In Andrew Eisen's latest video he actually may go bonkers as he contemplates another Legend of Zelda game offering "more than one hundred hours of gameplay." He illustrates the point with Wind Waker. On a personal note, a hundred hours is a drop in the bucket when you are playing Disgaea 4..
Submitted by kagirinai on Tue, 09/20/2011 - 12:21.
Nintendo is terrible; clearly any overworld travel in any of their games should be balls-to-the-wall action all of the time. They should have gotten Irem to make sailing in the Wind Waker in to a bullet hell shooter -- preferably with pixel perfect hitboxes. Then you'd never be bored roaming from dungeon to dungeon! IF MY ADRENALINE ISN'T PUMPING, I'M NOT HAVING FUN!
Wait -- no, wait, that's retarded. I can't be the only person who did not find the Wind Waker's sailing tedious. By the time it started to feel overly repetitive, they started dumping all sorts of hazards in the ocean, and then let you teleport around without much trouble. Sailing was not more boring to me than, say, running around on foot or horseback for hours in Twilight Princess, and Quick Travel is a terrible alternative since it removes a lot of that 'Adventure' component from a series built on... uh, adventure.
Submitted by SpencerRuler on Tue, 09/20/2011 - 20:36.
Yeah, I actually found sailing to be fun, and even a bit overwhelming at the time (I was 13) because I never had so much liberty with where I could go explore.
Living in Canada is awesome. We enjoy the universal healthcare and gun-free environment of a European country while getting all of our games released at the same time as the US.
Submitted by Austin from Oregon on Tue, 09/20/2011 - 19:27.
Additonally, moreso with wind waker than twilight princess, the environments were so great that I always took way longer to get places as I explored all the little nooks, crannies, and islands. I enjoy the travel, and like a break between searching for keys.
Submitted by E. Zachary Knight on Tue, 09/20/2011 - 13:02.
Agreed. I find the sailing portion of Wind Waker to be quite fun and a good change of pace from normal dungeon crawling. I even got to the point that encounters with sharks and pirates frustrated me as I just wanted to sail around.
prh99: Also there is no story in rational and respectful discussion (where you can find it).10/19/2014 - 10:44am
prh99: Well they are probably doing it on Twitter and probably the GG hashtag so any voice reason gets drowned out by idiocy. Also it's far easier to broad brush a group.10/19/2014 - 10:41am
Wonderkarp: dont fool yourself, Technogeek. Remember Mass Effect 3? How about the ferver against Phil Fish?10/19/2014 - 10:18am
MechaTama31: None of which is the fault or responsibility of the people who are not trolling, harassing, threatening, doxxing, etc. So why is their opinion hostage to the people who are?10/19/2014 - 10:06am
Technogeek: If the developer were male there wouldn't have been a "conversation" in the first place.10/19/2014 - 2:27am
Monte: trolls are just at their absolute worst when it comes to women and feminist. You could bet good money that if the developer were male the trolls would be silent and the conversation would actually focus on the journalism.10/18/2014 - 9:18pm
Monte: Papa: Not the first time we've had a journalism scandals before, but the harassment never got close to this level; the difference with this scandal is that feminists are involved. Without the feminist angle, their would be A LOT less harrassment10/18/2014 - 9:15pm
Papa Midnight: Monte: That's honestly rather short-sighted. As has been proven with other persons who have been targeted, if it wasn't Quinn, it would be someone else.10/18/2014 - 6:26pm
Avalongod: I think that's part of what gives an esoteric news story like this real life...it taps into a larger narrative about misogyny in society outside of games.10/18/2014 - 3:29pm
Avalongod: @Monte, well the trolls made death threats that came to police (and media attention). I think this is tapping into a larger issue outside of games about how women are treated in society (like all the "real rape" stuff during the last election)10/18/2014 - 3:28pm
Monte: Seirously, If Quinn was not involved and GG was instead about something like the Mordor Marketing contracts, the trolling would have never grown so vile and disgusting. There have been plenty of movements in the past that never sufferred from behavior..10/18/2014 - 1:57pm
Monte: We have seen scandel's before but the trolling has never been as vile as what we see with GG. Trolls usually have such a tiny voice you can barely notice them, but its like moths to a flame whenever femistist are involved.10/18/2014 - 1:53pm
ZippyDSMlee: Wonderkarp: You might be able to if you had a PS4 controller.10/18/2014 - 1:00pm
MaskedPixelante: http://store.steampowered.com/app/327940/ Night Dive starts charging for freeware.10/18/2014 - 12:21pm
Matthew Wilson: the sad thing is there are trolls on both sides of this. people need to stop acting like their side is so pure.10/18/2014 - 12:19pm
MechaTama31: So, only speak out on a scandal that hasn't attracted trolls? I wouldn't hold my breath...10/18/2014 - 10:49am
Monte: I feel like GG just needs to die. The movement is FAR to tainted by hatred and BS for it to be useful for any conversation. Let GG die, and then rally behind the NEXT gaming journalism scandal, and start the conversation fresh.10/18/2014 - 10:33am
quiknkold: and we dont have a Dovakin to call a cease fire10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
quiknkold: The whole thing is Futile. Both sides are so buried deep in their trenchs that there isnt a conversation. Its just Finger Pointing, Name Calling, Doxxing, Threats. there needs to be a serious conversation, and GG isnt it.10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
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Re: More Than One-Hundred Hours?!?
Ok, I found the exaggeration here really weak. TO me anyone complaining has been spoiled too much by quick travel and auto saves.
Re: More Than One-Hundred Hours?!?
Nintendo is terrible; clearly any overworld travel in any of their games should be balls-to-the-wall action all of the time. They should have gotten Irem to make sailing in the Wind Waker in to a bullet hell shooter -- preferably with pixel perfect hitboxes. Then you'd never be bored roaming from dungeon to dungeon! IF MY ADRENALINE ISN'T PUMPING, I'M NOT HAVING FUN!
Wait -- no, wait, that's retarded. I can't be the only person who did not find the Wind Waker's sailing tedious. By the time it started to feel overly repetitive, they started dumping all sorts of hazards in the ocean, and then let you teleport around without much trouble. Sailing was not more boring to me than, say, running around on foot or horseback for hours in Twilight Princess, and Quick Travel is a terrible alternative since it removes a lot of that 'Adventure' component from a series built on... uh, adventure.
Re: More Than One-Hundred Hours?!?
I found the sailing pretty relaxing myself when I was able to just glide along the waves.
Re: More Than One-Hundred Hours?!?
Yeah, I actually found sailing to be fun, and even a bit overwhelming at the time (I was 13) because I never had so much liberty with where I could go explore.
Living in Canada is awesome. We enjoy the universal healthcare and gun-free environment of a European country while getting all of our games released at the same time as the US.
Re: More Than One-Hundred Hours?!?
Additonally, moreso with wind waker than twilight princess, the environments were so great that I always took way longer to get places as I explored all the little nooks, crannies, and islands. I enjoy the travel, and like a break between searching for keys.
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Re: More Than One-Hundred Hours?!?
Agreed. I find the sailing portion of Wind Waker to be quite fun and a good change of pace from normal dungeon crawling. I even got to the point that encounters with sharks and pirates frustrated me as I just wanted to sail around.
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