PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

March 4, 2011 -

In light of a rather racy commercial and confirmation from Ubisoft that We Dare is intended for mature audiences, many are still a bit surprised to learn that PEGI rated the game 12.

Cubed3.com sought comment from the rating board who explained:

“PEGI does not take into account the context of a game when rating it, we only look at the contents of the game. [We Dare] has been rated as a PEGI 12 because it contains mild swearing, minor assault on a human-like character and words/activities that amount to obvious sexual innuendo, explicit sexual descriptions or images and sexual posturing.”

The PEGI spokesperson further revealed that it did consider that the sexual atmosphere surrounding the game might justify a higher rating but the idea was rejected by the Video Standards Council, the independent organization that verifies the final ratings.

“This means that the game itself is in fact less sexual/offensive than the marketing campaign leads us to believe (for example, you cannot see real spanking in the game. There is a 'stripping game' but you don't have to undress; throwing away keys or anything that reduces your weight is good enough).”

Indeed, a look at the Ubisoft’s product page for the game reveals the following bullet point:

“You can also use your Wii Balance Board for additional game play based on pure mass... are you the lightest one in the group?  Perhaps shedding some clothes will even the playing field... it’ll definitely make the party more interesting!”

It will be interesting to see what the game itself actually instructs players to do when it comes out next week and someone actually plays it.

-Reporting from San Diego, GamePolitics Contributing Editor Andrew Eisen


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Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

So parents can just use their own initiative, look at the cover, recognise the probably adult themes even if there is no explicit content in the game, and not buy the game for the child.

Everybody wins?

Except for parents who are, for some bizarre reason, letting their 12-year-olds buy their own games. Ultimately, ratings are for actual content, not suggestion, which can always be highly interpretative.

Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

I watched my Mii get to 3rd base in wii sports, that didn't necessarily mean that the game wanted me to....unless....*runs off to play wii*

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Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

I would rather have my kid play a game with sex in it then one that has people getting there heads cut off.

Sex is natural and a 12 year old has that desire, Thats the age it starts to really kick in.

When did sex become worse then violence?

Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

So basically, you're ok with your child becoming a whore at 12.. Niiiice. 

Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

It's not just a game with sex in it, it's a game that instructs you to strip and presumably other sexy things as well. I doubt this game was intended for teens.

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Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

When it comes out next fall? HUH? It's already out guys! 

PS3 (move required) and Wii.

Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

A grand screw up on my part but I'm still not sure it's out yet.

From the product page: RELEASE DATE: 11/03/2011

Of course, I read that as November 3rd.  Oops.  That would be March 11th.  Then again, further down the page it says Feb. 10th.  But, I can't find it in Ubi's store and I haven't seen any reviews or previews of this game.

Hmm...

Amazon UK says March 11 for both.  I'm going to go with that.  Let me know where you see that it's already released.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

Know what's funny?

Photoshop a bullet somewhere on the case art (floor, chair...) then send it again for evaluation, and watch it jump from 12 to 18 

Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

That isn't funny because it isn't true. There are plenty of games with guns and violence in that have 12 (or lower certificates).

Look at the controversy surrounding San Andreas, people complained about the sex, not the violence. Some games get a higher rating based purely on some mild sex.

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No offense, but you kinda suck at taking things lightly... It was a joke. 

Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

100% accurate call by PEGI here.  It's just like how Wii Sports is still rated E, even if I'm using it to facilitate one of my famous "Drunken Baseball" parties.

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Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

Yes but what if the game actually instructed you to take a drink after every at bat?

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

Then they'd have to look into the context of that message to determine the effect on the rating.  Are they explicitly referring to an alcoholic drink?  Are the onscreen characters shown imbibing?  And the details would be taken into account as well: the beverage's appearance (clear, red, cola-brown) and receptacle (bottles, glasses, or cups) would have an influence.  (I see that Smokey's covered this but I spent a whole three minutes writing it and I'll be damned if I let that brief amount of my life go to waste.)

I'm a little surprised to learn that they hadn't gone further, actually.  The cartoony onscreen whatnot I saw in the videos didn't really seem to match up with the suggested actions for the players -- what's with the magic ring windsurf adventure castle?  That doesn't say "attractive" to me, that says "Wario Ware."

By the way, saw your article on the menacing qualities of Twister, nice work.

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Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

Ha.  Thanks for that.

Yeah, I'm very interested to check out exactly how We Dare plays.  Of course, being in California, I probably won't get that chance so I guess I'll have to make do with reviews and previews.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

If all it said was "Take a drink", that could mean anything; milk, water, pop, etc. If it said "Take a shot of Crown Royal" or "Down a beer", there'd be an issue.

Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

Exactly.  We're just going to have to wait and see exactly what We Dare is asking players to do.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

"[We Dare] has been rated as a PEGI 12 because it contains mild swearing, minor assault on a human-like character and words/activities that amount to obvious sexual innuendo, explicit sexual descriptions or images and sexual posturing.”

Words/activities that amount to explicit sexual descriptions or images and sexual posturing?  That strikes me as befitting a rating higher than 12 but hey, I haven't seen the game yet so who knows?

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

>The PEGI spokesperson further revealed that it did consider that the sexual atmosphere surrounding the game might justify a higher rating but the idea was rejected by the Video Standards Council, the independent organization that verifies the final ratings.

Now that is interesting.

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...Wait what?

Re: PEGI On We Dare's 12 Rating

I know!  Right?

 

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