Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

June 27, 2011 -

While Leland Yee maybe disappointed with the U.S. Supreme Court's decision to uphold the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals decision on Brown v. EMA, he says that he isn't done with the fight against violent videogames, according to multiple reports. One story from ABC station KGO and another from newspaper The San Francisco Appeal report says that Yee was heartened by the dissenting opinions of Thomas and Breyer, and that comments from Justices John Roberts and Samuel Alito have left the door open for future legislation.

"Even with the existing court, there may be, if we craft the bill differently, there may be a basis for trying to get another hearing within the Supreme Court on this critical matter," Yee said.

Yee added that he will be studying the concurring and dissenting opinions to try to craft a revised bill that will pass a constitutional test. Of course, maybe if he had done this in the first place instead of relying on questionable research and political bluster, we'd be reporting on a different decision today.

Sources: The San Francisco Appeal, KGO


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Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

You know, despite all the greedy self-serving nut jobs that are representing the American Tea Party right now, Leland Yee (and also Joe Baca as well) actually make the Tea Party look sane and decent in comparison at this point...just saying =/

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

I hope they never catch onto it, it's not liek they need another blanket statement.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

It's a scary thought as mayor of a major California city puts him in the loop to run for Govenor...

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Yee wants to be mayor of SF and this type of stuff he believes will help him get there. I think he is sorely misunderstanding what those voters care about though and really hope he does not win. Once he either wins or loses that post he'll forget all about this stuff.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Indeed. It's kind of hard to get people to forget about real problems when their road is full of potholes and the state can't even affor a patch job.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Yee needs to realize that SCOTUS will never take him seriously as long as he is only singling out Video Games.

You either attack this issue for all media formats (books, movies, games, music) or you shut the fuck up.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Of course if he DOES try and include all media formats, he'll get slapped down even harder. Precident has been set children.

 

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Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Like I read from someone else, it's all about politics at this point.  He made promises to get financial backing for this, and he blew it.  He can't go to those people he managed to convince to back that crazy bill and say to them,  "Well shucks.  I guess we screwed up.  That's it for us.  See you later!"  That's like a big company that fails after releasing a bad product; the investors won't let them off that easily.  He's done and he knows it.  But he has to make it look good so that the people who backed him won't feel like he wasted their money (which he did).  It's all about appearances.  That's politics for you.

Also, I remember Hal Halpin saying in an interview tha if Yee did come back with another bill, it would be very likely that the state of California at this point would say, "Thanks, but no thanks.  You had your chance and it ended up costing us more than we were willing to invest.  We've got more worthwhile problems now.  Please go away."  And like  Attack_Gypsy said, Brown proably won't go for it.  As AG at the time, he was there when the bill was first introduced and followed its progress.  You think he's going to allow that to happen a second time?  Especially now that he's governor?  I think not.

And finally, if Yee's running for mayor, he'll find his energies going more into campaigning.  But like someone else here said, this could end up becoming a BIG liability for him.  All his opponent has to do is run an ad saying how much of CA's badly-needed money were wasted getting a bill that was doomed to failure all the way up to the Supreme Court, and that'll pretty much torpedo his chances of winning the election.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Again reiterating, Yee is such a crybaby.

And a motard. Did he not read Scalia's majority opinion? It doesn't matter if he reworks the bill or not, SCOTUS says that it would be unconstitional. In fact, in his concurrence, Alito basically admitted that Scalia's opinion made it that any law regulating violent game sales to minors wouldn't be allowed.

Lyle Denniston of SCOTUSBlog even says as much: 

The Court used the broadest constitutional language open to it to accomplish that result, apparently leaving no room for government to try different approaches.

http://www.scotusblog.com/2011/06/analysis-of-old-values-and-modernity/

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Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

"Even with the existing court, there may be, if we craft the bill differently, there may be a basis for trying to get another hearing within the Supreme Court on this critical matter," Yee said.

He's nuts. Even if he managed to get a bill that garnered the support of Roberts and Alito, that would still only be 4 out of 9. The majority opinion written by Scalia and supported by 4 of the other justices makes it quite clear that NO legistlation is going to get through.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

""Even with the existing court, there may be, if we craft the bill differently, there may be a basis for trying to get another hearing within the Supreme Court on this critical matter," Yee said."

