Entertainment Industry Discusses Copyright Issues at Association of American Publishers Meeting

March 14, 2012 -

At the Association of American Publishers annual meeting this morning, leaders from the MPAA, RIAA, AAP, Business Software Alliance and other groups got together to talk about what went wrong in their fight for SOPA and PIPA, and what the industry can do to get their points across in the future. PaidContent has a great rundown of some of the comments that were made during a panel discussion featuring AAP president and CEO Tom Allen, Business Software Alliance’s Robert Holleyman, and Recording Industry Association of America’s Cary Sherman.

"Our industries do something that no one else can do," the Motion Picture Association of America’s Fritz Attaway said during the 'Content Industries in Digital Transformation' panel. "We create content that people want to have."

"Among my friends in Congress, there is some alarm about what happened [surrounding SOPA and PIPA]," said Allen, a former Maine congressman (D). "The woman who replaced me in the first district of Maine got 800 e-mails in two days, every one of them opposed to the bills. How in this environment can our respective industries do more to defend the principles of copyright when we’re confronting this wave of the public that goes every day to the Internet and downloads and reads all sorts of stuff for free?"

While there was a lot of talk about collaborating or working with technology leaders, there was also plenty of hand wringing and chest pounding about the fight they lost to the Internet.

"Right doesn’t always prevail," Attaway said concerning the SOPA and PIPA fight online. "This time, it didn’t, because our opponents were able to energize a grassroots response. In my view, and I think all of us would agree, [the protest against SOPA and PIPA was spread] primarily through disinformation and spinning their interest in a way that captured the attention of a number of consumers."

The entertainment industry continues to insist that the protests were mobilized by technology leaders like Google and Facebook, despite the fact that thousands of organizations including the ECA and the EFF were on the front lines of the fight informing internet users about the legislation that was being pushed by lawmakers in the U.S.

"we’ve been rather successful in negotiating with ISPs and other best practices that help protect our content on [user-generated content] sites….I’m very optimistic about our future," added Attaway.

The head of the Business Software Alliance, who did not support SOPA or PIPA, had a different take:

"There was a tremendous amount of opposition and we can discuss how it was or wasn’t generated," Holleyman said. "Shared responsibility and working with other industries is going to be the best, and maybe the only, solution we have, at least for the next several years. I hope we can build a climate where the rhetoric can be lower."

The RIAA’s Cary Sherman, who has been vocal and often venomous about the SOPA and PIPA fights, hopes further copyright discussions will be more rational than those debates were.

"The digital tsunami we encountered with SOPA and PIPA—we’re not going to get the same kind of engagement when we talk about statutory damages or open works," he said. "We’ll have the opportunity for a more rational discussion. At the same time, I think we actually need to engage. We have criticized the other side for just saying no. We have an enormous piracy problem, and any solution we propose, they just say no. We [also] need to engage and not just say no."

Sherman also talked about the music industry’s new "Copyright Alert program," which will launch in the second quarter of this year. According to Sherman, the software searches through P2P sites for pirated content, then notifies ISPs, who in turn send notices to subscribers alerting them that they’ve been identified as "copyright infringers."

"Education is key," Attaway claims. "It is absolutely ridiculous that a movie that cost $100 million to create, a copy of which you paid $20 for, to say that you own that movie and should make any number of copies you want to. The intellectual base of the Copyleft is pretty flimsy, and we need to do a better job of pointing that out to the public. We need to do it from a grassroots base of the millions of people whose livelihoods depend on copyright protection. [Paying $20 for a movie] doesn’t mean you have the right to make all the copies you want and share them with all of your friends."

Source: PaidContent. Image Credit: Shutterstock.


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"In their fight against SOPA and PIPA"

I thought they were in support of SOPA and PIPA? It was the tech groups Wikipedia, Google, etc that were against it and won that battle.

-Mrxknown_JG-

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Alright, thanks. I was confused if they were changing their stance.

-Mrxknown_JG-

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I assume you all got the same email I did from Facebook and Google, instructing you to come here and destroy the livelihoods of these fine, upstanding citizens?  Oh wait, that's not at all what happened.  God, these guys are ridiculous.  I wonder, are they pretending to be this blind and stupid, or is it genuine?

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"Our industries do something that no one else can do,[...]We create content that people want to have."
Well, that's a load of self-aggrandizing horse-hockey.  Here's one example; here's another.  Both people who've achieved a significant degree of fame and fortune by releasing their work under such conditions that I can legally copy and distribute it as much as I want without paying them a cent.  I'm sure you folks can come up with more examples.

What I really find freakish is just how self-important these people are.  They've somehow managed to cast themselves as the first, last, and only line of defense standing in the way of a complete stagnation of cultural development and interaction.  Which, assuming that's the case, leads me to wonder how we even got this far.

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It's definitely quite clear that they want to portray themselves as the noble victims of a villainous mob of amoral thieves, rather than self-important cash hungry tyrants who are lost in the last age of technology.

And ultimately, the way they talk about the issues, I'm not certain if they know they're full of it, but every time I hear representatives of copyright yammer on, I can't help but imagine them trying to legislate gravity, or outlaw the automobile to preserve the noble travel traditions of the steam engine.

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"It is absolutely ridiculous that a movie that cost $100 million to create, a copy of which you paid $20 for, to say that you own that movie and should make any number of copies you want to."

Then raise your prices!

Either that, or cut the cost of making the movie.  Once someone buys something, they own it!

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"We create content that people want to have."

That pretty much avoids any question as to whether what they're creating is worth the cost being offered. Moreover, it insists that other people are incapable of creating content that is put at a higher value than what they get.

I could easily use this to insist that it shows evidence of an industry that makes no attempt to connect with its consumer base in order to provide quality entertainment or products.

But hell- we fucking knew that already, didn't we.

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If they, as they say, "create content that people want to have," why are there empty seats in movie theaters?

People don't watch movies anymore, just like people don't use buggy whips anymore.

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Indeed. That phrase also avoids any discussion that would foster any incentive to actually make something worth a damn. With Hollywood's pair shrinking to undetectable sizes, we're stuck with studios afraid to put big risks into original projects with great potential, instead content on funding boring cookie-cutter plots that have been done a million times over.

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Lying is so unseemly.

 

Andrew Eisen

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How do you know they're lying? Oh right, their lips are moving.

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How can anyone possibly have a problem with Copyleft?  And even if you do have a problem with it, the solution is simple: don't use it.

Morons.

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It creates competition, and locks content into a lisence that they have trouble controlling or locking behind thier own barriers.  Just look at the fights against OSS....  Their first line summed it up ""Our industries do something that no one else can do,"  with the problem plenty of other people CAN do it,.. what the RIAA/MPAA/BSA want to ensure is that no one else is allowed to do what they do.   Part of that is making sure that other distribution models are not allowed, or make sure they get a cut of other people's content (like SoundExchange, or the many abuses on  Youtube)... or set it up so they can continue to steal other people's material but small producers are locked out...

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Exactly.

 
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