Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

March 17, 2011 -

We have to write a story about Jack Thompson today. The anti-video game firebrand and former Florida attorney fired off a letter to Valve Software threatening to do something (we're not sure what he is threatening to do because he hasn't indicated the consequences in his letter to Valve's CEO) if the company doesn't do something about the Half-Life 2 mod, "School Shooter: North American Tour 2012."

Before we get into what Valve can actually do about a mod it has nothing to do with, here is Thompson's letter:

"Dear Mr. Newell:

You either know or should know that the more moral midgets who run Checkerboarded Studios have created a mod for your company's Half-Life which they call School Shooter: North American Tour 2012. This mod is a full-blown Columbine massacre simulator which cannot function without your company's assistance and acquiescence.

Attached herewith is a letter from FHE-ASAP that expresses their, my, and others' concerns about this Columbine massacre mod. As you either know or should know, your Half-Life murder simulator was obsessively played, and thus became a training aid, for a) teenaged Robert Steinhauser, who authored at Erfurt, Germany, the worst school shooting massacre in European history, and b) Seung-Hi Cho, who authored at Virginia Tech University the worst school shooting massacre in world history. As to the latter, the sources of this information are the Washington Post and the New York Times. Now some sociopaths have made reprises of Erfurt and Virginia Tech far more likely.

Given the fact that your company has the technological ability to stop the operation of School Shooter, you must undertake steps immediately to do so.

Speaking for myself alone (for now), you have until five o'clock pm Eastern standard time this Friday, March 18, 2011, to shut down this public safety hazard I predicted years ago this school massacre game would arrive. I hate being right all the time.

GOVERN YOURSELF ACCORDINGLY.

Regards, Jack Thompson"

Okay.. We're not going to bother with the claims Thompson continues to make about the cause of various school shootings around the globe (or that Half-Life - a game about fighting aliens in a secret government facility - is somehow a murder simulator), but we do wonder what legal obligation Valve Software has to censor any mod. I'm not a lawyer, but i'd guess they probably have no obligation or authority to do anything about it. Besides, it’s not like Valve is spotlighting the mod or serving it up via Steam..

Source: The Escapist by way of TheSmokey. Thanks a lot TheSmokey, thanks a lot. Ahem.


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Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

So, 5pm Friday, March 18, 2011, came and went.

And?

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Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

*Tumbleweed rolls by*

 

I guess that shows what happened.

 

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Did the New York Times say anything about Cho playing Counter-Strike? The New York Times did have a story about his parents worrying that Cho would "retreat to video games and playing basketball alone the way he did at home" (https://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/us/22vatech.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2), but it didn't mention Counter-Strike by name.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Jack, please stop lying about Seung-Hi Cho playing Counter-Strike. You know the Washington Post removed that ancecdote from their article.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Valve can no more regulate mods than paper companies can stop people from drawing penises on their product.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

I don't know how John Bruce can think firing a gun is as easy as clicking a mouse, especially since in an interview he stated he owns a gun for home defense. You'd think he'd know the dangers of weapon kickback if one's arms are not prepared.

Then again, I used to think the same thing… when I was five years old and all I had to go by was learned watching Batman starring Adam West.

岩「if Phyllis Schlafly wants to undo Women's Rights, she should lead by example and get back in the kitchen」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

I bet Jack Thompson doesn't carry through with his threat, yet again, Who's with me? 

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Being that Thompson never once followed through with any of his ultimatums, I'd say that's a pretty safe bet.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

that's 0 for how many now?

岩「if Phyllis Schlafly wants to undo Women's Rights, she should lead by example and get back in the kitchen」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

I think he missed out the part where he demands one hundred billion dollars.

Oh wait, that's megalomaniacal movie villains. My bad. So easy to get confused!

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

cue faux news story in 3....2....1....

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Well Jack.  Long time, no see.  As Im a regular user of Valves services, I just had to respond.

 

"Dear Mr. Newell:

You either know or should know that the more moral midgets who run Checkerboarded Studios have created a mod for your company's Half-Life which they call School Shooter: North American Tour 2012. This mod is a full-blown Columbine massacre simulator which cannot function without your company's assistance and acquiescence.

Actually assistance from Valve is not needed in distributing the mod .The tools to make the mod came with any game released using Valves Source engine.The only help Valve could've given them was to distribute the mod through the Steam store. Upon a recent check of 5 minutes ago, I found that the mod was not available through Steam.

Attached herewith is a letter from FHE-ASAP that expresses their, my, and others' concerns about this Columbine massacre mod. As you either know or should know, your Half-Life murder simulator was obsessively played, and thus became a training aid, for a) teenaged Robert Steinhauser, who authored at Erfurt, Germany, the worst school shooting massacre in European history, and b) Seung-Hi Cho, who authored at Virginia Tech University the worst school shooting massacre in world history.