Crafting a reworded bill, for the purpose of circumventing the US Constitution, using the same "evidence" that you used before, ie crappy studies that don't prove squat, STILL means taking a crappy bill that attempts to circumvent the US Constitution using that same "evidence" that was dismissed as crap all the way up to the US Supreme Court.

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Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Such a thing should be grounds for removal from office, especially if it already failed.

It sounds like he's saying he knows better than the supreme court.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

If he did, he would have crafted a better law in the first place, one that would have been accepted in every court he took it to.

He's fucked- and he knows it.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

If he knew better he would have given up this charade and not wasted money the state needs right now.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Yee you lost, move on.

Stop wasting our money on your unnecessary crusade.

-A California resident

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Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Yeah Yee go ahead and do that, the rest of the state will move on and try to solve actually problems now.

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Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

It would be nice if they realized that Yee is a problem and tried to solve it by not re-electing him.

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Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Oh for the love of...

...fine waste however millions more of California taxpayer's money, and all of our time...

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

There's no way you can alter this bill to make it constitutional. Trying to block the sale of violent video games will always violate the first amendment. 

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Wow, I didn't realize that the financial disaster that is California's budget deficit was already over, which it certainly must be if they have the money to waste on another attempt like this.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

*Face palm*  You lost, get over it!

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

What's that definition of insanity again?  "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -- Albert Einstein.

 

 

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

That's a useful saying and all, but I've never seen a single primary source give any evidence that Einstein actually said it.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Not only that, but it doesn't really match insane behavior very well in the first place.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

WOW! I mean Wow. If i didn't hate this hypocritical nanny-statist enough already this just makes me more pissed. Leland Yee is offically worse then Jack Thompson. At least Thompson had the good sense to quit. Please Cali citizens for the sake of God and taxpayers money vote this guy out of office, Please!

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Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Plus Thompson didn't have any real power despite his claims to the contrary.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

As long as Yee has a D next to his name, his district will continue to vote for him.

And for the record the state is pretty much bankrupt.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Well... that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger...

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---You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Gov. Moonbeam won't sign a new bill. He's not THAT dumb.

 

 

 

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Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

He continues to use California State tax payers' money for his campaign funds. He should be convicted of fraud.

This is NOTHING but re-election campaigning. It's never been anything else to begin with.

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Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Why would you read dissents to try and craft a new, successful law?  They're DISSENTS.  As in not part of the law.   

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Speaking of money, how much has gone into this legal battle?

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

I'd say ANY amount into this vanity project is too much.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Also, since Yee lost and is STILL willing to persue this, he is officially what Jack Thompson would be if Thompson had gained any real power.

Another factor being that it's not his money he's spending, and I would be in full support of any law that said the money for a failed law comes out of that politician's pocket.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Some free advice, Yee:

1.  Identify a problem that actually exists.

2.  Write a law that would actually alleviate that problem.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

That's advice good for ALL politicians. I think it's far too frequently ignored.

 

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

I will designate any politician who practices common sense a super hero.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

The problem is, they DO practice common sense... as the public sees it.

Yee pulls this stuff because it gets him votes.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

this idiotic moron needs to be voted out of office....NOW!

 

Yee lost, it's over, he needs to go away.....sigh.....

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

As long as he uses this study in pressing forward. http://bit.ly/kSinQG

 

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Not relevant.  Leland Yee is not a Bible-thumper.  He is a California Democrat- hardly working on a theistic agenda. 

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Actually, it is relevant

1) Shows it's not just games

2) Maybe people will think more if the Bible is included in that ratings push 

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

That's right Yee. Let's study the SCOTUS's open OPINIONS, instead of FACTS. I mean, who wants those, right?

Instead of studying the positive effects of cybernatography, let's study how politics can be manipulated so a crooked bill can be passed.

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Yee needs to...

1) Stop using lies, cherry-picked quotes, discredited research, and fearmongering.

2) Decide if spending more of other people's money (the taxpayer) on such an uphill battle is warranted.

3) Determine whether working on parental awareness of game ratings would be more productive than spending years in court.

4) Read the 1st Amendment.

 

Of course, his mayoral aspirations may take precedence for his time for now. 

Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

Yee ought to read the 1st Amendment first to tell you the truth.

 

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Re: Yee Vows to Fight on Despite SCOTUS Decision

So, after wasting a metric fuckton of money on a bill that many people knew would fail, his answer is to..... piss away even MORE of a near bankrupt state's money on a vanity project.

 
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