crap they get.04/27/2015 - 3:09pm
Matthew WilsonI agree that Double Fine gets off way too easy compared to others.04/27/2015 - 2:40pm
PHX Corphttps://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/592762131264733185/photo/1 a Transcript reguarding the Situation at Konami has been found(CEO Went Nuts over mobile and wanted kojima removed from the company)04/27/2015 - 2:25pm
E. Zachary KnightMatthew, delaying games has been amassive point of contention for games that raised a fraction of what Double Fine did.04/27/2015 - 2:14pm
Matthew Wilsonand yes they went way way over budget from what I read.04/27/2015 - 12:33pm
Matthew Wilson@AE if they cancaled it there would be massive outrage, but people tend to be ok with a delayed game.04/27/2015 - 12:32pm
IvresseBleh, can't edit shout on my phone :-/04/27/2015 - 12:32pm
Andrew EisenHell, the Kickstarter itself raised WAY more than DF was asking but I saw no accusations of impropriety.04/27/2015 - 12:31pm
Andrew EisenA little over three years later (two and a half years after the estimated delivery date), the Double Fine Adventure Kickstarter finally delivered the game. Oddly, I never saw anyone accuse Double Fine of scamming or conning anyone.04/27/2015 - 12:30pm
Ivresse@PHX Corp: Not only that, but Konami have just delisted themselves from the NYSE:http://polygon.com/e/826793404/27/2015 - 12:28pm
Matthew Wilsonwhile I felt bad for everyone outside the US who wanted to watch the HOTS finals, the fact it was on espn 2 in prime time is a major major step forward for video games.04/27/2015 - 12:14pm
james_fudgeThanks Papa!04/27/2015 - 10:43am
PHX Corphttp://kotaku.com/its-official-silent-hills-is-cancelled-1700379816# It's Official: Silent Hills Is Cancelled04/27/2015 - 9:48am
Papa MidnightI also hope that legislation holds the individual(s) who initiated the action is criminally liable for any and all harm that may come to persons involved (whether it be the cops or the victim(s)), as well as any property damaged suffered by any party.04/27/2015 - 8:16am
Papa MidnightJames: Small typographical error in the article for the NY Congressman's legislation: earlier is misspelled as "earlkier" (context: "Chuck Schumer (D) earlkier this month.")04/27/2015 - 8:14am
Matthew WilsonUC berkeley won, and they 3 years of free tuition for winning.04/26/2015 - 11:26pm
Matthew Wilsonhttp://espn.go.com/watchespn/…/id/2497649/Heroes-of-the-Dorm heroes of the storm is being broadcast live on espn 2 never thought a moba would get a time slot like this on tv.04/26/2015 - 9:30pm
Matthew Wilsonhttp://reason.com/archives/2015/04/09/the-dmca-chill-factor this is why the dmca should be changed or gotten rid off.04/26/2015 - 6:41pm
PHX Corphttp://www.thejimquisition.com/2015/04/assassins-creed-chronicles-china-review/ anyone seen this04/26/2015 - 4:19pm
 

Be Heard - Contact Your Politician