As to the latter, the sources of this information are the Washington Post and the New York Times. .

*blows raspberry* 

Yeah right. You told the media that Seung-Hi Cho played Counter Strike, even BEFORE he was identified.

Given the fact that your company has the technological ability to stop the operation of School Shooter, you must undertake steps immediately to do so.

The mod isnt distributed through Steam, nor does it violate Valves Terms of Service or any copyright laws. So technically speaking, Valve can't do anything to stop it. 

Speaking for myself alone (for now), you have until five o'clock pm Eastern standard time this Friday, March 18, 2011, to shut down this public safety hazard

Why? Whats the threat, Jack? Gonna throw another lawsuit? Oh wait. You lost your licence to practice law! The only hazards you've encountered over your career, is the amount of tax payer money going to waste over your claims.

I predicted years ago this school massacre game would arrive. I hate being right all the time.

Just now, I remember what a prophetic state "A Modest Video Game Proposal" was.


GOVERN YOURSELF ACCORDINGLY.

Which is something you've never been capable of doing.

 

 

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

He's like the Charlie Sheen of lawyers. He's lost his job and any credibility due to his own actions, but in his mind he's a winner. 

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

ah nostalgia....

 

ok, now i'm sick of it.. next!

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

He hates being right all the time?

I supposed he must've known that he would lose his license to practice law, then?

Jack Thompson is the most awesome troll I have ever known. Trust me, it's better thinking he's a troll than thinking humanity really is that shoddy.

-- Randi Tastix

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

he hates being right-wing but the other parties won't accept him

岩「if Phyllis Schlafly wants to undo Women's Rights, she should lead by example and get back in the kitchen」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

He's too nutty for even the TEA party.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

by Jack's (lack of) logic, if I were to Photoshop a photo of Jack so the end result is a photo of Jack performing a felony, he could be taken to court, the photo could be used as "evidence" and Jack would be fully accountable, despite the fact that he had nothing to do with it or that it even took place to begin with.

岩「if Phyllis Schlafly wants to undo Women's Rights, she should lead by example and get back in the kitchen」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Actually, by John Bruce's (lack of) logic, while you could be held accountable for fraud (in the use of false evidence), the makers, publishers, and any employees that were associated with the creation of Photoshop would be held responsible for the fact that their product was not somehow security protected from YOU using Photoshop to create the fake evidence in the first place.

Nightwng2000

NW2K Software

http://www.facebook.com/nightwing2000

Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

Nightwng2000 NW2K Software http://www.facebook.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

but Jack provided the seed photo, much like how VALVe provided Half-Life. and the doctored photo, which Jack had nothing to do with, is the parallel to the mod, which VALVe had nothing to do with.

and false evidence is just solid false testimony, which Jack doesn't believe is a crime. besides, nowhere in the example does it say that I submitted the false evidence or even intended it to be used as such.

岩「if Phyllis Schlafly wants to undo Women's Rights, she should lead by example and get back in the kitchen」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

According to Jack's logic, if a news outlet showed/printed the picture, but then retracted it after discovering it was a fake: it doesn't matter if it was a fake or not, they showed/printed it, so it must be true!

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Awwww... has he stopped using the "esq." reference?  Guess he's caught on that he can face jail time if he implies that he has any legal power beyond that of just another average citizen.

Of course, one COULD go back, pull his letters that imply such where he DID use "esq." and demand his arrest.  After all, another individual, who had at one time been an attorney in another state, used the "esq." term in their own letters while in Florida, where they were not a member of the Bar, and the State Attorney General's office has had them arrested because of said connection between "esq." and the implication that the individaul could legally practice law.

As to his claim of being right all the time: lies, deceit, misinformation, and mentally disturbed, sociopathic delusions do not a "right" make.

BTW, I'd like to see what a college organization, having to do with Subtance Abuse, (FHE-ASAP) supposedly had to say about such a game mod.  Were these individuals, dealing with CURRENT college students, not aware of the difference between an original commercially made game and a mod made by someone not affiliated with the company at all?

Nightwng2000

NW2K Software

http://www.facebook.com/nightwing2000

Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

Nightwng2000 NW2K Software http://www.facebook.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

"We have to write a story about Jack Thompson today."

No you didn't.  :)

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Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

let's make a Jack Thompson Murder Smiulator mod

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

"I hate being right all the time."

Sounds like it.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

My guess is that Jacky Boys' Unemployment ran out and he doesn't qualify for Welfare and Food Stamps.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Wow. That made me realized how much I almost missed JT. Without him, I was lost and alone, searching for someone else to mock. Justin Bieber only holds off the hunger for so long.

