A Mother's 'Long-Overdue Reaction' to Brown v. EMA

September 15, 2011 -

I'm all for letters to the editor, but one written by one Tina L. Bechtel, is particularly over the top and needs to be read to be believed. The Marysville, California mother of at least one son (at least the one she mentions in her letter) delivers what she calls her "long-overdue reaction to the 'supreme sellout' of our children," referring to the Supreme Court's decision earlier this year in the Brown v. EMA case. We'll let you read her short letter and judge for yourselves, but clearly Tina and others like her get information from questionable media outlets... Read on:

"I would like to submit my long-overdue reaction to the "supreme sellout" of our children with the Supreme Court's June 27 decision on the sales of violent video games to minors. The excuses and reasons given to justify this decision are completely ridiculous and make no sense at all.

Restricting access to these violent, sexually explicit games is violating minors' rights to free speech? Does this now mean my son or daughter can go to school and tell the teacher "Good f---ing -orning, you bleep bleep."

According to the Supreme Court, freedom of expression must be preserved at all cost. Then we have the "it's art" excuse. I honestly think the only time you will hear that carjacking, murder, rape, and many other deviant actions rewarded with more points and higher levels categorized as art is when the "art" is bringing in $18 billion a year. Personally, I think they had better take another vote to mandate that at least $15 billion of their profits go toward our future prison system.

With the mixed-up messages our government is sending our children, our future leaders and decision makers, we as parents, educators and mentors are their only hope. Shame on all of involved in the sellout of our children's future and the absolute blatant disregard of how the decision will affect our future society, and the people who will have to live in it, long after they are gone, for today's industrial greed.

Tina L. Bechtel

Marysville, California
"

To paraphrase Tina, I hope everyone has a "Good f---ing -day, you bleep bleeps."

Source: Appeal Democrat


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Re: A Mother's 'Long-Overdue Reaction' to Brown v. EMA

Sigh! I know it's no use, but here's some things this mother should know.

Point 1: Minors do have First Amendment rights against the government. The government can't restrict Free Speech material to them solely because people find it unsuitable or offensive for them.

This leads to the second point that the laws claim they're trying to do: Prevent some kind of harm.

Point 2: Violent Media Research is extremely weak, inconsistent, as well as incredibly flawed and biased. When you find the same effect from playing Grand Theft Auto as that from watching Bugs Bunny, or reading a violent passage of the Bible, you are restricting speech on the basis that it's offensive or unsuitable, not because it supposedly harmful.

Point 3: This is the most important one. Nothing in this ruling stops a parent from preventing their children from playing a video game they don't want them to. It's your house, it's your rules, the state is not a surrogate nanny for you, and it shouldn't be. If we were to ban speech on the basis that parents don't want their children to have it, then we would also have to ban the Bible and Harry Potter novels.

"No law means no law" - Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black on the First Amendment

Re: A Mother's 'Long-Overdue Reaction' to Brown v. EMA

I totally agree and would help to strengthen your argument, but she's not going to read it here.

That poor poor woman. I don't blame her. I blame whoever lied to her. She needs help. She needs to turn her head from those "questionable media outlets," and listen to the truth. I wish I could help her.

Re: A Mother's 'Long-Overdue Reaction' to Brown v. EMA

Tina Bechtel, what you have just said, is one of the most insanely idiotic things I’ve ever read. At no point during your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could have been considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber having read it. I and every other intelligent person in the world award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul, you blistering idiot.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: A Mother's 'Long-Overdue Reaction' to Brown v. EMA

Hmm, I think I can translate.

"I do not think I should ever have to make hard decisions and expect the government to do it for me and everyone else."

 

Seriously, she is just demanding the government do for her what she can already do.

Re: A Mother's 'Long-Overdue Reaction' to Brown v. EMA

Actually, I think her big push was that other parents should not be allowed to make decisions either and that the games are destroying society as a whole.

Re: A Mother's 'Long-Overdue Reaction' to Brown v. EMA

So, the rock and roll argument.

Re: A Mother's 'Long-Overdue Reaction' to Brown v. EMA

And people wonder why I hate this state.

Re: A Mother's 'Long-Overdue Reaction' to Brown v. EMA

Were do they keep finding these idiots? Games deplicting rape? What games? Rapelay? That's the only one I can think of and we all know that was released to every retailer in this country. What's that you say? That game was only released in Japan and the only way to get it in this country is to import it at ridiculously high prices or download it illegally. We won't let those facts stand in the way of a good lie. Not when we can dig up that dead horse and beat it some more. Ah the good old points arguement yet none of the games featuring such deviant behavior that I can find have points. Sure you have to do certain tasks to advance but you still have to watch violent parts of movies to advance their plot as well. I can't believe people still use the sales to minors not being regulated excuse. They are to extremes in some cases. Not to mention the fact that every console has parental controls, games have ratings. All these tools are given to them and then they bitch and moan because they're not using what's been given to them. It's like driving a nail with your forehead when the hammer is inches from your hand. What else can be done short of slapping stupid parents who don't control what their kids play in the head for being dumbasses.

Re: A Mother's 'Long-Overdue Reaction' to Brown v. EMA

Won't someone PLEASE think of the children?!

Since when does free speech mean one has a license to say anything they want in any situation?  Of course it's not socially acceptable to tell someone "Good f---ing -orning."  That doesn't mean it's illegal.

Of course, that's not the issue in the first place.  The real issue is that California had no business legislating good parenting.  It's the responsibility of the adult in the household to prevent the kids from playing games that are inappropriate for their age (preaching to the choir in this forum).

Just my two f---ing cents you bleep bleeps.

Have a good -orning.

Re: A Mother's 'Long-Overdue Reaction' to Brown v. EMA

Actually yes her son can go to class and say that without fear of being arrested or persecuted for it. I think that is a pretty damned good thing too. Since the constitution doesn't remove Tina's ability (or the school's) to instill proper discipline in her children this argument is very weak.

Re: A Mother's 'Long-Overdue Reaction' to Brown v. EMA

Not quite.   Many constitutional protections are suspended for minors when it comes to school (including the school's ability to extend that power outside its boarders).  While I doubt a child could be arrested for those particular words, children have been arrested for things like violent poetry.

Re: A Mother's 'Long-Overdue Reaction' to Brown v. EMA

VIDEOGAMES EXIST AND I AS A PARENT HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHAT THEY PLAY!!!

 
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