Ngmoco CEO: 'NGP is Dead on Arrival'

March 2, 2011 -

Mobile phone game publisher Ngmoco CEO Neil Young says that Sony's upcoming and current handhelds are dead in the water. "PSP is done and the NGP is dead on arrival" says Young, who blames the iPhone for the systems' demise. He also believes that there ae big troubles ahead for handhelds in the future thanks to iOS and Android devices.

"I think they are hurt; I think they're clearly hurt. I think PSP is done and the new [NGP] is dead on arrival," he told IndustryGamers. "It's really difficult to compete with an app store that has hundreds of thousands of applications and a wide range of options where the average price paid is around $1.20 and there are tens, if not hundreds of thousands of free applications that are really high quality. So I just don't think Sony's going to be able to compete with that."

Young also disagreed that the NGP recreates a "PS3 quality experience," and said the functionality of iOS devices outweighs the processing power of Sony's devices. He had kinder words for Nintendo's handheld:

"I think Nintendo will likely be competitive," he said. "Nintendo has great franchises and there are tens of millions of people who want to participate in those franchises, so that always helps... But the real question is the degree to which there's a third-party community."

As a publisher of iPhone and Android games, Young is biased.

Source: Industry Gamers, by way of The Escapist


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Re: Ngmoco CEO: 'NGP is Dead on Arrival'

Still haven't figured out the point of having that touch pad in the back yet.  Just seems pointless when it already has a touch screen on the front...

NGP already lost me when it removed backwards compatibility.  They should have learned their lesson with the PSPGo when that lacked UMD support and forced people who purchased it to RE-BUY the games they had already purchased.  I know that Nintendo made a rather silly move by taking out the support of previous Game Boy classics but I also think at that point, those classics were out of print/extremely hard to find.  At least they kept support of the GBA for a couple years since that handheld generation was amazing.


I feel that the NGP is more gimmicky than the 3DS, and that just doesn't seem right.  I also dislike the whole "BETTER GRAPHICS" deal because when people play handheld games, they don't play it for graphics.  They play it for the game itself.  Why do you think Mario games are successful?  This could just be me though as I came from a generation of playing those classic "TIGER" handheld greats...
 

Touch screen games work if you do it right.  More than half the library of DS games enable the ability to play WITHOUT the touch screen, to which I prefer playing anyways.  There are the occasions where I will play with it (usually in forced scenarios or if it just seems appropriate to play it as such), but that's the point.  Give the option to play without it, like Sony has been doing with some of their "Move Enabled" games.  Give people the chance to adjust to new things or give them something so that they CAN adjust to (Wii Sports).

Re: Ngmoco CEO: 'NGP is Dead on Arrival'

Yes, because I'm sure that the latest smartphone game "Physic puzzle game #789068940" will dominate the market and kill Sony once and for all, because their expensive, and fully developed game products just don't compare to the complexity and depth that goes into games like Angry Birds. Nevermind entirely that there are very few ipod/ipad/android games that can even be measured against the average release on the slowly dying PSP.

This dumb crap is getting out of hand.

Re: Ngmoco CEO: 'NGP is Dead on Arrival'

Of course Sony can compete with the various 'marketplaces'.

Though there is a meme going around in the industry that they can no.  My old company had a manager who was terrified at soem bedroom developers will produce high quality games for really cheap (since they don't have a company to maintain) and swamp our commercial releases.

Never happened.  Why?  Small/bedroom developers put out some good stuff, but it is in a whole differnt category to the type of game that requires a whole team of developers working 40-60h/week for months, plus half a dozen testers, plus artists, plus a server team.  They are no more competition then motorcycles are to the pickup truck industry.

 

Still, executives and marketers who do not really think highly of their teams or the amount of work/refinement/content that goes into larger scale games continue to spread this meme....

Re: Ngmoco CEO: 'NGP is Dead on Arrival'

Nintendo's dominated the handheld market for 20 years, and for good reason. If the 400,000 3DSs sold in Japan in less than 10 hours are any indication, that trend isn't going to stop soon.

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Re: Ngmoco CEO: 'NGP is Dead on Arrival'

"As a publisher of iPhone and Android games, Young is biased."

'nuff said.

Re: Ngmoco CEO: 'NGP is Dead on Arrival'

"...hundreds of thousands of...applications that are really high quality..."

'nuff said.

Re: Ngmoco CEO: 'NGP is Dead on Arrival'

not a chance in hell would i go to these touch pads for gaming.. not only does it require i cover half the screen with my fingers, but the terrible accuracy/control is just enough to make me want to break the phone..

sure my Droid has a keyboard/d-pad, but new ones don't, and the bindable controls in games on it are limited (even in Duke3D i can't bind it very well)

but i'd prefer a 3DS or NGP anyday over the phones.

not to mention finding a good game among the loads upon loads of garbageware the things get... its half the reason my DSi has been nothing more than an alarm clock for pretty much as long as i've owned it. Theres just to few good games to stand out, fewer with decent controls (the touch pad was a terrible idea for anything short of minigames, and otherwise rarely utilized in a reasonable manner that it wasn't just a burden rather than a help), and the PSP's good titles stick out despite theres so many bad.

tbh i don't understand why people hate the PSP so much, bad design aside, some of the games are pretty good. the mobile PSX titles downloaded from the PSN is awesome, and the SOCOM/MGS games are a blast with really good GFX for being on a handheld. course those are only the top 2 in the list. sure it has its trash titles too, but what console/handheld doesn't. I truly believe most that hate it, never even tried it, with only a few that had, and i mean more than a 15 minute romp with a buddies and no real chance to play/try anything worth talking about.

Re: Ngmoco CEO: 'NGP is Dead on Arrival'

I thought I heard the PSP2 would also run Android and support all of it's apps and games.  

I could see the PSP2 doing well if that is the case.  Otherwise I don't see it doing well at all.

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Re: Ngmoco CEO: 'NGP is Dead on Arrival'

I think rumours are abundant at this time, I know that the Xperia Play runs Android and it would be great if the PSP2/NGP did too, then the two devices would be cross-compatibile. But given Sony's track record on being able to join the dots, it might not happen.

However, it would be excellent if it did. Then you'd have the PSP2, PSN and Android marketplace libraries, plus emulators for classic games. 

Re: Ngmoco CEO: 'NGP is Dead on Arrival'

....... the reason the PSP never really flew off the ground was UMD, it dose not use UMD hell it can't even play PSP games without a trip and loss of blood,sweat and tears to the PSNgods...er  store.

All in all the PSP2 is a much better designed unit wish they would have tried harder to get soem BWC going with a wireless UDM unit(which is not THAT hard to make) but since nintendo is dropping BWC support it seems a sign of the times....oh well at elast flash carts already run on the DS 1.5 *giggles*.

 


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Re: Ngmoco CEO: 'NGP is Dead on Arrival'

that's some harsh words zippy (i dunno)

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Re: Ngmoco CEO: 'NGP is Dead on Arrival'

I can't help it the 3DS is 2 ducktaped DS's, it will do well but I am not impressed. The PSP2 is better thought out as a game machine and not a gimmicky thing that the DS was that ruined some of the better games for it with the tossed in touch options.

Now the PSP2 is not GREAT but they did finaly put in that 2snd nub, UMD held the PSP back but it would have been very nice to have a wireless option for it so people who supported the PSP don;t have to shell out more to get thier libary on the PSP2.

 


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