"Power means nothing without honor and pride."

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Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

I find myself agreeing with Jack on one point.  I don't like the idea of this mod.  I think it's in poor taste.

My reaction is to not play it.

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Chris Kimberley

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Chris Kimberley

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Hilarious part is no one would have ever known of it had he just left it alone.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

No, we all heard of it before Thompson started to complain about it.

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Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

True.  GP reported on it about two weeks ago.

http://gamepolitics.com/2011/03/01/school-shooter-north-american-tour-20...

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

I actually hadn't or at least forgot about it before this.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

That would've required common sense though, and Mr. Thompson doesn't have any of that.  Basically, he just played right into those guys hands and gave them the contrversy they wanted.


Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Good on you! That is a mature way to respond :)

Jack on the other hand...

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James Fletcher, member of ECA Canada

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

The sad thing is that the letter reads like the ramblings of a crazy person. I kind of think Jack Thompson might really have sort of undiagnosed mental disorder, although I am not qualified to make such a diagnosis. His letter and behavior just seem too unusual.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

It is narcissistic personality disorder. Sadly only takes 6 out of 9 of the symptoms to be classified as being labelled to have the disorder. Jack wins on 9 out of 9. At last he is finally winning on something.
 

Why here are the signs of the disorder!!!

    • An exaggerated sense of one's own abilities and achievements.
    • A constant need for attention, affirmation and praise.
    • A belief that he or she is unique or "special" and should only associate with other people of the same status.
    • Persistent fantasies about attaining success and power.
    • Exploiting other people for personal gain.
    • A sense of entitlement and expectation of special treatment.
    • A preoccupation with power or success.
    • Feeling envious of others, or believing that others are envious of him or her.
    • A lack of empathy for others. 

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James Fletcher, member of ECA Canada

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

This latest move by Jack prompted me to pull out the Final Report by the Referee summarizing his disbarrment proceedings.  It's great reading, and every time I read it there is more and more stuff I notice- about how Jack is an even worse person than he gets credit for.  

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Oh, and another:

"The testimony at the Final Hearing and the exhibits in evidence show, the vitriolic statements sent

by Mr. Thompson to all of these individuals and entities, regarding the allegations addressed herein

relating to Mr. Cardenas and Mr. Kellogg, were false, fabricated and, in fact, constituted outright lies."

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Here's one of my favorites:

 

"As to this count involving Tew Cardenas, the conduct and motivation

of Mr. Thompson as proven by the evidence surpasses the extreme, at the

very least. It is almost hard to imagine a lawyer comporting himself in this

wholly reckless manner, but the evidence shows beyond any doubt that the

Respondent in fact, did so. Mr. Thompson caused a series of chain reactions

of utterly inappropriate, offensive and debasing conduct that belies any sense

of moral decency and professionalism." 

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Hmm, well,. he recut his record at least, no mention of his book fox news or 60 minutes.

Not to mention absolutely none of us would have known about this source mod had he kept his mouth shut about it or at least didn't have this need to let the worl know of his exploits.

He's alos late to the part since Half-Life 2 has had two expansions os far with a third hopefully on the way.

 

Also, Thompson, if Half-Life 2 is in any way a simulator, where's my fucking Gravity Gun!!?!?!?!?!?!?

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

or the headcrabs?

岩「if Phyllis Schlafly wants to undo Women's Rights, she should lead by example and get back in the kitchen」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Screw headcrabs, I demand my Zero Point energy Field Manipulator.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

I still have the email Jack Thompson sent me way back in 2004 where he told me to get a life.

I should buy a T-shirt commemorating it. "I Was Insulted by Jack Thompson Before It Was Cool".

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Lol, I remember when he threated me to sue me for slander because I said that he choosed to be crazy. I´m still waiting, Jackie.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

I can top that. I had the honor of being called ON MY HOME PHONE by the guy . . . and then he threatened to sue me.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

*sigh*

Yeah, I guess I could have skipped the story and not mentioned it in the Shoutbox, but darn it ....

I almost missed the guy :-)

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Oh lordy lordy lordy. While, we all this man nothing but crazy trouble (EZK, remeber that one time long ago?) and as always he's goes about the wrong way, I have to say, the mod kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Still this is funny as hell to see that this nutjob of a former lawyer is still around.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Looks like he hasn't deleted his form letter, though he did at least remove his "I was on fox news blah blah blah..." part.

Re: Jack Thompson Threatens Valve over School Shooting Mod

Funny how a mod wasn't a game when it came to witholding money from charity but suddenly it's good enough when it's time to desperately validate his "prediction". What a slimeball.

Anyway, who does he think he's kidding? He actually thinks anyone involved in this doesn't know who he is, what he does, and what his pattern of failure is. Pathetic.

 
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